The Formula 1 Thread

[AtheK]

2 hours ago, hsk_colossus said:

just chill dude..not everything is conspiracy to favour Hamilton…

Max is going to win this season, plenty of races left

Where In not everything is conspiracy theory, It's mind boggling how Ham finds himself always at an advantage. The guy should buy some lottery too.

[kruzzo]

I am not talking about conspiracy.
These situations only arise when Merc & HAM are against real competition.
Go back to the season where Rosberg won and the one before that, you'll find the same thing happening.
 
HAM & Merc didn't find their move against VER objectionable but they did find Alonso to be making "dangerous" moves at "dangerous" speeds.
 
If Ham can win without whining and Merc acting like they run the sport then great, he deserves it.

Haven't watched F1 in a while but watched some parts of the race and I noticed Hamilton whines a lot he couldn't overtake someone when he was in 13th place cry about it in the radio, couldn't get past Alonso whine again about dangerous driving.

[KunjanPSD]

1 hour ago, kruzzo said:

5 hours ago, KunjanPSD said:

I am not talking about conspiracy.
These situations only arise when Merc & HAM are against real competition.
Go back to the season where Rosberg won and the one before that, you'll find the same thing happening.
 
HAM & Merc didn't find their move against VER objectionable but they did find Alonso to be making "dangerous" moves at "dangerous" speeds.
 
If Ham can win without whining and Merc acting like they run the sport then great, he deserves it.

Haven't watched F1 in a while but watched some parts of the race and I noticed Hamilton whines a lot he couldn't overtake someone when he was in 13th place cry about it in the radio, couldn't get past Alonso whine again about dangerous driving.

Sun is yellow.

[KunjanPSD]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CSFOH4-CEDO/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

P10 doesn't look very bad.

[KunjanPSD]

 

[Walker]

2 hours ago, kruzzo said:

6 hours ago, KunjanPSD said:

I am not talking about conspiracy.
These situations only arise when Merc & HAM are against real competition.
Go back to the season where Rosberg won and the one before that, you'll find the same thing happening.
 
HAM & Merc didn't find their move against VER objectionable but they did find Alonso to be making "dangerous" moves at "dangerous" speeds.
 
If Ham can win without whining and Merc acting like they run the sport then great, he deserves it.

Haven't watched F1 in a while but watched some parts of the race and I noticed Hamilton whines a lot he couldn't overtake someone when he was in 13th place cry about it in the radio, couldn't get past Alonso whine again about dangerous driving.

Dude he whines about everything. Truly if whining equals winning he's got that in the bag 

[achilles]

4 hours ago, KunjanPSD said:

Sun is yellow.

Lol it’s not tho 

 

8 hours ago, AtheK said:

It's mind boggling how Ham finds himself always at an advantage.

Truly uncanny. Even with his altercations with Seb, it was uncanny how he’d be coming out better off every damn time. 
 

Edit to say nothing of picking Mercedes when he did, and look at how that turned out. 

Edited August 2, 2021 by achilles

[TRMNTR]

Being #1 does come with some perks and biases. It just feels more evident in F1.

[Vamos]

11 minutes ago, TRMNTR said:

Being #1 does come with some perks and biases. It just feels more evident in F1.

It is only natural that people dislike someone who wins all the time. 

Just like how they dislike Djokovic in tennis and look at everything he does through a microscope, Hamilton also faces a lot of unfair hatred and criticism. 

 

I am not a fan of Ham but the amount hate he gets totally overshadows his brilliant performances in every race. 

[TRMNTR]

 

16 minutes ago, Vamos said:

I am not a fan of Ham but the amount hate he gets totally overshadows his brilliant performances in every race. 

 

True. He's been doing exceptionally well. FIA feels a bit biased towards him though but that is normal and comes with the territory. There is politics in everything.

[TRMNTR]

On 8/2/2021 at 12:13 AM, KunjanPSD said:

Also it's high time that F1 needs to consider an update to the rules.

 

Even though it wasn't intentional but Bottas's crash will ultimately result in Perez taking an extra engine down the line as his current engine will most probably not be able to keep up after this crash, which will provide him with a 10 place grid penalty while Bottas gets slapped with a 5 place penalty.

 

Not fair.

The person who caused the accident should receive harder penalties.

 

This absolutely needs to happen next season. The rules are outdated and unfair.

[achilles]

53 minutes ago, Vamos said:

It is only natural that people dislike someone who wins all the time. 

Truly not. People adore winners. People love to follow winners. The most loved athletes of all time have always been winners. The best of their times. Federer, Jordan, Schumacher, Tendulkar, Jobs, Musk, Ali, Tyson to name a few. Some are adored for more than their just their victories, because of who they are, like Senna, Rafa, Kobe and Dhoni. The only winner to make a career out of being hated? Floyd Mayweather. But he actively cultivated that hate by playing the bad guy. 
Some athletes, for whatever reason, true or not, do not connect with the crowd. They appear inauthentic in interviews, on ground/track/field/court, and given enough time, people usually see through it. Serena Williams, Hamilton and Djokovic are exceptional winners, athletes, and performers. But they’re not adored like the other greats. They’re disliked because of who they are and despite their victories, don’t garner adulation. 

Edited August 3, 2021 by achilles

[scuderiaT1fos1]

17 minutes ago, achilles said:

Truly not. People adore winners. People love to follow winners. The most loved athletes of all time have always been winners. The best of their times. Federer, Jordan, Schumacher, Tendulkar, Jobs, Musk, Ali, Tyson to name a few. Some are adored for more than their just their victories, because of who they are, like Senna, Rafa, Kobe and Dhoni. The only winner to make a career out of being hated? Floyd Mayweather. But he actively cultivated that hate by playing the bad guy. 
Some athletes, for whatever reason, true or not, do not connect with the crowd. They appear inauthentic in interviews, on ground/track/field/court, and given enough time, people usually see through it. Serena Williams, Hamilton and Djokovic are exceptional winners, athletes, and performers. But they’re not adored like the other greats. They’re disliked because of who they are and despite their victories, don’t garner adulation. 

 

 

And then there is Kimi 

 

[Vamos]

19 minutes ago, achilles said:

Some athletes, for whatever reason, true or not, do not connect with the crowd. They appear inauthentic in interviews, on ground/track/field/court, and given enough time, people usually see through it. 

Agreed. It’s one of the reasons I don’t like Hamilton. And I presume that’s why he has this reputation of being arrogant.
 

But sometimes fans take it a bit too far... 

Just the other day, Djokovic was subjected to online attacks and trolling over a misinterpreted quote about Simone Biles. 
 

And Hamilton (also Serena) constantly face racism, hatred on social media. Just labeling it as a lack of adoration from fans just trivializes the issue. 
 

[Cash]

43 minutes ago, achilles said:

Truly not. People adore winners. People love to follow winners. The most loved athletes of all time have always been winners. The best of their times. Federer, Jordan, Schumacher, Tendulkar, Jobs, Musk, Ali, Tyson to name a few. Some are adored for more than their just their victories, because of who they are, like Senna, Rafa, Kobe and Dhoni. The only winner to make a career out of being hated? Floyd Mayweather. But he actively cultivated that hate by playing the bad guy. 
Some athletes, for whatever reason, true or not, do not connect with the crowd. They appear inauthentic in interviews, on ground/track/field/court, and given enough time, people usually see through it. Serena Williams, Hamilton and Djokovic are exceptional winners, athletes, and performers. But they’re not adored like the other greats. They’re disliked because of who they are and despite their victories, don’t garner adulation. 

This is it. Hamilton often comes out or feels like faking a lot which is probably why he is hated so much. Along with the dominance and the whining ofcourse. 

 

Either way you really can't say he isn't the GOAT in F1, M.Sc was a much dirtier driver than new viewers could probably believe.

[TRMNTR]

45 minutes ago, achilles said:

Truly not. People adore winners. People love to follow winners. The most loved athletes of all time have always been winners. The best of their times. Federer, Jordan, Schumacher, Tendulkar, Jobs, Musk, Ali, Tyson to name a few. Some are adored for more than their just their victories, because of who they are, like Senna, Rafa, Kobe and Dhoni. The only winner to make a career out of being hated? Floyd Mayweather. But he actively cultivated that hate by playing the bad guy. 
Some athletes, for whatever reason, true or not, do not connect with the crowd. They appear inauthentic in interviews, on ground/track/field/court, and given enough time, people usually see through it. Serena Williams, Hamilton and Djokovic are exceptional winners, athletes, and performers. But they’re not adored like the other greats. They’re disliked because of who they are and despite their victories, don’t garner adulation. 

 

Why u no include Rossi? 

 

PS - On a separate note, f**k Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Those assholes single-handedly (double?) ruined sports for me (for a while).

[KunjanPSD]

30 minutes ago, TRMNTR said:

 

Why u no include Rossi? 

 

PS - On a separate note, f**k Floyd Mayweather and Conor McGregor. Those assholes single-handedly (double?) ruined sports for me (for a while).

Rossi will always be the pinnacle of racing for me.

[KunjanPSD]

 

 

 

 

[TRMNTR]

2 minutes ago, KunjanPSD said:

Rossi will always be the pinnacle of racing for me.

 

[Walker]

I get the feeling that if Hamilton was in a Redbull, Verstappen was in a Merc, and Hamilton was leading the championship, it would be 100% luck, zero racecraft. As much as Ham whines, I find the Ham haters whine as much if not more than Ham himself.