Solitaire Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 You're bound to lose the reflexes you had when you were 20 ish, but you wouldn't expect yourself to be any less competitive. I'm sure MS still feels he can be competitive, coz if he doesn't, he'll not be there, racing at all. But it doesn't really show, does it? Maybe he made a mistake and is now still there trying to prove that he can still race among people a bit more than half his age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Maybe he made a mistake and is now still there trying to prove that he can still race among people a bit more than half his age. I hope he gets a podium this year, for his sake at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman™ Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 hamilton handed 20sec penalty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 hamilton handed 20sec penalty But still keeps his place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theneurotoxin Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I wouldn't call it "much" better when comparing him to someone who has nearly 16 years on him. Experience may be all well and good, but with age he's sure to lose some amount of reflexes atleast So basically what you are saying is he sucks and needs an extraordinary car to perform on par with the others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Very few of you actually know the history of F1 or have followed F1 racing since before the last decade, yet are happy to trumpet names like Senna and Prost and roast Hamilton. Not only that, but to pass judgment on Lewis' skill and temperament in the manner you are doing is just sad. How many of you have taken the time to watch Lewis' performances during his karting days? (There are plenty of youtube'd videos if you need to catch up). How many of you have seen even a single one of Lewis' GP2 races? How many of you were old enough or interested enough to track F1 during Ayrton Senna's career while it happened? (We didnt have live race feeds in India during that period, so I used to watch "The World This Week" hosted by Prannoy Roy to catch up). Lewis' actions are the reason McLaren did not win yesterday with Button and I'm miffed about that, but his performance made for a scintillating race, only partially matched by Alonso hounding Vettel during the last 20 laps. Compare the DiResta's collision with Alguesari with Hamilton's move on Massa. While DiResta's move was amateurish at best, climbing all over the kerb after Jaime had made the turn, it's very clear that Massa turned in after Hamilton had begun his move and before the apex. Compare Massa's line through the corner with the two cars ahead of him (Maldonado and Petrov IIRC) at the time of Lewis' move and its pretty clear that what Massa did was a reaction to seeing Lewis in his left mirror starting a move. I, unfortunately, missed Lewis' move on Maldonado, so I'll reserve judgement on that. While I'm not contesting the stewards' decision to award Lewis a drive through penalty for the Massa move, to see you clowns lambast him for that is disgusting. I'm not going to go through Lewis' past achievements. He certainly is a far more proven feisty racer that the current world champion and points leader and on par with Alonso in sheer determination and skill. No one gets to that level without having personality issues and quirks as demonstrated by a majority of past champions, the exceptions being Button and to some extent Villeneuve, both of whom had absolutely dominant cars during their championship winning years. Lewis is 26 years of age, already a world champion, fighting against a dominant competitor and having already suffered a couple of major strategy setbacks this season. You dont expect racers of his ilk to sit back and accept fate on any weekend. The comments some of you have made here only serve to shame yourselves. MT bhai, senti ho gaye aur kar bhi diya. I remember watching F1 races on DD (Metro) when Mika was at the peak of his career. And TV+newspapers the day news of Senna's death was published. Every era has its drivers and its competitions. The fact that plenty of constructors in the past few years have been competing heavily is a relief after the dull Ferrari dominant period. As for pitting drivers against one another, its been done throughout F1's history. And its nothing new. A couple of decades down the line, today's champions will be talked of like legends and drivers then will be considering bumbling idiots. It goes on and on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
achilles Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Okay what the hell is this 'forum' and how can I watch it on TV? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman™ Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Compare the DiResta's collision with Alguesari with Hamilton's move on Massa. While DiResta's move was amateurish at best, climbing all over the kerb after Jaime had made the turn, it's very clear that Massa turned in after Hamilton had begun his move and before the apex. Compare Massa's line through the corner with the two cars ahead of him (Maldonado and Petrov IIRC) at the time of Lewis' move and its pretty clear that what Massa did was a reaction to seeing Lewis in his left mirror starting a move. I, unfortunately, missed Lewis' move on Maldonado, so I'll reserve judgement on that. While I'm not contesting the stewards' decision to award Lewis a drive through penalty for the Massa move, to see you clowns lambast him for that is disgusting. You dont expect racers of his ilk to sit back and accept fate on any weekend. The comments some of you have made here only serve to shame yourselves. lewis shows up his aggresiveness wherever he wants and the mirabeau hairpin wasn't the one where he should have shown, when racing with a ferrari racer, where its obvious both the teams(mclaren and ferrari) fight for positions and for championship it wasn't fault hammy's fault but that hairpin isn't the place for safe overtaking slowest corner on the f1 calendar and you talking about massa blocking or turning inside while hammy was overtaking its obvious he would defend his position instead of letting hamilton an easy pass and the hamilton showed his stupidity again while passing pastor maldonado at st.devote ,that's a place to overtaking by getting side by side after the straight,and not ramming the rumble strips,cutting the chicanes and ruining the races for other drivers also .. and you talking about GP2 and go karts each f1 driver has a deep career in go karts hamilton ,there's no pecularity of hamilton most f1 drivers(fernando alonso,sebastein vettel,michael schumaccher,etc) have started their career with low budgets and financial crysis ,have struggled searching sponsors ,GP2 is where hamilton was before entering f1, whats in it ..?? he had a very good car over there too,so he won most of the races that season and he had nice luck to enter and race with mclaren because JP montoya had retired and kimi moved to ferrari otherwise you lewis fans would have seen him racing with midfield teams.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 So basically what you are saying is he sucks and needs an extraordinary car to perform on par with the others. Or that the extraordinary car is what is helping the others perform (apart from the age difference) as compared to his rust bucket. Alright so he really should either buck up by next season or sit it out. It's terrible watching him end up outside the top 6 all the time of late. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Okay what the hell is this 'forum' and how can I watch it on TV? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHGyYNgD_4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QVCSER02Z4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8OTzvWZilc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU9i4OkabEY&feature=related Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megzworld Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 You mean MT = ??? Gaurav, Stop fantacizing about my Alter-Ego on public forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted May 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 That's why I said Redbull celebs rock! If McLaren win, we'll see a red parade Redbull are a dimension to Formula one itself. Imagine a beverage company coming this far in motorsport, amazing The sole reason is Adrian Newey. Baldy's an absolute f**king genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megzworld Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 ‘In all honesty I will never stop racing the way I do. It’s the way I do it. That’s what got me here, it is the way I am. I don’t do it to offend people or to hurt anyone. I do it because I love racing. I feel like I can do it better than others. ‘I am here to race and win. If I have to lose that passion it would blow all the racing. If it ever comes to a stage where I had to pull back, drive for fourth or fifth place and just cruise around it would not excite me and I probably wouldn’t stay around for that.’ - Lewis Hamilton (After all the attack and penalties on him, last weekend at Monaco) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 The sole reason is Adrian Newey. Baldy's an absolute f**king genius. Yup......Great guy......but his team also deserves an equal amount of praise IMO (I mean the design team under Adrian). No one ever mentions them. BTW, check PM mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 The sole reason is Adrian Newey. Baldy's an absolute f**king genius. Baldy designed Senna's last car, survived the resulting court trial and still managed the strength to not let his engineering skills go to waste. Good man. btw, who all saw the latest Senna movie? I'm an hour into it and too choked up to continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megzworld Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Baldy designed Senna's last car, survived the resulting court trial and still managed the strength to not let his engineering skills go to waste. Good man. btw, who all saw the latest Senna movie? I'm an hour into it and too choked up to continue. Where can you download it from? I really want to watch it. Help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piper Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Where can you download it from? I really want to watch it. Help! I could only find the ahem ahem version. Enough footage of Senna to make me weep. I got the extended version, 2hr 42m long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 Sadly it's not releasing in theatres in India Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theneurotoxin Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 (edited) It had a limited release in the UK itself. Fat chance of it releasing here. Ever. In any case it is worth every byte of b/w spent. I would suggest watching the theatrical version first, the better pacing adds to the experience. (After all the attack and penalties on him, last weekend at Monaco) I see that you haven't quoted the rest of that story. Cheeky. Edited May 31, 2011 by ArtVandelay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devil_angel Posted May 31, 2011 Report Share Posted May 31, 2011 It had a limited release in the UK itself. Fat chance of it releasing here. Ever. In any case it is worth every byte of b/w spent. I would suggest watching the theatrical version first, the better pacing adds to the experience. where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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