PC Hardware Thread

[ALPHA17]

How is risk vs reward for Amazon global import

 

Amazon will ship you the card alright but no after-sales support for the majority of the brands.

[kemosabe]

 

Amazon will ship you the card alright but no after-sales support for the majority of the brands.

 

what about customs if any ?

[SRINI87]

No tITAN X Pascal in india?

[ALPHA17]

what about customs if any ?

 

Go on Amazon India and look up the particular graphic card you want.

 

Import versions have customs covered but delivery charges apply.

 

GTX1050 / GTX1050Ti reviews

Guru3D (MSi Gaming X Edition)

 

 

Now the 1050 2GB I am not a fan of, but that is a personal opinion as really I am rather spoiled with fast graphics cards. For 99 USD you can purchase it, but you will run into limitations quickly and often requiring you to lower image quality settings or your resolution, and I do think that 1080P gaming is the norm anno 2016. Other than that it is a perfect card for simpler games like Dota and the like, it's also a perfect card for a work PC or HT and/or Internet PC. The better card obviously is the 139 USD / 155 EURO GeForce GTX 1050 Ti. It has a little more power under the hood and the 4GB of graphics memory really helps it out dealing with more crispy textures and, well, PC gaming the way it is meant to be played really (no pun intended). Both 1050 cards tweaked quite well, we however predict (once again) that any and all cards can achieve a stable ~1.9 GHz boost clock frequency. With the graphics memory you should be reaching 8 Gbps (effective data-rate) quite easily. Hey, for the bigger part Nvidia is in control of your tweak, not you. MSI offers lovely and well designed cards with a proper silent cooler. If you can spot them for the right price, these cards can be little gems for your entry level gaming purpose and both could offer good value in a cool looking yet silent package in that 99 to 139 USD domain. If you are on such a strict budget, please do opt for a 4GB version. The price certainly is right for what these cards bring to the table combined with casual gaming. For the more serious PC gaming we recommend a Radeon RX 470 4GB or GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (or something better).

 

Tom's Hardware

 

Nvidia is adding two new Pascal-based cards to its portfolio—one looks like a winner and the other...well, not so much.

 

The GeForce GTX 1050 employs the company’s GP107 processor with one of its six SMs disabled. The 640-core GPU operates at a base frequency of 1354 MHz and is complemented by 2 GB of GDDR5 at 7 GT/s. In the DirectX 12 games where AMD’s architecture typically shines, Nvidia manages to hold off the Radeon RX 460 4 GB. In DirectX 11-based titles, it’s quite a bit faster. Only one benchmark—Doom—puts the Radeon on top, and then only by a hair. GeForce GTX 1050 Ti wields a complete GP107 with all 768 of its CUDA cores enabled and 4 GB of GDDR5 memory. There’s no doubt it’s faster than the vanilla 1050; we’re just not sure the difference is worth $30 more.

 

The narrow gap between 1050 and 1050 Ti is due at least in part to Nvidia’s 75 W ceiling on both cards. Fitting the 1050 Ti in under that threshold requires lower clock rates, whereas the 1050 spins up a little more freely. Board partners who add a six-pin power connector and exceed the official TDP have plenty of room to overclock and hit more aggressive frequencies. The MSI GeForce GTX 1050 Ti Gaming X 4 GB our German team tested is a perfect example; it ran stably at 1900 MHz.

 

Digital Foundry

 

Brutally efficient and highly frugal, the GTX 1050 Ti is a clear winner in its £140/$140 price category, easily outclassing both of the factory overclocked RX 460 4GB models we were sent for testing. What Nvidia has managed to extract from the minuscule 75W offered by the motherboard PCI Express power line is quite remarkable, and as a simple plug-and-go replacement for lower-end desktop PCs, there's nothing on the market quite like it. More remarkable still is that it even has a fair amount of overclocking headroom - and higher-end models that do have the PCI Express power input should easily hit and exceed 2GHz, something we look forward to testing. However, in terms of price vs performance, it's hard to ignore the charms of the most expensive cards. An additional 35 per cent cash outlay gets you upwards of 60 per cent more performance in the form of the GTX 1060 3GB (albeit with a memory downgrade), while AMD is also aiming to cut prices on the four gig RX 470. It's not as fast as its Nvidia competitor, but provided you have a decent i5 processor or better, it will provide a noticeable higher level of performance.

 

Overall then, GTX 1050 Ti is a solid performer with much to commend it. As long as a dual-slot, full height PCI Express port is available, it should plug into any desktop PC regardless of power supply - and in that respect, it offers by far the best performance available in that class of hardware. Pay more and you'll get more, but in terms of its market category, GTX 1050 Ti is in a class of its own.

 

 

TL: DR, great cards if they match their MSRP. If you want more performance, skip to a RX470 or GTX1060 3GB.

Edited October 25, 2016 by ALPHA17

[mohit9206]

1050 2gb pretty much as fast as 960 is amazing. Completely kills rx460.

Rx460 will need to drop to 8k or less to compensate for the performance deficit compared to 1050 2gb.

1050ti has no competition under 14k. RX470 is atleast 4k more expensive so there is no overlap. All depends on your budget.

[CarbonCore]

 

what about customs if any ?

 

They add straight 30% to actual cost as customs deposit. If customs charge more they pay from their pocket, if they charge less you get a refund in couple of months.

 

Its cheaper to buy local because you save on shipping, get warranty and actually get it cheaper overall. Amazon import is only good for stuff that isn't available locally.

[mohit9206]

for as per the list, GTX 1070 is the best gpu to buy right now (Indian price - not considering direct import) ? If price come down to 25k - GTX 1070 should be a no brainier

It will drop to 30k when next year's models come out but then those new models will be faster, more efficient and almost same price. So its a never ending cycle. I mean look at all these 970s selling for under 20k but not worth buying as better cards available for same price.

Personally i think 1060 6GB is best card. Zotac Mini 6GB for 21k is a steal.

[kemosabe]

 

They add straight 30% to actual cost as customs deposit. If customs charge more they pay from their pocket, if they charge less you get a refund in couple of months.

 

Its cheaper to buy local because you save on shipping, get warranty and actually get it cheaper overall. Amazon import is only good for stuff that isn't available locally.

 

thanks for the detailed info.

 

It will drop to 30k when next year's models come out but then those new models will be faster, more efficient and almost same price. So its a never ending cycle. I mean look at all these 970s selling for under 20k but not worth buying as better cards available for same price.

Personally i think 1060 6GB is best card. Zotac Mini 6GB for 21k is a steal.

 

thanks

[ALPHA17]

1050ti has no competition under 14k. RX470 is atleast 4k more expensive so there is no overlap. All depends on your budget.

 

The RX470 4GB stock models are available for ~15500/- upwards. At that price differential, the RX470 is a superior card unless you do not want the added 6-pin power connector.

Personally i think 1060 6GB is best card. Zotac Mini 6GB for 21k is a steal.

 

That card will throttle, no point skimming on the cooling.

Edited October 26, 2016 by ALPHA17

[mohit9206]

 

The RX470 4GB stock models are available for ~15500/- upwards. At that price differential, the RX470 is a superior card unless you do not want the added 6-pin power connector.

 

That card will throttle, no point skimming on the cooling.

You mean throttle due to indian hot weather? Won't most people have AC in their rooms?

[i_rock098]

You mean throttle due to indian hot weather? Won't most people have AC in their rooms?

The Zotac mini and the EVGA gaming one (non superclocked) have the worst cooling among the gtx 1060 cards. They just have a aluminum heatsink pasted on top with a single fan, not a single copper pipe.

 

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[mohit9206]

The Zotac mini and the EVGA gaming one (non superclocked) have the worst cooling among the gtx 1060 cards. They just have a aluminum heatsink pasted on top with a single fan, not a single copper pipe.

 

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I don't think a lot of cooling is required for a 120W card even less for the 75W 1050Ti.

Also all the user reviews I've read none have complained about thermal throttling only a little extra noise.

These mini cards are almost universally praised, yet to see a negative review.

Great for compact cases where 10 inch cards won't fit.

And finally the price difference is large (21 vs 24k) for price sensitive indian market.

Zotac Amp edition is great if you can afford it but those with strict 20k budget this is the best card with 5 years warranty.

[i_rock098]

I don't think a lot of cooling is required for a 120W card even less for the 75W 1050Ti.

Also all the user reviews I've read none have complained about thermal throttling only a little extra noise.

These mini cards are almost universally praised, yet to see a negative review.

Great for compact cases where 10 inch cards won't fit.

And finally the price difference is large (21 vs 24k) for price sensitive indian market.

Zotac Amp edition is great if you can afford it but those with strict 20k budget this is the best card with 5 years warranty.

 

In my opinion getting a gtx 1060 3gb would be far superior if one needs best bang for buck especially the Galax one that is available for 16.8k

 

For strict 6gb models I would say it would be better to pay 1k more and get a proper dual fan version, there are several options available like Gainward, Galax, MSI OC, Palit all at the 22kish mark all have dual fans with proper copper heatpipes

 

Not necessary to go for the Zotac Amp edition.

 

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Edited October 26, 2016 by i_rock098

[goDofWar_skr]

IMO the 1050ti is ideally targeted for those people buying their first GPU.. Not at all to be considered as an upgrade card..

[Sach4life]

I don't think a lot of cooling is required for a 120W card even less for the 75W 1050Ti.

Also all the user reviews I've read none have complained about thermal throttling only a little extra noise.

These mini cards are almost universally praised, yet to see a negative review.

Great for compact cases where 10 inch cards won't fit.

And finally the price difference is large (21 vs 24k) for price sensitive indian market.

Zotac Amp edition is great if you can afford it but those with strict 20k budget this is the best card with 5 years warranty.

3k is not at all a large difference considering the product and the time one would usually use the product.

[ALPHA17]

You mean throttle due to indian hot weather? Won't most people have AC in their rooms?

 

No, not all people have A/C's man. I do not, I would not be quick to assume either of the possibilities.

 

Also, these single fan cards were the only GPU's to exhibit high temperatures and even throttling in reviews, in the west. Even linked a review with the same, the eVGA single fan edition even performs worse than the Founder's Edition variant.

I don't think a lot of cooling is required for a 120W card even less for the 75W 1050Ti.

Also all the user reviews I've read none have complained about thermal throttling only a little extra noise.

These mini cards are almost universally praised, yet to see a negative review.

Great for compact cases where 10 inch cards won't fit.

And finally the price difference is large (21 vs 24k) for price sensitive indian market.

Zotac Amp edition is great if you can afford it but those with strict 20k budget this is the best card with 5 years warranty.

 

Most people who have great experiences, do not complain.

 

Maybe read links posted by others or go through videos on the same.

~80°C over-clocked in a cool environment, yeah! Not great when Ambar's AMP! Extreme is not going over ~65°C here. Guess which one will boost more consistently.

 

No one is even concerned about the GTX1050Ti wonder why you bring that up but using your point. Since the GPU does not have a bespoke power connector to draw power through or a beefy cooler, the hotter it runs, the worse its boost plus smaller room for stable over-clocking if any.

 

Had the pleasure to go to Nehru Place and picked up a RX480.

 

IMO the 1050ti is ideally targeted for those people buying their first GPU.. Not at all to be considered as an upgrade card..

 

People who require a small portable and not too power hungry machine.

 

Gamers who only want to play competitive titles or of lower fidelity / older games.

 

The card is marketable to a wide variety of potential PC users.

IMO the 1050ti is ideally targeted for those people buying their first GPU.. Not at all to be considered as an upgrade card..

 

People who require a small portable and not too power hungry machine.

 

Gamers who only want to play competitive titles or of lower fidelity / older games.

 

The card is marketable to a wide variety of potential PC users.

Edited October 26, 2016 by ALPHA17

[Nr.Draca47]

 

 

 

Had the pleasure to go to Nehru Place and picked up a RX480.

Abe leliya card. Most likely you bought is yester. Chal aa toh kuch khele. [emoji1]

[mohit9206]

Everyone deserves great gaming. That’s why we created the fast, powerful ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1050 Mini. Now you can turn your PC into a true gaming rig, powered by NVIDIA Pascal™--the most advanced GPU architecture ever created. It’s loaded with innovative NVIDIA Game Ready technologies that let every gamer experience the latest titles in their full glory in super compact form.

Love the marketing. So you see no one needs a 1080. A cheap 1050 lets you experience the latest games in full glory.

[goDofWar_skr]

~80°C over-clocked in a cool environment, yeah! Not great when Ambar's AMP! Extreme is not going over ~65°C here. Guess which one will boost more consistently.

 

 

Not sure about EVGA, but one of my friends owns the zotac mini 1060 6gb edition and it does not go over 75C at any point in a non air-conditioned room..

If you set custom fan profile, then it never crosses 70C..

Although I have advised him to use auto fan profile in order to improve the life span of the only fan on the GPU..

[ALPHA17]

If you set custom fan profile, then it never crosses 70C..

Although I have advised him to use auto fan profile in order to improve the life span of the only fan on the GPU..

 

So there is already a ▲ of at-least ~5°C between that and the AMP! Extreme dual fan cooler.

Love the marketing. So you see no one needs a 1080. A cheap 1050 lets you experience the latest games in full glory.

 

Same crowd was livid when the RX480 could not match a GTX1070.