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3 minutes ago, yash_495 said:

 

How would you compare warframe to destiny? I tried warframe but sometimes it seems overwhelming with amount of stuff left to do, also combat missions feels repetitive

 

This might end up being a long post but here goes...

 

Content:

So I've been playing Warframe since 2013 and the game has come a very long way. Compared to Destiny the amount of content is through the roof with new stuff being added every couple of months. New quests, warframes, weapons and maps are added regularly with the most recent update adding an "open world zone" to Earth which isn't unlike a Destiny patrol zone. Their plan is to add more of these going forward. When it comes to content, Warframe is the clear winner. There's a lot to do - story quests, the galaxy map, collecting every frame and weapon, daily sorties that award high level stuff.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

Gameplay:

I'd say both games are equally fun to play with tons of mobility and very satisfying shooting / powers. I'd give Warframe the slight edge though because of the sheer variety in how each warframe plays. Every single one of the 30 or so frames feels unique and the weapons are far more creative than standard rifles, snipers and shotguns. In comparison, Destiny has far fewer classes and weapons.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

Accessibility:

This is where Destiny has a clear edge. Warframe gets more and more complicated as you play and certain mechanics aren't as fleshed out as others. Destiny is far more inviting to new players and overall a simple game that you can casually play, drop and pick up later without getting lost. Coming back to Warframe after a few months is crazy, you're bombarded with new stuff from every direction and it takes a while to make sense of anything. It's almost impossible to play Warframe without the wiki open in a browser tab. They've improved the new player stuff a lot but returning players still end up being lost.

 

Winner: Destiny

 

Rewards/Grind:

Both games are grindy af but I feel Warframe is slightly more just because of the overwhelming number of resources and items to keep track of as well as being a free to play game. That said, I don't feel like the game ever wastes your time because even while farming you're getting something (like XP, materials, chance at a specific reward) while Destiny is a bit hit or miss rewards. I'll say they're a tie on this front.

 

Winner: Tie

 

Story/Lore:

This one is a personal opinion but I find Warframe's lore and aesthetic more unique than Destiny's (which is simply a new take on the Halo formula). There are a few similarities between the two - like both are set in our solar system with different factions controlling planets and feature a sci-fi / fantasy theme. They both have surprisingly strong lore considering they're about doing repetitive missions for better loot. Both games have memorable characters with strong voice acting and dialog.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

So yeah overall I prefer Warframe because the game has a lot more to offer and is consistently growing. The thing that holds it back somewhat is the player experience (you really need to fully commit to make the most of it) while Destiny is much more "pick up and play". The F2P aspect of Warframe is also quite fair and you get 75% off vouchers often as daily login rewards. Really the only thing you need platinum for is the inventory slots. It also has a thriving player economy where you can trade stuff for platinum. Whereas Destiny has microtransactions on top of the $60 pricetag which to me feels quite unfair.

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6 minutes ago, Tyler said:

 

This might end up being a long post but here goes...

 

Content:

So I've been playing Warframe since 2013 and the game has come a very long way. Compared to Destiny the amount of content is through the roof with new stuff being added every couple of months. New quests, warframes, weapons and maps are added regularly with the most recent update adding an "open world zone" to Earth which isn't unlike a Destiny patrol zone. Their plan is to add more of these going forward. When it comes to content, Warframe is the clear winner. There's a lot to do - story quests, the galaxy map, collecting every frame and weapon, daily sorties that award high level stuff.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

Gameplay:

I'd say both games are equally fun to play with tons of mobility and very satisfying shooting / powers. I'd give Warframe the slight edge though because of the sheer variety in how each warframe plays. Every single one of the 30 or so frames feels unique and the weapons are far more creative than standard rifles, snipers and shotguns. In comparison, Destiny has far fewer classes and weapons.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

Accessibility:

This is where Destiny has a clear edge. Warframe gets more and more complicated as you play and certain mechanics aren't as fleshed out as others. Destiny is far more inviting to new players and overall a simple game that you can casually play, drop and pick up later without getting lost. Coming back to Warframe after a few months is crazy, you're bombarded with new stuff from every direction and it takes a while to make sense of anything. It's almost impossible to play Warframe without the wiki open in a browser tab. They've improved the new player stuff a lot but returning players still end up being lost.

 

Winner: Destiny

 

Rewards/Grind:

Both games are grindy af but I feel Warframe is slightly more just because of the overwhelming number of resources and items to keep track of as well as being a free to play game. That said, I don't feel like the game ever wastes your time because even while farming you're getting something (like XP, materials, chance at a specific reward) while Destiny is a bit hit or miss rewards. I'll say they're a tie on this front.

 

Winner: Tie

 

Story/Lore:

This one is a personal opinion but I find Warframe's lore and aesthetic more unique than Destiny's (which is simply a new take on the Halo formula). There are a few similarities between the two - like both are set in our solar system with different factions controlling planets and feature a sci-fi / fantasy theme. They both have surprisingly strong lore considering they're about doing repetitive missions for better loot. Both games have memorable characters with strong voice acting and dialog.

 

Winner: Warframe

 

So yeah overall I prefer Warframe because the game has a lot more to offer and is consistently growing. The thing that holds it back somewhat is the player experience (you really need to fully commit to make the most of it) while Destiny is much more "pick up and play". The F2P aspect of Warframe is also quite fair and you get 75% off vouchers often as daily login rewards. Really the only thing you need platinum for is the inventory slots. It also has a thriving player economy where you can trade stuff for platinum. Whereas Destiny has microtransactions on top of the $60 pricetag which to me feels quite unfair.

 

Thanks but it deepens my dilemma of buying Destiny 2. I want to like warframe but somehow it puts me off and destiny is the new shiny thing.. 

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10 minutes ago, yash_495 said:

 

Thanks but it deepens my dilemma of buying Destiny 2. I want to like warframe but somehow it puts me off and destiny is the new shiny thing.. 

Warframe will probably be active even 5 - 10 years down the line whereas destiny 2 will die in 3 years. Your time investment in warframe is rewarded with better weapons and warframes and more content which will be yours for years to come. 

Even if you are a hardcore destiny player, Bungie will show you the middle finger every few months and you'll have to buy those expansions and then lose all your characters, weapons, etc when Destiny 3 comes out.

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Yes, Warframe is a better long term time investment. Destiny will continue to get a $60 sequel every couple of years.

 

If Warframe intimidates you, just take it slow. Focus on getting one thing at a time and have clear objectives. The game has an amazing community too. Chat is always active, players are always willing to help, there are quality youtubers making guides and the wiki is super detailed. Now if the gameplay itself doesn't appeal to you then that's a different thing. I'm not sure how far into Warframe you are but know that if you don't like a certain frame/weapon there's always something else that's better. So get a couple more frames and weapons, then decide. Getting new stuff isn't hard at all.

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4 hours ago, yash_495 said:

 

Thanks but it deepens my dilemma of buying Destiny 2. I want to like warframe but somehow it puts me off and destiny is the new shiny thing.. 

 

Destiny isn't worth more than 15-20$ max. Maybe 40 all DLC included. It's never a complete game and they won't complete it until Destiny 3 will be coming out. I had over 2000+ hours and most in PvP but I did challenge myself in PvE too from time to time in D1, the game that I got to play and grinded the most in D1 was completely different from the game it became in Y2 and again completely different in Y3. 

 

Those that came the latest got the biggest bang for their buck and missed out on NOTHING EXCEPT the PvP aspect. And most Destiny players are not PvP players. Yes D1 Y1 Y2 PvP was way superior than anything they've had since and even most probably they will in D2 (they set themselves up for failure with 4v4).

 

Literally ANY game you play will end up being better than Destiny, no matter which iteration of it comes out, it's quite predictable and logical by the way Bungie and Activision have been responding and creating content the past 3-5 years.

 

I hear a lot of great things about Warframe and I see one of the biggest Destiny twitch streamers now playing Warframe and it's been less than 2 months since D2 has released.

 

Bang for buck? Even South Park is worth more than Destiny X.

My suggestion just play on a friends account from time to time, I am doing the same. The game is worth checking out just because it's going to be 4k uncapped FPS on PC, but besides that there is nothing about Destiny that is really worth checking out.

PC life is predicted to be 1 month or shorter.

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Played 3 campaign missions on MKB, then moved and played one Crucible on MKB. Switched to Controller and started dominating. Controller aim assist is definitely strong and very noticeable, maybe because it's a 60+ fps game. Also played against a top D2 player and streamer and ended up similar as him in the game, I'm not sure if he was MKB or Joystick.

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5 hours ago, newuxtreme said:

Played 3 campaign missions on MKB, then moved and played one Crucible on MKB. Switched to Controller and started dominating. Controller aim assist is definitely strong and very noticeable, maybe because it's a 60+ fps game. Also played against a top D2 player and streamer and ended up similar as him in the game, I'm not sure if he was MKB or Joystick.

I am so gonna dominate in trials :naughty:

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In another news:

https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/46101

 

Players are getting banned for using in-game overlays. Fraps, to start with :lol:

 



Framerate and statistics overlays, such as those provided by EVGA Precision XOC, MSi Afterburner, and Fraps, are not compatible with Destiny 2.

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In another news:
https://www.bungie.net/en/Help/Article/46101
 
Players are getting banned for using in-game overlays. Fraps, to start with
 




Framerate and statistics overlays, such as those provided by EVGA Precision XOC, MSi Afterburner, and Fraps, are not compatible with Destiny 2.


They're not getting banned. It's been confirmed by Deej. It just causes the game to not run at times, nothing more than that.

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Right, so I played the first couple of missions and stopped there. Game is like butter on the PC even with all the bells and whistles turned on. Absolutely love how it feels. I'm not a fan of the default MKB setup though, on one hand aiming with the mouse is great but the abilities are designed around a controller so it feels a little weird. I'll probably get used to it but will have to remap some stuff. The music really stands out especially the part where you're making you're way to The Farm after the attack. Anyway, Destiny story missions are usually nothing special but it seems they're at least trying to make them feel different. All I want is to power through to 20 and start with the real game.

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PSA: Once you get to the part where you need to unlock IO by reaching level 11, don't complete the IO Story missions. Pop a fireteam medallion and grind heroic public events. Every 2 successful heroic public event completions award you with XP equivalent to +1 actual level. So get to level 20 and then go on with completing the remaining story missions. This way, you can hit the 260 power level hardcap in around 2-3 hours from the start of your public​ event grind, which would otherwise take you 2-3 days to get to.

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Right, so I played the first couple of missions and stopped there. Game is like butter on the PC even with all the bells and whistles turned on. Absolutely love how it feels. I'm not a fan of the default MKB setup though, on one hand aiming with the mouse is great but the abilities are designed around a controller so it feels a little weird. I'll probably get used to it but will have to remap some stuff. The music really stands out especially the part where you're making you're way to The Farm after the attack. Anyway, Destiny story missions are usually nothing special but it seems they're at least trying to make them feel different. All I want is to power through to 20 and start with the real game.
I felt the same. I ditched MKB after a couple crucible games in the beta and switched back to the controller due to its high aim assist. From then on, there was no going back.

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1 hour ago, Tyler said:

Thanks for the tip.

Also, do not go for blue marked quests immediately. They are exotic quests and give a great boost to your power level. they give you weapon close to 20+ of your current power level.

 

reach 260 or 265 with public events

do the weekly powerful gear events(should be in your milestone)

once you hit around 275+, start with exotic quests. you will reach close to 290

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