Right Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 SteamOS gaming performance lags behind Windows 10 Source: ArsTechnica via PCGamer I never thought you would post it here It was writing on the wall, from the day it was announced. Valve was chasing a mirage just to spite MS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 I never thought you would post it here It was writing on the wall, from the day it was announced. Valve was chasing a mirage just to spite MS. Yeah! I do not go around behind corners trying to hide information that does not suit me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 17, 2015 Report Share Posted November 17, 2015 SteamCONTROLLER: Review in Progress I have no doubt that some diehard PC gamers will put in tons of time customizing Steam Controller profiles, practicing, and becoming much more accurate than they ever would be with gamepad aiming. But the best you’re ever going to get is almost as good as a mouse, and I think games designed for an Xbox or PlayStation pad will still play better with the native hardware. Spending hours trying out the Steam Controller in the living room, I realized that don’t see much reason to make that compromise. There are very few PC games without controller support that I really want to play on my TV. When I tried, I mostly ended up just missing my mouse. Source: PCGamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Yeah! I do not go around behind corners trying to hide information that does not suit me. Valve should wipe this sh*t up asap. Put all the energies to make gaming better on Windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbreezester Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Valve should wipe this sh*t up asap. Put all the energies to make gaming better on Windows. Its always better to have alternatives(not a good one ATM) but still I prefer they keep working to improve linux as a gaming platform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 And achieve what? Why not improve on Windows, to which they owe every single penny they earned or Mac which has second biggest installbase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbreezester Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 And achieve what? Why not improve on Windows, to which they owe every single penny they earned or Mac which has second biggest installbase. the reason is monopoly .. Windows should not become the be all end all of PC gaming .. What if M$ starts charging royalty from developers for shipping games for Windows . A good alternative is always necessary . I think Steam sensed something like this with Windows 8 and their marketplace. Hence the serious push for Linux as a platform.. As long as someone is working on this, M$ won't make any serious move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbreezester Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Platform providers always get the itch if someone is making a lot of money by deploying services on them ... Same is the case with telecom operators.. Edited November 18, 2015 by coolbreezester Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maxwell card owners,Do you get these issues? https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/ i do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Maxwell card owners,Do you get these issues? https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/831430/pixelated-shadows-texture-popins-gtx-960-970-980-ect-/ i do This issue has been there since day one in GTAV....haven't noticed it in the other games if I remember correctly, but I have experienced the same issue on PS4 version as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 This issue has been there since day one in GTAV....haven't noticed it in the other games if I remember correctly, but I have experienced the same issue on PS4 version as well! Its most noticable like you said in GTAV and Fallout 4.Even i noticed same issues on PS4,but brushed it off considering its a console,PS4 kaha GTX 970 kaha. after 92 pages of that thread there is no fix and no conclusion as to why this happens. Fck you Nvidia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Why not improve on Windows, to which they owe every single penny they earned or Mac which has second biggest installbase. Because they cannot improve on Windows, it is under Microsoft. So if Microsoft wants the OS to go a certain way they will have to conform. And development for Mac happens at about the same pace as Linux ports of games, so no point trying to chase that phantom audience down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Pain Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Its most noticable like you said in GTAV and Fallout 4.Even i noticed same issues on PS4,but brushed it off considering its a console,PS4 kaha GTX 970 kaha. after 92 pages of that thread there is no fix and no conclusion as to why this happens. Fck you Nvidia. What about AMD cards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 What about AMD cards? i think its only limited to maxwell cards.Nvidia seems to not give one crap about this issue,and the users have learnt to "deal with it" so to say.I cant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 the reason is monopoly .. Windows should not become the be all end all of PC gaming .. What if M$ starts charging royalty from developers for shipping games for Windows . A good alternative is always necessary . I think Steam sensed something like this with Windows 8 and their marketplace. Hence the serious push for Linux as a platform.. As long as someone is working on this, M$ won't make any serious move Well M$ makes nothing out of PC gaming but $team makes f**kton.If there is any monopoly it is that of steam's and with many players coming in, its going off slowly. #2. Its very very unlikely that MS can ever demand royalties from devs, for publishing games beyond the MS controlled marketplace. They would be sued royally and kind of bad name they gonna get will take generations to clear. In a super super remote chance if MS makes such aa foolish move, I don't think it would be significant that it will lead to hikes in prices. In fact, Steam which gets 30% cut from game sales should share a part of it with MS. It would improve ecosystem and MS will be more proactive on PC gaming side. Finally, everyone in this world knows, Linux is not made for desktop computing, it has no chance of ever getting even 10% of MS marketshare in that space. So why bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 18, 2015 Report Share Posted November 18, 2015 Well M$ makes nothing out of PC gaming but $team makes f**kton. If there is any monopoly it is that of steam's and with many players coming in, its going off slowly. Well, Microsoft could have got the jump if they had not decided to abandon the PC market in favour of a console. Then obviously instead of introducing some wonderful store front we got the awful, awful Games For Windows Live followed up by the App Store which obviously no would want to use but hey, we lost our way with PC gaming, proceed to do nothing is much easier to get on with it. Its very very unlikely that MS can ever demand royalties from devs, for publishing games beyond the MS controlled marketplace. They would be sued royally and kind of bad name they gonna get will take generations to clear. In a super super remote chance if MS makes such aa foolish move, I don't think it would be significant that it will lead to hikes in prices. In fact, Steam which gets 30% cut from game sales should share a part of it with MS. It would improve ecosystem and MS will be more proactive on PC gaming side. Finally, everyone in this world knows, Linux is not made for desktop computing, it has no chance of ever getting even 10% of MS marketshare in that space. So why bother? Why should VALVe share anything with Microsoft? Did they get any help from them? Did they support VALVe for any project? Has Microsoft done anything for the PC gaming community apart from offering lip-service? No, then why should anyone be entitled to a cut, oh because they use the platform. This is the same stupid logic that Facebook wants to ingrain in people with its Internet.org system. Use the internet, our internet because, free. The only reason anyone uses the Microsoft OS is because of innate familiarity that is foisted on one not because there is a plethora of choices in this arena. And where did you get that Linux is not meant for desktop computing, the same place which told you that XBox ONE would be a rousing success? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well, Microsoft could have got the jump if they had not decided to abandon the PC market in favour of a console. Ha. GWFL stood no chance, PC gamers are so brainwashed that they won't give it 10% of time they gave to steam. Then obviously instead of introducing some wonderful store front we got the awful, awful Games For Windows Live followed up by the App Store which obviously no would want to use but hey, we lost our way with PC gaming, proceed to do nothing is much easier to get on with it. Apo store is way to go. If it doesn't work today, MS must find a way to make it work. Why should VALVe share anything with Microsoft? Did they get any help from them? Did they support VALVe for any project? Has Microsoft done anything for the PC gaming community apart from offering lip-service? No, then why should anyone be entitled to a cut, oh because they use the platform. This is the same stupid logic that Facebook wants to ingrain in people with its Internet.org system. Use the internet, our internet because, free. Why Valve should get Dalali of 30% for selling games? The only reason anyone uses the Microsoft OS is because of innate familiarity that is foisted on one not because there is a plethora of choices in this arena. And where did you get that Linux is not meant for desktop computing, the same place which told you that XBox ONE would be a rousing success? I'm sure even with utter failure of Xbox one, it would contribute more to gaming economy that PC could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Losing steam? PC partners avoid Steam Machines as testing shows poor performance vs. Windows http://www.pcworld.com/article/3006148/software-games/losing-steam-pc-partners-avoid-steam-machines-as-testing-shows-poor-performance-vs-windows.html --- Point and laugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 21, 2015 Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 Ha. GWFL stood no chance, PC gamers are so brainwashed that they won't give it 10% of time they gave to steam. Because it was a useless software that was down half the time, ran much worse than STEAM (and this is STEAM almost a decade back). Had a tiny coterie of games that no one wanted to wrestle with the software to get to run. Apo store is way to go. If it doesn't work today, MS must find a way to make it work. Still waiting for them to release their subscription numbers for the PC app store are you. Why Valve should get Dalali of 30% for selling games? Have you used STEAM, in lets say the past three years? Use it now, weep some tears that localised game pricing has been implemented. But hey, that would mean swallowing the humble pie and trying something instead of just standing, LoL STEAM, LoL PC Gaming. I'm sure even with utter failure of Xbox one, it would contribute more to gaming economy that PC could. Let me know when you have something constructive to contribute in this thread. If you cannot, please leave. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harjas Posted November 21, 2015 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) +1 with what alpha said in last para Edited November 21, 2015 by harjas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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