RV1709 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 540p ? - sales don’t matter - exclusives don’t matter - resolution doesn’t matter 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Abbey kyu koi 540p mai 75fps chahe ga?!? Yeh chahte kya hai Xbox walle,bc co-op toh bana nahi paye 6 saal me…..120fps pohochana hai 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, AnK said: PS4 install base was not 116m in 2018. fail comparison. & totally fail analogy to judge a game’s success with it’s platform’s instal base. Millions & Millions of PS users buy it only for FIFA,CoD or F2P games. I’m sure many do that on Xbox too but not as much. Halo & Forza didn’t touch the figures of Sony games while they were on sale(along with the platform) so it’ll be idiotic to call them as successful as them now when they are not on sale!!! & millions are just booting to have a look. I am not calling these games as successful as Sony's games .These games were highly successful in their own right. And no you can't compare relative success without taking into consideration the total addressable market . Also GOW war didn't sell 20 mil in 2018 either by that logic . All figures are lifetime sales . It's not a fail comparison - it's the only factual comparison you can do. Job of an Analyst - is to use data and draw conclusions. Not to draw conclusions based on emotions ( which are almost always biased ) Also Millions of users also buy Xbox to only play FIFA / COD / F2P games . Hence these games features heavily in top 10 best selling games of xbox . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Ok compare PC sales with it’s install base in mind next time….if you think it’s so logical to do that without considering the fact that these systems have multiple demographics & not just One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 28 minutes ago, Krazyniks said: I am not calling these games as successful as Sony's games .These games were highly successful in their own right. And no you can't compare relative success without taking into consideration the total addressable market . Also GOW war didn't sell 20 mil in 2018 either by that logic . All figures are lifetime sales . It's not a fail comparison - it's the only factual comparison you can do. Job of an Analyst - is to use data and draw conclusions. Not to draw conclusions based on emotions ( which are almost always biased ) Also Millions of users also buy Xbox to only play FIFA / COD / F2P games . Hence these games features heavily in top 10 best selling games of xbox . His point is that as the install base of any system increases, proportion of casuals increases. Thinking that the sales would increase in the same way the install base would increase (after a certain threshold) isn't correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 50 minutes ago, PhantomShade said: All the ghulams -e- gamepass here heap sh*t on radical but when it comes to this guy it's all ok I guess He maybe an Xbot but unlike Radical and few of his PSbot friends he doesn't post stuff praising Xbox or insulting Sony on a daily basis . He doesn't make fun of the neutrals ( Ghulam - e - Gamepass ) for playing Sony's games or praising them unlike some of the PSbots who call out neutrals when they praise gamepass like you are doing right now . Nor does he advise anyone here not to Buy PS . Radical/Hope/Ank have here multiple times said one shouldn't buy XSS/XSX cause it's no good / has no next gen games / is nothing but a 57.5k scam . Hope - even made fun of others (including me) who were suggesting yeah its a worth to buy XSX/S . Now its okay if they were genuinely giving advice without being biased but we all know (and they know) they are biased and hence they shouldn't advise anyone to begin with . These guys don't even leave Xbox Threads alone . You will find PS bots making slight fun of Xbox and MS every now and then when they have no business at all being in that thread. I don't see Xbots doing the same in PS thread . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 46 minutes ago, RV1709 said: 540p ? - sales don’t matter - exclusives don’t matter - resolution doesn’t matter WTF 540p?! Infinite isn't even that good looking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Sach4life said: His point is that as the install base of any system increases, proportion of casuals increases. Thinking that the sales would increase in the same way the install base would increase (after a certain threshold) isn't correct. Same applies to Xbox (maybe to a lesser extent ) but it does apply . So the comparison can be done and nothing illogical about it . It may not give you the most accurate result but does give a fairly decent idea . You can't compare direct sales of a game on different platforms where one platform has 3x the prospective users compared to other . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 18 minutes ago, gecko89 said: WTF 540p?! Infinite isn't even that good looking. Anyone who thinks series s is a current gen system, is just fooling himself- just what spender wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 It's funny when people pull out pitchforks and knives when sony prices their true current gen quality games for $70 But Dont bat an eye when someone spends 35k on a piece of crap system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 The fact that Series S can play Flight Simulator ( a game in which decent PC rigs struggles ) and supports 120 fps on some games makes it next gen . Not to mention Quick Resume. None of the crap posted by PSbots would make us XSS users feel otherwise. Also posting one Screenshot where XSS is struggling doesn't mean the game runs like that only throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 When you can get a ps5 digital edition @40k which is 1000 times better than a series s, not one should even look at the system @32-35k the ideal price of series s should be 20-25k (for a somewhat new unit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixote_1989 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, radicaldude said: When you can get a ps5 digital edition @40k which is 1000 times better than a series s, not one should even look at the system @32-35k the ideal price of series s should be 20-25k (for a somewhat new unit). I think that part is universally agreed that XSS is badly overpriced at least in India. Not believing that is frankly delusional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, gecko89 said: This exactly. There's so many better games to buy, why the f**k would anyone buy a mediocre indie. On the other hand, GP users get the mediocre indie as part of their sub, no extra charge and they're bragging about more players. And this 400 vs 12k number is from a trophy site?! Most PS users use Psnprofiles not true trophies, what dumbass made that tweet The point of that tweet was games are less risky on gamepass, and Dev's get paid. It has nothing to do with quality of game or no of players on system. Edited May 9, 2022 by Vaibhavp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Vaibhavp said: The point of that tweet was games are less risky on gamepass, and Dev's get paid. It has nothing to do with quality or no of players on system. Devs get paid babaji ka thullu, the reason "gp exclusive indies" find themselves on ps as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassins Creed Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 What happened to @gamer_adi Xbots ne paisa dena band kar diya or Ponies gave supari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, radicaldude said: When you can get a ps5 digital edition @40k which is 1000 times better than a series s, not one should even look at the system @32-35k the ideal price of series s should be 20-25k (for a somewhat new unit). How is PS5 Digital better when -No availability -Overpriced subscription service -No day one first party games unless you shell out 5k per game and keep it forever. Get disc model unless you have specific requirements like me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Assassins Creed said: What happened to @gamer_adi Xbots ne paisa dena band kar diya or Ponies gave supari Came back from his og profile when unbanned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: How is PS5 Digital better when -No availability -Overpriced subscription service -No day one first party games unless you shell out 5k per game and keep it forever. Get disc model unless you have specific requirements like me. For your requirements (540p gaming), even a ps2 should suffice. Edited May 9, 2022 by radicaldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: The point of that tweet was games are less risky on gamepass, and Dev's get paid. It has nothing to do with quality of game or no of players on system. No, the point of the tweet and the reason it was shared was to compare current users on both platforms. It has everything to do with number of players. And the reasoning is nothing short of nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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