hsk_colossus Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 18 minutes ago, AnK said: What do you mean “compared” to M$ what did M$ have to upgrade & give apart from Gears 5 & Forza 4 in recent years Better give it for free if one is already clutching on straws Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 58 minutes ago, muchwow said: It really feels like Sony has decided to milk all the goodwill they built up last gen this gen. So many paid next gen upgrades compared to MS and a $10 hike in price of new games. And naming this the director's cut while the director himself doesn't agree with it. The trailer made it feel like they are trying to change the game to fall more in line with the rest of their exclusives and appeal to the american market. Fps boost that has been given free of cost is similar to the patches released by sony for free which makes games like TLOU2 run at 60fps on the ps5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, radicaldude said: Fps boost that has been given free of cost is similar to the patches released by sony for free which makes games like TLOU2 run at 60fps on the ps5. Not really Gears 5 & Forza 4 got upgraded with overhauled versions for Series consoles But as I said someone who’s clutching on straws already doesn’t have the negotiating power with the buyer Don’t know what made HSK fart….eerrr crack so hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 1 minute ago, iam said: https://majornelson.com/fpsboost/ What is this?!? if you are trying to compare this to free FPS upgrades of countless PS exclusives then you are as wrong as radical with his comparison This is hardly a “boost” it’s more of a performance mode that trades resolution with FPS,atleast in OneX/SX version of the games which were the new ones with an appeal left 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 7 minutes ago, AnK said: What is this?!? if you are trying to compare this to free FPS upgrades of countless PS exclusives then you are as wrong as radical with his comparison This is hardly a “boost” it’s more of a performance mode that trades resolution with FPS,atleast in OneX/SX version of the games which were the new ones with an appeal left There are 2-3 MS exclusives yet you can’t do your anal-ysis properly… what about sea of thieves and ori? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 (edited) I knew someone would count old Bathesda games as part of “M$ catalogue” what useless minds….not worth my time Edit:- Yeah I almost always forget about Sea of thieves existence please count that too Edited July 12, 2021 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchwow Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, AnK said: But as I said someone who’s clutching on straws already doesn’t have the negotiating power with the buyer This implies Sony is using its negotiating power to take advantage of the buyer. Which is exactly my original statement. Spider-man, GOT:DC and now this all feel a little too slimy to me. It negates the point of backward compatibility if your old copy isn't gonna get you the best version of the game. Ignore MS, enough companies have done it on PC as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, muchwow said: This implies Sony is using its negotiating power to take advantage of the buyer. Which is exactly my original statement. Spider-man, GOT:DC and now this all feel a little too slimy to me. It negates the point of backward compatibility if your old copy isn't gonna get you the best version of the game. Ignore MS, enough companies have done it on PC as well. Consider these new titles as 4k remasters. And if you want to experience the 4k goodness, you need to pay $10 in case of death stranding. Else sony has come out with 60fps patches already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, AnK said: I knew someone would count old Bathesda games as part of “M$ catalogue” what useless minds….not worth my time Edit:- Yeah I almost always forget about Sea of thieves existence please count that too “I only count things that suit my point” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 15 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Consider these new titles as 4k remasters. And if you want to experience the 4k goodness, you need to pay $10 in case of death stranding. isn’t he saying the same thing? That’s what’s slimy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 49 minutes ago, muchwow said: This implies Sony is using its negotiating power to take advantage of the buyer. Which is exactly my original statement. Spider-man, GOT:DC and now this all feel a little too slimy to me. It negates the point of backward compatibility if your old copy isn't gonna get you the best version of the game. Ignore MS, enough companies have done it on PC as well. Lol, what? Point of BC was never to get the best version with your old copy. Only reason why MS is giving free upgrades is because their entire gaming model is now solely based around gamepass. It is pointless for them to charge for upgrades anyway. Not saying Sony can't give away updates for free, they should and they are in some cases. Ultimately, $10 upgrade is fine as long as the changes are worth it. Better than paying $30-60 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchwow Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 Name one other backwards compatible console which got so many first party paid upgrades and I'll retract my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, muchwow said: Name one other backwards compatible console which got so many first party paid upgrades and I'll retract my point. XBone It was capable of doing BC from get go but M$ waited years to explore it Gears Ultimate,2 Halo Anniversaries ,Forza 5,Titanfall & many others were separately paid SKU’s instead no upgrade option either Now retract & leave 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alice Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 7 hours ago, dylanjosh said: So, should I wait for this to come to PC ? Was in the middle of playthrough I'd probably wait if I was in your shoes. Unless you plan on doing another run when the DC comes out for PC. I'm in the same boat as you. I have a 3080 was about to start a run. Will just hold off for now and see if they announce anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 37 minutes ago, AnK said: XBone It was capable of doing BC from get go but M$ waited years to explore it Gears Ultimate,2 Halo Anniversaries ,Forza 5,Titanfall & many others were separately paid SKU’s instead no upgrade option either Now retract & leave Source please? otherwise stop with your tales from the a*s. Every damn thread becomes a pile of sh*t the moment you start posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchwow Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 29 minutes ago, AnK said: XBone It was capable of doing BC from get go but M$ waited years to explore it Gears Ultimate,2 Halo Anniversaries ,Forza 5,Titanfall & many others were separately paid SKU’s instead no upgrade option either Now retract & leave Ok lets go through this: xbone wasn't BC on launch. They developed it later for whatever reasons like bad sales and it came out in 2015. By your argument the ps4 can probably do ps3 games but $ony did not even explore it. Gears ultimate: Came 9 years after the original, enough time for a significant upgrade and launched before BC was launched Halo Anniversary: Launched before BC was announced and is a compilation of all games on xbone Forza 5: Never launched on 360 to be BC Titanfall: Ported back to 360 after xbone launch. Nothing to retract Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, muchwow said: Ok lets go through this: xbone wasn't BC on launch. They developed it later for whatever reasons like bad sales and it came out in 2015. By your argument the ps4 can probably do ps3 games but $ony did not even explore it. Gears ultimate: Came 9 years after the original, enough time for a significant upgrade and launched before BC was launched Halo Anniversary: Launched before BC was announced and is a compilation of all games on xbone Forza 5: Never launched on 360 to be BC Titanfall: Ported back to 360 after xbone launch. Nothing to retract The funny part is he doesnt even own the console he is religiously defending the entire day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchwow Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 Just now, triggr happy ss said: The funny part is he doesnt even own the console he is religiously defending the entire day. It actually is considering I do own it. I also got DS on steam launch day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 Maybe not Forza 5 it was another Forza so many of them not my fault & what a stupid excuse to say that BC was “developed” later it was capable of running 360 codes in their native form as revealed years later after they made all the money on ports they could PS4 was never capable of doing that with PS3 code & neither is PS5 Also another stupid excuse when you don’t want to retract from words when proven wrong about not owning system So for speaking truth you need conditions 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muchwow Posted July 12, 2021 Report Share Posted July 12, 2021 So you have no actual arguments, no sources, no proofs and no net contribution to the discussion. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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