Halo Infinite

[AnK]

If something happens to Kratos!!

 

[Zod]

3 hours ago, AnK said:

Misinformation again.

 

Ratchet & Clank

Shadow Of Colossus

Demon Souls

TLOUP1

Until Dawn

 

all are using new engines & have been built from scratch be it coding or animations.

1- Tlou 1 remake and 2 uses upgraded and modified Uncharted engine. Its not new engine, its upgraded for PS5.

 

Tlou 1 remaster or remake was done using Tlou 2 assets and technology. 

 

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-the-last-of-us-part-1-ps5-remaster-vs-original-ps4-pro-remaster

 

 

 

2 - Ratchet uses again upgraded modified engine. 

 

https://insomniacgames.fandom.com/wiki/Insomniac_Engine_v.2.0#:~:text=The Insomniac Engine v.,for Booty and Resistance 2.

 

 

Here - The Insomniac Engine v. 2.0 is a video game engine owned by Insomniac. This engine was used in Ratchet And Future: Tools of Destruction, Ratchet And Clank Future: Quest for Booty and Resistance 2.

 

 

 

And Untill Dawn is more of remaster than remake. 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/until-dawn-pc-remake-has-a-broken-ray-tracing-experience-amd-fsr-3-doesnt-work-at-all/amp/

 

Its also very poorly optimized and getting criticism from Fans 

 

Now Demon souls and Shadow  I can agree with you. Both are proper remake with new engine. 

 

Halo case completely different. From slip space to UE5.

Edited October 8, 2024 by Zod

[Big Boss]

2 hours ago, Mysteryman said:

What is the controversy with Pierre Hintze? Has he done something bad or is he part of the modern audience?

 

 

 

 

[Zod]

Just now, Big Boss said:

 

 

 

 

Halo will remain sh*t as long as 343 handling it. Hand over franchise to Id software or Machine games. 

[AnK]

14 minutes ago, Zod said:

Tlou 1 and 2 uses upgraded and modified engine. Its not new engine.Tlou 1 remaster or remake was done using Tlou 2 engine.

 

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2022-the-last-of-us-part-1-ps5-remaster-vs-original-ps4-pro-remaster

 

 

 

Ratchet uses again upgraded modified engine. 

 

 

 

Untill Dawn is more of remastered than remake.

 

Now Demon souls and Shadow  I can agree with you. Both are proper remake with new engine. 

 

LMAO!!!  

 

LOU1 was on the old PS3 engine 

 

Remake is on the different engine developed for PS4 onwards!!

 

So if the developer upgrades its engine to a completely new gen it’s the SAME in your books!!  

 

So HellBlade 1 & 2 were built on SAME ENGINE?!?!

 

You really want me to pull out all of your comments on how HellBlade 2 is cutting edge generation defining next gen game due to it’s UE5 usage?!?

All those praise for Xbox first party in UE5!! 
Should I pull it out?!?  

 

You full of misinformation dude!! 
 

Even Until Dawn has been built from scratch on Unreal Engine 5 & the old one was built on Decima Engine!!

 

So that is Remaster even after changing everything rebuilt for UE5!!? 
 

 

 

Abbey kitni JHOOT BAKWAS phailayega?!? 
 

Chal Bhaaaag  

Edited October 8, 2024 by AnK

[Mysteryman]

1 hour ago, Big Boss said:

 

 

 

 

Isn't chief of staff like an HR role? Women usually take those roles to boost the diversity quota. 

[Zod]

2 hours ago, AnK said:

 

LMAO!!!  

 

LOU1 was on the old PS3 engine 

 

Remake is on the different engine developed for PS4 onwards!!

 

So if the developer upgrades its engine to a completely new gen it’s the SAME in your books!!  

 

So HellBlade 1 & 2 were built on SAME ENGINE?!?!

 

You really want me to pull out all of your comments on how HellBlade 2 is cutting edge generation defining next gen game due to it’s UE5 usage?!?

All those praise for Xbox first party in UE5!! 
Should I pull it out?!?  

 

You full of misinformation dude!! 
 

Even Until Dawn has been built from scratch on Unreal Engine 5 & the old one was built on Decima Engine!!

 

So that is Remaster even after changing everything rebuilt for UE5!!? 
 

 

 

Abbey kitni JHOOT BAKWAS phailayega?!? 
 

Chal Bhaaaag  

Read properly. Engine was upgraded and modified for PS4 and PS5. Engine is called the Naughty Dog Engine. It was called Uncharted engine during PS3 but they renamed it too Naughty Dog engine for PS4 games and for Uncharted 4 it was  significantly enhanced and upgraded for PS4. Now for PS5 again, it was improved for Last of Us1 remastered.

 

They didn't make new engine for Last of Us 2 and Tlou 1 remake from ground up. Making new engine not easy and cheap. Most devs upgrade and enhanced their old engine.Call of Duty best example of it.

 

You can read about it here -

 

The Last of Us Part II was developed using Naughty Dog's in-house proprietary game engine, "completed overhauled" since the release of Uncharted 4.[1]

 

 

https://playstation-studios.fandom.com/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_Part_II

^,Scroll down to Technology paragraph.

 

Halo case is different. Slip space vs UE5 

Edited October 8, 2024 by Zod

[Zod]

Tlou 1 remastered used Tlou 2 technology and assets and Zero Dawn remastered uses Forbidden west assets and technology. 

 

 

Hellblade 2 is on UE5, nextgen gem version of UE. It uses upgraded version of Unreal technology. If someone makes Hellblade 1 remake tomorrow then it will use Hellblade 2 technology and assets.

 

 

Halo will not use upgraded version of Slip space. They going completely different route with no connection to Slip Space, hence the difference.  UE5 made by Epic snd Slip space by 343. So connection between both.

Edited October 8, 2024 by Zod

[AnK]

Abbey toh if TLOU1 is using TLOU2 engine which is as much of an upgrade as UE5 is to UE4 than how one is new engine & other is not?!?  

 

 

Aur Until Dawn has switched entire engine & character models & assets & animations (just like TLOUP1) so how the f**k are these remasters & not remakes?!?  

 

& why are you bringing HorizonZD remaster in the mix when I didn’t even count it in Remakes?!? 
 

The name itself says it’s Remaster as apart from assets & lighting it’s not upgrading anything!!  

 

 

 

 

[AnK]

3 hours ago, Zod said:

2 - Ratchet uses again upgraded modified engine. 

 

https://insomniacgames.fandom.com/wiki/Insomniac_Engine_v.2.0#:~:text=The Insomniac Engine v.,for Booty and Resistance 2.

 

 

Here - The Insomniac Engine v. 2.0 is a video game engine owned by Insomniac. This engine was used in Ratchet And Future: Tools of Destruction, Ratchet And Clank Future: Quest for Booty and Resistance 2.

 

 

 

According to this genius here this is not a remake but whatever Halo will do in UE5 will be a remake!!  

 

 

 

 

[Zod]

4 hours ago, AnK said:

Abbey toh if TLOU1 is using TLOU2 engine which is as much of an upgrade as UE5 is to UE4 than how one is new engine & other is not?!?  

 

 

Aur Until Dawn has switched entire engine & character models & assets & animations (just like TLOUP1) so how the f**k are these remasters & not remakes?!?  

 

& why are you bringing HorizonZD remaster in the mix when I didn’t even count it in Remakes?!? 
 

The name itself says it’s Remaster as apart from assets & lighting it’s not upgrading anything!!  

 

 

 

 

What i meant to say one engine used in all ND games,  it just getting upgraded and modified with new PS hardware. ND is not creating new engine for evey new game. 

 

Same goes for Insomniac V2 engine. One gets improved and upgraded with new hardware.  I posted link above which shows same PS3 engine was upgraded and modified for PS4 then PS5.

 

Its ccommon practice n industry. Almost all major AAA devs continue with one engine and keep modifying it with new hardware every gen.

 

 

 

Halo case is different coz 343 not gonna continue with their current Halo engine and technology. They completely going for different tools and technology with UE5.

 

Hope it got into your thick brain. I'm getting tired trying to explain simple stuff to you. 

 

[AnK]

Thick brains are the ones deviating discussions.

 

Which was not about engine versions but about Remakes.

 

So according to you the sample i showed above is not a worthy remake because the engine has upgraded from 2001 V1 to 2017 VXYZ & not using another engine created & upgraded by someone else in same timelines.

Which Until Dawn is doing btw but is still unworthy somehow!!

 

So it’s unworthy remake & not a proper remake just on that basis.

 

Khud bekar baat bol ke phas gaya hai tu….paon chhuu ke maafi maangle kissi ko pata nahi challega!!

Edited October 9, 2024 by AnK

[Zod]

8 hours ago, AnK said:

Thick brains are the ones deviating discussions.

 

Which was not about engine versions but about Remakes.

 

So according to you the sample i showed above is not a worthy remake because the engine has upgraded from 2001 V1 to 2017 VXYZ & not using another engine created & upgraded by someone else in same timelines.

Which Until Dawn is doing btw but is still unworthy somehow!!

 

So it’s unworthy remake & not a proper remake just on that basis.

 

Khud bekar baat bol ke phas gaya hai tu….paon chhuu ke maafi maangle kissi ko pata nahi challega!!

No remakes of Horizon Zero dawn,  Untill Dawn and all which are fairly recent games and already looks pretty good are not needed. Apart from new face models and lighting there's not much difference. 

 

Ratchet 2016 remake i can understand, Demon Souls remake was needed and so does Shadow, no issues with these remakes but Horizon and Last of us naa. Remake should have night and day difference which is not the case of with PS4 games remakes. Last of Us 1 was already remaster for PS4 once with improved graphics and frame rate. No one asked for remakes.

 

 

 

And coming back to Halo remake using UE5?  Did MS even confirmed it or just rumors? 

 

 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Zod

[AnK]

Not needed or needed is an individual perception & not the debate here.

 

If anything going by TLOUP1 sales….it was needed by many by the looks of it.

 

Also Bringing again HorizonZD again & again in a remake debate like a broken record is quite stupid coz the Title itself says Remaster & not Remake.

Nothing but Assets,LOD & Lighting has changed there.

 

 

You said Halo Remake is worthy because it’s ditching SlipSpace engine of 2001 & using UE of 2020

 

But if another game is made fresh entirely re-built in a new engine of the same lineage from decades ago….it’s not worth it!!!

 

Forget the demand or supply as we don’t even know what will be Halo’s demand!!

 

Explain how one is worthy & not the other one from a creative standpoint?!?!

Edited October 9, 2024 by AnK

[Zod]

 

Only remakes which are atleast 2 or 3 generations old minimum makes sense to me. Remakes of PS4 games are pointless and bad trend in industry coz devs will just make remakes than new games. And it Doesn't matter if some dumbass ponies buying Sony remakes in big numbers. Transformer movies makes billion doesnt mean they good lol.

 

 

 

Halo 1 has never been remade. They just did remaster it by improving graphics and frame rate and added few 3rd party made Blur cutscenes for Master Chief Collection. I dont know why anyone thinks it was remake.

 

Halo 1 should be completely remade, basically  like creating new game with all new assets and technology using UE5 and then release it on PS5 and all other platforms.  Give Ponies Halo powered by UE5, they will forget Killzone and Resistance. 

Edited October 9, 2024 by Zod

[AnK]

So you think Halo Anniversaries & Gears Ultimate were pointless full priced remakes!! 

Wonder why you didn’t say so back then.

 

Also wonder why you went from Engines Switch to Demand to now 2 generations apart in wavering mind of what you want to exactly say….

[rushab oswal]

another thread that has nothing to do with the actual thread

[VelivolusDas]

2 hours ago, rushab oswal said:

another thread that has nothing to do with the actual thread

 

True, but this is the Halo: Infinite thread.  At least there's some traction here now...

[SpearHea:D]