akashkhannabond007 Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 the toughest circuit i think is monte carlo .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhav Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 the toughest circuit i think is monte carlo .... and by far.. the best! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted April 26, 2009 Report Share Posted April 26, 2009 and by far.. the best! +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) hi.. all. I dont hav much interest in F1 and dont follow it much, only time really actively took interest was whn Raikkonen won. anyway, can some one explain me how he hell is the new Brawn GP (honda remodled, right..??) along with the under achiever (of prev seasons) Jensen Button is suddenly beating everyone left, right and center..?? I mean wat the hell happend to the ferarries, mc'larens..?? the hamiltons, kimis, alonsos..?? Edited April 27, 2009 by Nemo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted April 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 hi.. all. I dont hav much interest in F1 and dont follow it much, only time really actively took interest was whn Raikkonen won. anyway, can some one explain me how he hell is the new Brawn GP (honda remodled, right..??) along with the under achiever (of prev seasons) Jensen Button is suddenly beating everyone left, right and center..?? I mean wat the hell happend to the ferarries, mc'larens..?? the hamiltons, kimis, alonsos..?? The FIA drastically changed the aerodynamic and car design rules for 2009. McLaren and Ferrari were busy fighting the 2008 championship till the very end while others like Honda gave up on 2008 very early in the season and shifted focus to working on a new car based on the 2009 rules. This situation meant that McLaren and Ferrari didnt have enough development time between the end of the 2008 season and the start of the 2009 season to fully understand and adapt to the 2009 regulations, while others like Honda/Brawn, Red Bull and Williams did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemo Posted April 28, 2009 Report Share Posted April 28, 2009 The FIA drastically changed the aerodynamic and car design rules for 2009. McLaren and Ferrari were busy fighting the 2008 championship till the very end while others like Honda gave up on 2008 very early in the season and shifted focus to working on a new car based on the 2009 rules. This situation meant that McLaren and Ferrari didnt have enough development time between the end of the 2008 season and the start of the 2009 season to fully understand and adapt to the 2009 regulations, while others like Honda/Brawn, Red Bull and Williams did. hmm.. Thanks for such a good explanations MT. this is another reason I dont like F1, too much reliance on tech than on human skill. but that is just IMO. for those who like the smell of burning rubber, more power to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zophar Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 this is another reason I dont like F1, too much reliance on tech than on human skill. but that is just IMO. that used to be the beauty of F1, it was the pinnacle of technology.. but now the focus seems to be on endurance/cost cutting enzo ferrari would have rolled over in his grave.. according to him all drivers were the same, a fixed 'constant', the only thing that won races was the car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) that used to be the beauty of F1, it was the pinnacle of technology.. but now the focus seems to be on endurance/cost cutting enzo ferrari would have rolled over in his grave.. according to him all drivers were the same, a fixed 'constant', the only thing that won races was the car +100 Its like Mark Hughes once said "The fastest driver in the slowest car would still be nowhere, whereas the slowest driver in the fastest car would be quite successful" Edited April 29, 2009 by Death Stryke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rad2689 Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 (edited) Three-race ban for McLaren Mercedes-McLaren have been handed a suspended three-race ban as the 'lie-gate' saga reached its conclusion on Wednesday. The team's pro-active approach in the run up to the extraordinary hearing of the World Motor Sport Council in Paris played its part in softening the blow as McLaren could have been more heavily penalised. However, the WMSC appear to have taken into account a number of mitigating circumstances after McLaren pleaded guilty on all five counts of breaching the International Sporting Code. Following the hearing a WMSC statement read: "Having regard to the open and honest way in which McLaren team principal, Mr Martin Whitmarsh, addressed the WMSC and the change in culture which he made clear has taken place in his organisation, the WMSC decided to suspend the application of the penalty it deems appropriate. "That penalty is a suspension of the team from three races of the FIA Formula One World Championship. This will only be applied if further facts emerge regarding the case or if, in the next 12 months, there is a further breach by the team of article 151 c of the International Sporting Code. As expected, reigning world champion Lewis Hamilton has avoided any further punishment after his disqualification from the Australian Grand Prix. Hamilton was initially promoted from fourth to third after the race stewards in Melbourne handed Jarno Trulli a 25-second penalty for passing the Briton behind the safety car. Hamilton and Dave Ryan, since sacked as McLaren sporting director, insisted at the time no order was relayed from the team demanding he allow Trulli to pass. However, evidence in the form of pit-to-car transmissions and an interview Hamilton gave immediately after the race contradicted their story, and resulted in the case being re-opened. Deciding they had been "deliberately misled", the stewards at the Malaysian Grand Prix disqualified Hamilton and McLaren from the classification. Ryan was soon suspended, whilst Hamilton humbly apologised for his actions in an unprecedented manner as he was allowed to use the FIA press conference room in Sepang where he also notably blamed Ryan. HELL YEAH!!!!! where's MT? WHERE IS MT? Edited April 29, 2009 by rad2689 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 he will be thinking how to somehow drag ferrari into this and put the entire balme on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Stryke Posted April 29, 2009 Report Share Posted April 29, 2009 ^ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zophar Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 looks like Ron Dennis has been made the scapegoat here.. "change in culture" .. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Karnage Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 McLaren got off easy At least now people can't complain that FIA is partial to Ferrari. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zophar Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 McLaren got off easy At least now people can't complain that FIA is partial to Ferrari. yeah i just had some coffee and re-read the article.. wtf suspended sentence so if all things remain the same, McLaren effectively walk away scot-free.. except the whole public fascade of 'firing' Ron Dennis.. what a load of bullsh*t and they say the world wears rosso-glasses oh well, at least it ensures a highly entertaining season continues along the same lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Three-race ban for McLaren HELL YEAH!!!!! where's MT? WHERE IS MT? I got the news update yesterday afternoon. Actually, I got to know what the sentence was gonna be on Monday itself... little birdies whispering and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 yeah i just had some coffee and re-read the article.. wtf suspended sentence so if all things remain the same, McLaren effectively walk away scot-free.. except the whole public fascade of 'firing' Ron Dennis.. what a load of bullsh* and they say the world wears rosso-glasses Compared to all the crap that Ferrari (and in its heyday, Benetton) have gotten away with over the decades, I'd say this was a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtheK Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 Compared to all the crap that Ferrari (and in its heyday, Benetton) have gotten away with over the decades, I'd say this was a no brainer. I told you all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarketTantrik Posted April 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 I told you all.... Yes. You told the truth. Good for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebody Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 F1 teams handed £40m budget cap Formula One budgets are set to decrease from next year Formula One teams will be encouraged to operate within a £40m budget cap from 2010 under new cost-cutting measures announced by governing body the FIA. Teams will have be free to chose whether to be governed by the cap but those that opt out face certain restrictions. Any team operating within the budget will be allowed to use movable front and rear wings and, crucially, an engine not subject to a rev limit. Those teams will also be allowed unlimited out-of-season track testing, with no restrictions on the scale and speed of wind-tunnel testing. The £40m figure will cover all team expenditure except: • Marketing and hospitality • Remuneration for test or race drivers, including any young driver programmes • Fines or penalties imposed by the FIA • Engine costs (for 2010 only, and specifically designed to retain the current manufacturers within the sport) • Any expenditure the team can demonstrate has no influence on its performance in the championship • Dividends paid from profits relating to participation in the championship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk.. Posted April 30, 2009 Report Share Posted April 30, 2009 race ban for McLaren ---> awesomenesssss \m/ yeahhhhhh A new Costs Commission will monitor and enforce the budget-cap regulations. Those teams accepting the cap will be able to run constantly adjustable wings, engines with no rev limit, more powerful KERS systems, and - in theory - four-wheel drive. They will also be allowed unlimited out-of-season track testing with no restrictions on the scale and speed of wind tunnel testing. Other 2010 changes for all teams include the expected ban on refueling and tyre warmers, and an increase in the minimum car weight from 605 to 620kg, a move designed to offset the disadvantage heavier drivers face when running KERS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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