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Sach4life Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Krazyniks said: Same applies to Xbox (maybe to a lesser extent ) but it does apply . So the comparison can be done and nothing illogical about it . It may not give you the most accurate result but does give a fairly decent idea . You can't compare direct sales of a game on different platforms where one platform has 3x the prospective users compared to other . What applies to Xbox? It doesn't matter if it is xbox or PS, point is that game sales wont increase the same way system sales would increase. Hence, saying that games like Halo or Forza would have sold the same way Spider man or God Of War did had Xbox sales increased isn't entirely correct. That is the point I am making. Not to forget, likes of Halo doesn't hold anywhere close to the cache it used to hold is one of the reasons why Xbox didnt sell as much anyway. Nothing is in isolation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Sach4life said: What applies to Xbox? It doesn't matter if it is xbox or PS, point is that game sales wont increase the same way system sales would increase. Hence, saying that games like Halo or Forza would have sold the same way Spider man or God Of War did had Xbox sales increased isn't entirely correct. That is the point I am making. Not to forget, likes of Halo doesn't hold anywhere close to the cache it used to hold is one of the reasons why Xbox didnt sell as much anyway. Nothing is in isolation Dude this argument falls flat the very moment you consider that Halo 2 sold close to 10m on an install base of just 20m lifetime One simply can’t bind the success of a game on its platform instal base. That’s what exclusives are meant to increase if they are collectively successful. One halo couldn’t do sh*t for Xbox no matter how much successful it was within its own right. If someone buys PS for Spider-Man & also plays FIFA….his FIFA friend will buy PS despite him having no interest in Spider-Man or GoW. Edited May 9, 2022 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, AnK said: Dude this argument falls flat the very moment you consider that Halo 2 sold close to 10m on an install base of just 20m lifetime One simply can’t bind the success of a game on its platform instal base. That’s what exclusives are meant to increase if they are collectively successful. One halo couldn’t do sh*t for Xbox no matter how much successful it was within its own right. If someone buys PS for Spider-Man & also plays FIFA….his FIFA friend will buy PS despite him having no interest in Spider-Man or GoW. Install base would definitely make an impact on the sales of a game but to say that both would increase by same number is incorrect is what I am implying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Sach4life said: Install base would definitely make an impact on the sales of a game but to say that both would increase by same number is incorrect is what I am implying. It’s collectively equally vice-versa is what I meant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sach4life Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, AnK said: It’s collectively equally vice-versa is what I meant. Quality and popularity of exclusive games would make an impact on the sales of a system is also true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 22 minutes ago, Sach4life said: What applies to Xbox? It doesn't matter if it is xbox or PS, point is that game sales wont increase the same way system sales would increase. Hence, saying that games like Halo or Forza would have sold the same way Spider man or God Of War did had Xbox sales increased isn't entirely correct. That is the point I am making. Not to forget, likes of Halo doesn't hold anywhere close to the cache it used to hold is one of the reasons why Xbox didnt sell as much anyway. Nothing is in isolation I haven't said anywhere that Halo/Forza would have sold the same way like GOW/Spiderman if Xbox one sold 100 mil. But overall sales of Forza/Halo would have been much much more then what it is now. These games were successful in their own right . Definitely not as successful as GOW/Spiderman. But yeah comparing direct sales figures of these two games also doesn't give the clear picture as to how popular a game is - which is what Ank did in his original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 44 minutes ago, Sach4life said: What applies to Xbox? It doesn't matter if it is xbox or PS, point is that game sales wont increase the same way system sales would increase. Hence, saying that games like Halo or Forza would have sold the same way Spider man or God Of War did had Xbox sales increased isn't entirely correct. That is the point I am making. Not to forget, likes of Halo doesn't hold anywhere close to the cache it used to hold is one of the reasons why Xbox didnt sell as much anyway. Nothing is in isolation Sony first party titles are always bundled with consoles, inflating their sales. You bundle every xbox sold with a copy of Halo Infinite and voila, 50 million sales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Sony first party titles are always bundled with consoles, inflating their sales. They are never bundled for free…..unless you talk about Ratchet&C 2016 now. Xbox bundled it for free quite a lot. Old gen console warriors always highlighted this debate back in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 35 minutes ago, AnK said: Dude this argument falls flat the very moment you consider that Halo 2 sold close to 10m on an install base of just 20m lifetime How does it fall flat exactly ? Halo 2 was extremely successful - sales wise and popularity wise . Now if Xbox had a install base of 100 mil then yes I agree it won't have sold 50 mil . But yeah sales won't have stayed flat . And then yes it would have been termed even more successful. 39 minutes ago, AnK said: If someone buys PS for Spider-Man & also plays FIFA….his FIFA friend will buy PS despite him having no interest in Spider-Man or GoW. Sure . But that doesn't every new system sold after a certain threshold is purchased by a casual gamer who doesn't play GOW/Halo . Please talk with facts and not what you think happens. If you have actual stats as to how many users play only COD/FIFA/F2P games then do share . 41 minutes ago, AnK said: One simply can’t bind the success of a game on its platform instal base. Actually you can . If a platform has a small install base and is still able to get majority of those to Spend Real Money on it then yes the game has done well . Yes exclusives do influence sales of console and this is where Halo 5 failed but that doesn't mean game was not successful. There were lots of reasons for people not buying xbox one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sach4life Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Sony first party titles are always bundled with consoles, inflating their sales. You bundle every xbox sold with a copy of Halo Infinite and voila, 50 million sales. I believe you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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radicaldude Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Vaibhavp said: Sony first party titles are always bundled with consoles, inflating their sales. You bundle every xbox sold with a copy of Halo Infinite and voila, 50 million sales. You don't even need an xbox to play first party titles now. That should means halo infinite should sell more units than the hardware itself (if it indeed is the game of the generation as you claim it to be.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Tigre Chino Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hardcore ponies are buying it full price apparently, they must be doing something right. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer_adi Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 hours ago, Assassins Creed said: What happened to @gamer_adi Xbots ne paisa dena band kar diya or Ponies gave supari Bhai, been travelling past couple of weeks, only returned yesterday from Mumbai, was tired and gonna wait before resuming sh*t-posting,but this radical-guy 3 hours ago, radicaldude said: Came back from his og profile when unbanned. Ye le, tera twitter level ka post, meri taraf se...abhi itna hi energy hai... PONY re PONY tera rang kaisa? PONY re PONY tera rang kaisa? Jaisa SONY kahe waisa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quixote_1989 Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Vaibhavp said: How is PS5 Digital better when -No availability -Overpriced subscription service -No day one first party games unless you shell out 5k per game and keep it forever. Get disc model unless you have specific requirements like me. First point is likely valid. But the other two aren't. Subscription is not the be all & end all. And games do not stop existing after Day 1. Once a game eventually drops in price, a digital PS5 owner can purchase and play it with same performace/fidelity as in the physical edition PS5. Same cannot be said for Series S Edited May 9, 2022 by quixote_1989 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer_adi Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 week break, and SONY did one more palti in between, hadh hai re bhai paltigiri kaa... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaiKO Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) This thread is for shitposting.... So I'll shitpost. From RANDOM Twitterendus.....Just like some fanboys. Edited May 9, 2022 by SaiKO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted May 9, 2022 Report Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, quixote_1989 said: First point is likely valid. But the other two aren't. Subscription is not the be all & end all. And games do not stop existing after Day 1. Once a game eventually drops in price, a digital PS5 owner can purchase and play it with same performace/fidelity as in the physical edition PS5. Same cannot be said for Series S Just get a disc PS5, that's the point. Series S let's you play different games so not directly comparable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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