PC Hardware Thread

[l33tmaniac]

Nvidia CEO Makes It Clear That High PC Graphics Card Prices Are Here To Stay

https://kotaku.com/pc-nvidia-rtx-4090-4080-gpu-card-prices-crypto-scalping-1849565648

 

 

[roun90]

3 hours ago, l33tmaniac said:

Nvidia CEO Makes It Clear That High PC Graphics Card Prices Are Here To Stay

https://kotaku.com/pc-nvidia-rtx-4090-4080-gpu-card-prices-crypto-scalping-1849565648

 

 

 

Don't worry. They will be here to stay until it sinks in for NVidia that Mining is dead. Once 1-2 gens of cards flops or AMD Market share increases, then the price will drop automatically.

 

As such there are not many games on PC that even require those cards. 1080 Ti is amazing if you want Non RTX and 3070 series if you want RTX (At 1440p Ultra/Extreme Graphics).

Edited September 22, 2022 by roun90

[0verlord]

14 minutes ago, roun90 said:

 

Don't worry. They will be here to stay until it sinks in for NVidia that Mining is dead. Once 1-2 gens of cards flops or AMD Market share increases, then the price will drop automatically.

 

As such there are not many games on PC that even require those cards. 1080 Ti is amazing if you want Non RTX and 3070 series if you want RTX (At 1440p Ultra/Extreme Graphics).

which card can do 1440p at 120fps minimum with ultra settings without RT?

[gecko89]

DLSS 3.0 being held behind 4000 cards, is it because 3000cards are hardware limited and not capable or they're just making it exclusive to push more 4000 cards? 

[l33tmaniac]

1 hour ago, roun90 said:

 

Don't worry. They will be here to stay until it sinks in for NVidia that Mining is dead. Once 1-2 gens of cards flops or AMD Market share increases, then the price will drop automatically.

 

As such there are not many games on PC that even require those cards. 1080 Ti is amazing if you want Non RTX and 3070 series if you want RTX (At 1440p Ultra/Extreme Graphics).

 

I agree. But they are going to stay put to see how far they can hold out before giving in to pressure. The pricing of 40 series is atrocious and they still haven't officially dropped the prices of the 30 series yet. 

[dylanjosh]

30 series prices have dropped in US markets. But not here 

[0verlord]

The legendary 4080 12gb = 4060ti 

 

 

[roun90]

5 hours ago, 0verlord said:

which card can do 1440p at 120fps minimum with ultra settings without RT?

 

The rule of thumb I follow is 4k 60 fps = 1440p 120 fps. So if you want 1440p 120 fps all Ultra on very high graphics games with questionable optimization like Cyberpunk 2077 - you will need a 3080 (or 3090 if you want to be 100% sure). Note: This is Non-RTX. RTX will kill FPS. DLSS might help. But from my experience on CP2077 even DLSS does not give full 120 fps in free roam on crowded Night City.

 

Note: I took CP 2077 because it is very system intensive to the point even a 3070ti cannot do 120 fps on Non-RTX Ultra. So I took in 3080 which is far more powerful than a 3070ti. This is since you wanted surety. For most of the games, I think even a 2070/3070/3060 ti might suffice for 120 fps. 

Edited September 22, 2022 by roun90

[PhantomShade]

5 hours ago, 0verlord said:

which card can do 1440p at 120fps minimum with ultra settings without RT?

 

Depends what games you are talking about, not every game is like RDR2 or Cyberpunk 2077( don't know about other intensive games )

[SRINI87]

Currently Dying light 2 , MS Flight simulator and Cyberpunk are the most intensive games.

other than that 6800XT and 3080 should be good  for 1440P @ 120fps +

[dylanjosh]

6800XT is a good option but make sure your cpu is good too if you're targetting 120 fps 

 

 

Edited September 22, 2022 by dylanjosh

[SRINI87]

 

 

[SRINI87]

This is kinda interesting

4090 when DLSS 3.0 is enabled consumes less power

and also operates at lower temperature

 

Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra Quality + Psycho RT (Native 1440p):

MSI RTX 3090 TI SUPRIM X (Stock Native 1440p) - 37 FPS / 455W Power / ~75C

NVIDIA RTX 4090 FE (Stock Native 1440p) - 60 FPS / 461W Power / ~55C

RTX 4090 vs RTX 3090 Ti = +62% Faster

 

Cyberpunk 2077 Ultra Quality + Psycho RT (DLSS 1440p):

MSI RTX 3090 Ti SUPRIM X (DLSS 2 1440p) - 61 FPS / 409W Power / 74C

NVIDIA RTX 4090 FE (DLSS 3 1440p) - 170 FPS / 348W Power / ~50C

RTX 4090 vs RTX 3090 Ti = +178% Faster

[Snake]

I'll be sticking to 1080 as I usually play very little on PC, wonder what's a good GPU to pair up with my 5600x

[dylanjosh]

28 minutes ago, Snake said:

I'll be sticking to 1080 as I usually play very little on PC, wonder what's a good GPU to pair up with my 5600x

 

3060 / 3060ti

 

3070 if you want to play ultra + full rtx 

[Snake]

29 minutes ago, dylanjosh said:

 

3060 / 3060ti

 

3070 if you want to play ultra + full rtx 

Thought so, plus it wont cost a pretty penny. 

[dylanjosh]

 

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[SRINI87]

Intel Arc A770 Graphics Card Launching On October 12th, A770 MSRP Will Be $329

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-a770-and-a750-graphics-cards-landing-in-shelves-on-october-12th/

 

performance between 3060ti  and 3070 for the price of 3060

[dylanjosh]

5 minutes ago, SRINI87 said:

Intel Arc A770 Graphics Card Launching On October 12th, A770 MSRP Will Be $329

 

https://wccftech.com/intel-arc-a770-and-a750-graphics-cards-landing-in-shelves-on-october-12th/

 

performance between 3060ti  and 3070 for the price of 3060

 

 

First GPU will have tons of driver issues 

[SRINI87]