Guest Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte confirmed Italy will ease lockdown measures from May 4, but schools won’t open until September and we’re unlikely to see crowds in stadiums until January 2021. They were the first European country to go into lockdown due to the coronavirus pandemic, with the first cases springing up on February 20, and over 26,000 people have now died. A partial lockdown was ordered in several northern regions affected, then extended to the entire country from March 10. The latest Government decree will expire on May 4 and that is the date when measures will be eased, including around sport and training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 26, 2020 Report Share Posted April 26, 2020 Delhi 293 ??? We crossed 1600, despite MH having lesser numbers. Looking very grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mysteryman Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 23 hours ago, Razpor said: Though those things are quite bad as well, but i doubt humanity has faced a phase of non-activity or lock down or whatever you wanna call it on such a massive scale for quite a while,you don't know how this period will be read as in human history ,maybe it will be worse than those events ?? no one knows,we are still going through this,so making an assumption just now would be foolish. The lethality of the corona is much lower than the Black Death percentage wise. Furthermore there is better communication and health technology now than in those times so more people aware of the prevention measures and recovered from the virus. In every country there are always going to be few bad eggs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/6bd88b7d-3386-4543-b2e9-0d5c6fac846c Deaths are massively under-reported. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hazard12345 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Crossed 3M+ USA will cross 1M+ today. Russia overtakes China. China in 10th spot. 20k away from dropping out of top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerY2J Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 8 minutes ago, hazard12345 said: I am perfectly fine with not getting one although the heat is a problem. It's already the longest I have been without a haircut/shave : a full 7 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, AnK said: More or less it’s safe to say that count only registers for individual who got specifically admitted,tested & treated for covid only This is what is being done wrong. Even a person who dies in a car accident, should be tested for Covid, in order to help authorities/family handle the dead body properly. Especially in the regions where positive rate is more than 10% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 That’s incorrect. @AnK For example California, is still having 200 deaths or injuries in road accidents everyday, it has reduced just by 50% that of what they have normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 The increase in stats is on top of your average for these months for last 5 years. But that baseline is already lower thanks to lockdown, so not only is it worse than official numbers but also worse in general. It might sound all doom and gloom but if people knew the real numbers maybe they won't start pushing for reopening so soon. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 The increase in stats is on top of your average for these months for last 5 years. But that baseline is already lower thanks to lockdown, so not only is it worse than official numbers but also worse in general. It might sound all doom and gloom but if people knew the real numbers maybe they won't start pushing for reopening so soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CarbonCore said: It might sound all doom and gloom but if people knew the real numbers maybe they won't start pushing for reopening so soon. The problem with locking down/re-opening is - Soon enough tons of people will go into poverty because they can't work. Employers can't support people indefinitely because they themselves are becoming more poor by the day and still have their own families to feed. This is especially true for SMEs. Govt. is also not having much income, since liquor income and tourism income is completely stopped and petrol/diesel tax income and other tax income has reduced drastically. Continue Lockdown long enough, and soon enough for many people the choice will be - either die of hunger with certainty and torture or take a chance to die of sickness (which has a far lower probability - Since Hunger and Thirst has a 100% fatality rate, that too after torture unlike COVID19). That is not the situation people should ever come to. Like it or not, economy is important too. And I'm not even taking mental torture into account, since most humans are not built to be in house arrest. We should be glad that we will not come to this situation anytime soon, but a lot of people (In the millions) will soon enough. Govt. can extend lockdown a little bit. But it's still a pause button, not a solution. The time of lockdown is to build up facilities enough so that once it's lifted, hospitals can take in all the sick people, including the newly affected ones. Hopefully, the vaccine comes soon, so life can go back to mormal. But from the news I'm seeing, most probably the first major vaccines will be ready by September. Don't think Govt. can maintain lockdown that long and expect people to co-operate. Edited April 27, 2020 by roun90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razpor Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, Mysteryman said: The lethality of the corona is much lower than the Black Death percentage wise. Furthermore there is better communication and health technology now than in those times so more people aware of the prevention measures and recovered from the virus. In every country there are always going to be few bad eggs. Sure, but lethality of a virus in modern times is not just about mortality but about how deeply it effects the economy and underlying social effects. Easy transmission permits this disease to cause unprecedented changes in our lifestyle and business activity ,likes of which we haven't seen in a long long time. Edited April 27, 2020 by Razpor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 16 minutes ago, Keano said: Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Holy sh*t confederate flags, because waving normal national flag wasn't fascist enough 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 (edited) Wait a sec, what the *bleep* is up with all these people going around, with signs and flags and stuff? Are Americans not looking at their own numbers? They've gotta be at a million by now. Edited April 27, 2020 by Chirag2001 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 2 hours ago, CarbonCore said: The increase in stats is on top of your average for these months for last 5 years. But that baseline is already lower thanks to lockdown, so not only is it worse than official numbers but also worse in general. It might sound all doom and gloom but if people knew the real numbers maybe they won't start pushing for reopening so soon. That’s correct. Anything above the baseline + 10-20% of baseline can be accounted for total Covid deaths. They should tell us the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Chirag2001 said: Wait a sec, what the *bleep* is up with all these people going around, with signs and flags and stuff? Are Americans not looking at their own numbers? They've gotta be at a million by now. They voted for Trump. What do you think? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 3 hours ago, CarbonCore said: Holy sh*t confederate flags, because waving normal national flag wasn't fascist enough Everyone seems to wave the flag there just to spin whatever their "cause" is to be the "patriotic" and AMERICAN thing, i.e virtue signalling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotSonix Posted April 27, 2020 Report Share Posted April 27, 2020 Any maps available to track the red zones in your city ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts