The PC Gaming Thread

[PhantomShade]

5 hours ago, WhiteWolf said:

AMD ryzen better for games now? which mother board combo will work best with it?

 

also suggest good airflow cabinet

 

Only for some multi core-wh*re games like Asscreed in Greece, Asscreed in Egypt, Metro Exodus etc.

 

if you can wait for 4-5 months intel will release i5 10600 series which will have same 6 core/12 threads as the current ryzens.

 

one issue with ryzens is there are no integrated GPUs, so if your graphics card dies you won't get display of any kind on your monitor

[PhantomShade]

On 12/22/2019 at 4:29 PM, HEMAN said:

Nope 970 doesn't cut it anymore. Even a 6700k will drops frames in cpu heavy games like some AC games. I use 6700k stock it does drop frames like some titles. 

 

second this guy, 970's 3.5gb VRAM meme is very apparent in 2019/20 games.

It may have the grunt power of today's 1660 ti/ Super, but the vram is bottleneck of sorts

[KunjanPSD]

38 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Only for some multi core-wh*re games like Asscreed in Greece, Asscreed in Egypt, Metro Exodus etc.

 

if you can wait for 4-5 months intel will release i5 10600 series which will have same 6 core/12 threads as the current ryzens.

 

one issue with ryzens is there are no integrated GPUs, so if your graphics card dies you won't get display of any kind on your monitor

This doesn't make sense, this way he can wait another 4-5 months on top of it and get Ryzen Gen 4. There is a reason why reviewers don't utilise future claims. 

Again, Ryzen not having integrated gpu in case your gpu dies is a very small subset of scenarios. Acc. to this logic no one should buy Ryzen.

Ryzen over Intel if anyone wanna build a multi purpose rig today.

[l33tmaniac]

2 hours ago, kunjanp said:

This doesn't make sense, this way he can wait another 4-5 months on top of it and get Ryzen Gen 4. There is a reason why reviewers don't utilise future claims. 

Again, Ryzen not having integrated gpu in case your gpu dies is a very small subset of scenarios. Acc. to this logic no one should buy Ryzen.

Ryzen over Intel if anyone wanna build a multi purpose rig today.

 

Second you on this. All this jazz about Intel being better at gaming becomes relevant only if you remove CPU bottlenecks completely using a top of the line GPU and if you game at high frame rates. Right now, Ryzen offers tremendous value for money and the marginal performance difference really isn't worth the added cost (Intel MBs are notoriously expensive and require you to use the latest chipset like Z390 with the 9 series. I guess the 10 series will follow suit). 

 

Gaming for Intel holds true if you have the budget for a high framerate rig. Mostly for at competitive gamers or for folks who want the absolute best and for whom cost is no bar

Edited January 4, 2020 by l33tmaniac

[HEMAN]

A good rule while Building PC is getting the best parts you can within your budget and also sometimes spending just a bit more to get something better. 

[SRINI87]

NVIDIA announces world’s first 360Hz G-Sync Monitors

 

At CES 2020, NVIDIA announced the world’s first 360Hz monitors. These monitors target eSports gamers and will support NVIDIA’s G-Sync technology. Furthermore, they will be 24.5 inches and will have a native 1080p resolution.

 

 

https://www.dsogaming.com/news/nvidia-announces-worlds-first-360hz-g-sync-monitors/

[Aftrunner]

On 1/4/2020 at 3:15 AM, WhiteWolf said:

its upgrade time, psu dying

 

Guys, suggest me a cpu, good and reliable psu and mobo and 16gb ram and a gpu.. Budget around 50k. 1080p60fps gaming.

 

@Joe Cool @ALPHA17

 

Pre built PCs are pretty cheap these days. You can get a good gaming PC for around 20k. 

 

https://bit.ly/35vVsai

 

You can even get a controller and some games for free. 

[Heaven Angel]

 

Edited January 7, 2020 by Heaven Angel

[Heaven Angel]

Intel Teases DG1 Discrete Xe GPU with laptop & desktop dev Cards at CES 2020

 

 

 

 

[goDofWar_skr]

Looks more like an upgraded IGPU instead of a discrete GPU.. 
From the footage doesn't seem like it was even capable of running Destiny 2 at 60 fps..

[l33tmaniac]

On 1/10/2020 at 1:13 PM, goDofWar_skr said:

Looks more like an upgraded IGPU instead of a discrete GPU.. 
From the footage doesn't seem like it was even capable of running Destiny 2 at 60 fps..

You are partly right I guess. This is supposed to be for laptops and is being sent to devs in a pci-e card form factor

[Heaven Angel]

 

[PhantomShade]

On 1/4/2020 at 11:36 PM, l33tmaniac said:

 

Second you on this. All this jazz about Intel being better at gaming becomes relevant only if you remove CPU bottlenecks completely using a top of the line GPU and if you game at high frame rates. Right now, Ryzen offers tremendous value for money and the marginal performance difference really isn't worth the added cost (Intel MBs are notoriously expensive and require you to use the latest chipset like Z390 with the 9 series. I guess the 10 series will follow suit). 

 

Gaming for Intel holds true if you have the budget for a high framerate rig. Mostly for at competitive gamers or for folks who want the absolute best and for whom cost is no bar

 

Lol current Ryzens need X570 chipset boards that cost 15k minimum from a reputed brand, same as Z390 boards.

Unless ofc you mean jumping through hoops to get a very specific b450 motherboard, getting ryzen gen 2 processor, updating the BIOS, putting the ryzen 3600 in, and then pulling your hair out because of bugs in the BIOS don't let it boot.

or getting an obscure MSI B450 motherboard with out of the box ryzen gen 3 support.

 

cheaper AMD is a meme, Both Intel AMD performance are neck and neck, so they price also accordingly, long ago in 2012-2013 AMD used to be cheap but their performance was absolute garbage compared to Intel.

[PhantomShade]

On 1/4/2020 at 9:21 PM, kunjanp said:

This doesn't make sense, this way he can wait another 4-5 months on top of it and get Ryzen Gen 4. There is a reason why reviewers don't utilise future claims. 

Again, Ryzen not having integrated gpu in case your gpu dies is a very small subset of scenarios. Acc. to this logic no one should buy Ryzen.

Ryzen over Intel if anyone wanna build a multi purpose rig today.

 

10 more fps in AC Odyssey because 12 threads is also a very minor thing, comparing to neck-and-neck performance in every other game but still people are shilling ryzen like crazy.

 

Don't know what this new bullshit trend is with cost cutting by these companies some don't have an igpu on the processor, some don't give a cooler with the processor :

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/

 

literally the difference is whether you want igp or 12 threads and more performance on AC Odyssey and the other 2 games like that.

 

People on the internets also say that the Ryzens are "future-proof" because more cores duh but then they said that for the FX 8350 from 2012 also 

[goDofWar_skr]

12 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Lol current Ryzens need X570 chipset boards that cost 15k minimum from a reputed brand, same as Z390 boards.

Unless ofc you mean jumping through hoops to get a very specific b450 motherboard, getting ryzen gen 2 processor, updating the BIOS, putting the ryzen 3600 in, and then pulling your hair out because of bugs in the BIOS don't let it boot.

or getting an obscure MSI B450 motherboard with out of the box ryzen gen 3 support.

 

You do not need an x570 chipset unless you want the PCIe gen4
Many B450 boards support BIOS flashback using which you can easily update the BIOS without even installing a CPU!  I did it when I recently purchased the B450M mortar..
Also most new boards in the market already support the Ryzen 3rd gen out of the box.. E.g. Asrock B450 series, Asus B450 series, MSI B450 max boards..

[KunjanPSD]

39 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

 

10 more fps in AC Odyssey because 12 threads is also a very minor thing, comparing to neck-and-neck performance in every other game but still people are shilling ryzen like crazy.

 

Don't know what this new bullshit trend is with cost cutting by these companies some don't have an igpu on the processor, some don't give a cooler with the processor :

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/

 

literally the difference is whether you want igp or 12 threads and more performance on AC Odyssey and the other 2 games like that.

 

People on the internets also say that the Ryzens are "future-proof" because more cores duh but then they said that for the FX 8350 from 2012 also 

Dude, Idk what logic you are getting at.

Ryzen 3 doesn't need X570 and many of the B450 motherboards out there support it out of the box. I think you have been keeping up with a wrong YouTube channel.

And they are readily available, just go on the internet or your local store and you will get it easily.

There aren't any boot issues in any of the systems I have seen and you certainly will keep all of your hair.

 

Also, what's the problem in getting "10 more fps" in AC Odyssey and some games while absolutely crushing Intel in workstation tasks? It's future proof as in, the games will get only more demanding in future and an Intel processor which isn't able to compete today, will not be able to put a better performance in the future as compared to Ryzen. More and more games are taking advantage of more cores and threads with every update.

 

Hardly anyone is gonna run a cpu of such specs without a gpu and saying that it doesn't have an igpu is like saying I won't buy a better performing Mercedes because they removed the reserve option from it or give fewer spare tires.

 

There is a reason why every reputed tech YouTuber recommends Ryzen. It's not about sheer performance, it's about bang for the buck.

If it had that many problems, they wouldn't have recommended it.

[l33tmaniac]

2 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

 

10 more fps in AC Odyssey because 12 threads is also a very minor thing, comparing to neck-and-neck performance in every other game but still people are shilling ryzen like crazy.

 

Don't know what this new bullshit trend is with cost cutting by these companies some don't have an igpu on the processor, some don't give a cooler with the processor :

 

https://www.techspot.com/review/1885-ryzen-5-3600-vs-core-i5-9400f/

 

literally the difference is whether you want igp or 12 threads and more performance on AC Odyssey and the other 2 games like that.

 

People on the internets also say that the Ryzens are "future-proof" because more cores duh but then they said that for the FX 8350 from 2012 also 

 

2 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Lol current Ryzens need X570 chipset boards that cost 15k minimum from a reputed brand, same as Z390 boards.

Unless ofc you mean jumping through hoops to get a very specific b450 motherboard, getting ryzen gen 2 processor, updating the BIOS, putting the ryzen 3600 in, and then pulling your hair out because of bugs in the BIOS don't let it boot.

or getting an obscure MSI B450 motherboard with out of the box ryzen gen 3 support.

 

cheaper AMD is a meme, Both Intel AMD performance are neck and neck, so they price also accordingly, long ago in 2012-2013 AMD used to be cheap but their performance was absolute garbage compared to Intel.

 

Well, for one, Ryzen offers more cores, 30-50% more performance in productivity tasks. Gaming takes a hit by around 10% if I am not wrong. And that too only when you use a 2080Ti or so and game at low res & high fps. The facts are out there in the wild. Not sure why you are trying to convince otherwise 

[CarbonCore]

3 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Lol current Ryzens need X570 chipset boards that cost 15k minimum from a reputed brand, same as Z390 boards.

Unless ofc you mean jumping through hoops to get a very specific b450 motherboard, getting ryzen gen 2 processor, updating the BIOS, putting the ryzen 3600 in, and then pulling your hair out because of bugs in the BIOS don't let it boot.

or getting an obscure MSI B450 motherboard with out of the box ryzen gen 3 support.

 

cheaper AMD is a meme, Both Intel AMD performance are neck and neck, so they price also accordingly, long ago in 2012-2013 AMD used to be cheap but their performance was absolute garbage compared to Intel.

 

 

What are you talking about?

[Aftrunner]

10 hours ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Lol current Ryzens need X570 chipset boards that cost 15k minimum from a reputed brand, same as Z390 boards.

Unless ofc you mean jumping through hoops to get a very specific b450 motherboard, getting ryzen gen 2 processor, updating the BIOS, putting the ryzen 3600 in, and then pulling your hair out because of bugs in the BIOS don't let it boot.

or getting an obscure MSI B450 motherboard with out of the box ryzen gen 3 support.

 

Is this a new copy pasta I am unaware of? Its excellent.  

[Heaven Angel]

EPIC yearly report

 

Total - $680 million

Fortnite brought in - $429m

3rd party games - $251m

 

EPIC cut $30. They also mention giving out $23m was just discounts and coupons. So made around $7m revenue after year on that market without counting the development, freebie deals or marketing.

 

Paid $10m+ for Control alone... 

 

 

Playtracker data suggests that Hades sold under 151,000 in one year of Epic Store Exclusivity
SteamSpy estimates that it has sold "200,000 - 500,000" copies in one month on Steam

 

Worse than everyone expected.