hope Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Right on point. My thoughts exactly. I will quote a simple incident here. During this diwali, I was discussing with one of my colleagues who belongs from around the Delhi side of the country. No offense to anyone intended. When I was asked what I was gonna do in diwali, I said that I would light some diyas and enjoy a good home cooked meal with family like I have been doing for several years now. To this he was surprised and asked why no crackers? I told him that I would not want to contribute more towards more pollution however small it may be, by not bursting crackers myself or allowing my family to do so. He was like it doesn't matter if you burst crackers for 1-2 hrs for one day once in a year. Also in facebook he has seen some swami ji's video telling that we drive vehicles and industries year long which cause far more pollution. So bursting crackers for 1-2 hrs once in a year is no problem and no one should stop us from doing so since we are Indians and diwali is our festival. I was like, OK you can do what you want but I prefer to not contribute anything extra to pollution and global warming over things on which I have control. For this again his reply was like global warming is also caused due to CO2 emissions, so when you breather you exhale CO2, so can you stop breathing then. That was the point when I understood, there are still people in the world, who qualify themselves as educated and make such nonsensical argument. So no wonder about the people who are uneducated, spoiled brats of wealthy corrupt people who fail to see the consequences. They don't care about the next generation. This example can be found all over the Country bro.Nobody cares here.Unless and until money is involved in some way.Nobody will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDofWar_skr Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Another irritating thing which I see everyday is the dry/wet waste segregation. Don't understand why is it so hard for people to separately dispose the dry and wet waste. Here in Bangalore, despite numerous ads and reminders by BBMP, people still don't do it. There were even times when BBMP stopped collecting the waste in my apartment since people were not separating the waste. Still my fellow residents would rather keep on piling up garbage rather than separating the waste. Instead they would bribe the waste collectors and add up the cost to the monthly maintenance bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Another irritating thing which I see everyday is the dry/wet waste segregation. Don't understand why is it so hard for people to separately dispose the dry and wet waste. Here in Bangalore, despite numerous ads and reminders by BBMP, people still don't do it. There were even times when BBMP stopped collecting the waste in my apartment since people were not separating the waste. Still my fellow residents would rather keep on piling up garbage rather than separating the waste. Instead they would bribe the waste collectors and add up the cost to the monthly maintenance bill. Aadat se majbur hai log bhai.Aadat badalna bada mushqil hai bhai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Another irritating thing which I see everyday is the dry/wet waste segregation. Don't understand why is it so hard for people to separately dispose the dry and wet waste. Here in Bangalore, despite numerous ads and reminders by BBMP, people still don't do it. There were even times when BBMP stopped collecting the waste in my apartment since people were not separating the waste. Still my fellow residents would rather keep on piling up garbage rather than separating the waste. Instead they would bribe the waste collectors and add up the cost to the monthly maintenance bill. Lol. Tell me about it. Where I am each household has been given separate color coded bins to segregate dry and wet waste. That means each house has 2 bins. Initially I was really happy and thought well it's a step in the right direction. At least till a few months later, when I saw what actually happens when the collectors reached the truck. The bags were torn open and dry and wet waste was piled together in the garbage truck. Holy sh*t. I took some photos and forwarded them to a guy I do business with in the local municipality. It's been over 6 months and it's the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDofWar_skr Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 A natural way to tackle air pollution..http://www.thealternative.in/lifestyle/want-to-clear-your-air-bring-these-15-house-plants-right-in/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goDofWar_skr Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Aadat se majbur hai log bhai.Aadat badalna bada mushqil hai bhai. Just saw Inception over the weekend.. Now wondering if I could do it, then how many levels down will I need to go and plant the idea in the head of these people.. 4 levels would definitely not be enough though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Just saw Inception over the weekend.. Now wondering if I could do it, then how many levels down will I need to go and plant the idea in the head of these people.. 4 levels would definitely not be enough though The problem is Indians don't care, in general. This chalta hai attitude is what will destroy the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 India's population isn't high because Indians are breeding like animals, it has been that way since the civilisation existed. Before the industrial revolution, India's population was almost a third of the world. Population of a land will naturally grow to what its land supports and north India has the most fertile river plain in the world. People have been having lots of kids for all of history, but until last century most kids would die before reaching adulthood. Since independence population of India has grown steadily because there have been any famines (unike the ones in the British era) and improvements in medicine. The population is projected to rise to 1.7 billion by 2050. Individual people decide their family size by choice, but the actions of the group as a whole are not by choice. On the other hand fertility rate in sub-Saharan Africa is quite high but they have low population because children keep dying due to disease and starvation. Of course it's been that way ever since civilisation. But the difference is that people in most developed countries have been taking active population control measures, because they have eventually realised the need for sustainable development, while that is not the case here. Sure educated people have started planning smaller families, but the percentage is still insignificant. We need strong population control measures like those adopted by China in 1973. Unfortunately vote bank politics will never allow such policies to be enacted. Well mostly Dilli, it's fine here.Fine right now , yes. But there is a warning in what is happening in Delhi now. We used to feel the same way while reading reports of smog in Beijing. And that chalta hai attitude is why we are in this mess now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Just in case some haven't watched this yet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90CkXVF-Q8M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALPHA17 Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 We need strong population control measures like those adopted by China in 1973. Unfortunately vote bank politics will never allow such policies to be enacted. This is not the solution, especially in society's like India and China because of the preference of a male child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Of course it's been that way ever since civilisation. But the difference is that people in most developed countries have been taking active population control measures, because they have eventually realised the need for sustainable development, while that is not the case here. Sure educated people have started planning smaller families, but the percentage is still insignificant. We need strong population control measures like those adopted by China in 1973. Unfortunately vote bank politics will never allow such policies to be enacted. Fine right now , yes. But there is a warning in what is happening in Delhi now. We used to feel the same way while reading reports of smog in Beijing. And that chalta hai attitude is why we are in this mess now. Again no, the population will naturally grow and then stabilise. For India it is around 170 crore and for the world it is around 1000 crores. Most of the people worried about population are the racist classist westerners who feel their influence will reduce as their population share % reduces. Same for rich and well to do people in India. Moreover it's not the poor people who are causing all this pollution. It is the richer people who are using most of the resources and causing pollution. USA has less than 5% of the world's people but use more than a quarter of its resources. And here in India we already have campaigns to limit family size, and the fertility rate is already somewhere around 2.3 (below world average). The optimum rate is 2.1. More than half the states are even below that, only UP and Bihar are major exceptions to this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_states_ranking_by_fertility_rate Watch this Hans Rosling presentation about the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ks064fU7_M Now coming over to the main point of this thread, pollution happens because of poor policies, lack of enactment of regulations coupled with some unfortunate geography. We also release pollutants south here, but we dont suffer as much as Delhi does because the particulate matter simply disperses instead of settling into a thick cloud of smog that stays on for days. If people are serious about curbing pollution then they must change their habits. Don't take the car when a motorcycle will do. Don't drive for walkable distances. Take public transport wherever possible. I heard Delhi has a very well functioning metro system. Don't buy a new phone every 6 months, even though the old one still works fine. Think of all the resources and energy that went into manufacturing that phone. Don't oppose hydropower or wind/nuclear power projects in your region because otherwise somewhere else a coal plant will have to be built in its place. Also it is inexcusable that so much agricultural waste that could have been used as fodder for animals has just been burnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Now coming over to the main point of this thread, pollution happens because of poor policies, lack of enactment of regulations coupled with some unfortunate geography. We also release pollutants south here, but we dont suffer as much as Delhi does because the particulate matter simply disperses instead of settling into a thick cloud of smog that stays on for days. If people are serious about curbing pollution then they must change their habits. Don't take the car when a motorcycle will do. Don't drive for walkable distances. Take public transport wherever possible. I heard Delhi has a very well functioning metro system. Don't buy a new phone every 6 months, even though the old one still works fine. Think of all the resources and energy that went into manufacturing that phone. Don't oppose hydropower or wind/nuclear power projects in your region because otherwise somewhere else a coal plant will have to be built in its place. Also it is inexcusable that so much agricultural waste that could have been used as fodder for animals has just been burnt. Well said. You didn't need to say it because everyone knows it. Everyone doing it is a whole other story of course. The slightest inconvenience triggers a wave of bitching and moaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Well said. You didn't need to say it because everyone knows it. Everyone doing it is a whole other story of course. The slightest inconvenience triggers a wave of bitching and moaning.Exactly. Everyone knows he/she is wrong, but nobody cares. The kind of inconsiderate attitude we Indians have towards our environment and surroundings is simply astonishing. People in parts of the country are dying of thirst and drought, while I see people(neighbours ) wasting 10s of 1000s of litres of water , just because they forget to switch off the motor before leaving for work , and as a result their tanks keep overflowing. These are the people who ignore repeated complaints and also bribe away the jal board officials in case of checks.With a mentality like that, I doubt anything other than forced measures would be helpful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted November 7, 2016 Report Share Posted November 7, 2016 Also one of the biggest pollutors in Delhi is the Badarpur thermal power plant. Our governemnt has the option of switching that off and utilising the LNG based green power plant in Bawana which is ready for operation. This plant would not only clean up the city air, but would also provide cheaper power to Delhites. Yet our so called people's representatives refuse to operate it, all in the name of opportunistic politics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush12ice Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Since some people are thinking about buying air purifiers. here are some tips on it from someone who works in the field of air quality. For all friends in North India - A quick guide to buying purifiers! 1. Check your room size. And prepare to insulate it well.2. Ask for a demo. Measure the difference in the demo. 3. Purifier = Filter + Fana. How expensive is the filter? How often does it need to be replaced.b. Ask for a pre-filter!c. Fan should be as quiet as possible. Insulating your room is extremely important. Winters are here so running a Fan is not just noisy it makes the room very cold. Purifier should be big enough to maintain low pollution levels at low FAN speed. Best Advice: Start measuring: Namita Gupta and Airveda can help. In my limited experience 80% of the people running purifiers are not getting anything out of them because they are not running them right and are not measuring. PS: i am not that someone.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 दिल्ली की हवा जानलेवा हुई यहाँ तक की प्रदूषण नापने वाली मशीन भी फ़ेल हो गयी है इस समय हवा मे 10 मिनट घूमना 10 सिगरेट पीने के बराबर है आप सभी से निवेदन है की बच्चों की इस गन्दी हवा से दूर रखे और जितना हो सके घर में ही रहे।। जहरीली हवा आपके शारीर पर असर न करे इसकेलिए कुछ ऐसा अवश्य करे 1. दिन में 3 बार निम्बू पानी पिए 2. 40 मिनट बाद आधा लीटर पानी जरूर पिए 3. मास्क पहन कर बहार निकले 4. आँखों पर कला चश्मा जरूर लगाये 5. प्रत्येक एक घंटे बाद ठन्डे पानी से आँखों को जरूर धोये Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted November 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 New Delhi is the most polluted city on Earth right now Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nr.Draca47 Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Since some people are thinking about buying air purifiers. here are some tips on it from someone who works in the field of air quality. Thanx for the pro tips Some questions : Why should I ask for a pre-filter? What is it? What did you mean by 'not using it Right' ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush12ice Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 bro no idea about it... One of my cousin was working with the startup Airveda mentioned in the post. He had posted this. You can maybe contact them to get more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstation Posted November 8, 2016 Report Share Posted November 8, 2016 Smog in China and India Have Given Birth to a New Industry: Bottled Air http://fortune.com/2016/11/07/india-china-pollution-bottled-air/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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