TRMNTR Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, radicaldude said: An enhanced airport is a dlc or a microtransaction? You don't know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 A microtransaction masqueraded as a dlc/mod, so that extra $$$ could be justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psinide Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 A microtransaction masqueraded as a dlc/mod, so that extra $$$ could be justified. Most of the airports, planes available on FS Marketplace are not from MS. The ecosystem there is comparable to app stores, MS need to spend effort to ensure quality and content meets the compliances and take a cut from the sales. The marketplace on PC is thriving, and if it slowly gets ported to the consoles, it's a big win for us consumers. And as far as the editions for FS go - it's so casual players who don't want a whole plethora of planes/airports can still have a decent amount without paying for everything. If I'm not mistaken, X-Plane has a similar tiered system to add planes/airports/mods. Serious simmers are interested in different aircrafts and can get them if they want to, at a premium. FS world updates are free updates and they keep enhancing the globe small sections at a time. Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 12 minutes ago, psinide said: Most of the airports, planes available on FS Marketplace are not from MS. The ecosystem there is comparable to app stores, MS need to spend effort to ensure quality and content meets the compliances and take a cut from the sales. The marketplace on PC is thriving, and if it slowly gets ported to the consoles, it's a big win for us consumers. And as far as the editions for FS go - it's so casual players who don't want a whole plethora of planes/airports can still have a decent amount without paying for everything. If I'm not mistaken, X-Plane has a similar tiered system to add planes/airports/mods. Serious simmers are interested in different aircrafts and can get them if they want to, at a premium. FS world updates are free updates and they keep enhancing the globe small sections at a time. Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 8k for the entire experience. Wonder how much they'll actually charge for the entire halo infinite experience.. and how much theyll actually release via gp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psinide Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 8k for the entire experience. Wonder how much they'll actually charge for the entire halo infinite experience.. and how much theyll actually release via gp. 8k is for serious simmers. My wife is a pilot mate, she said having FS would have been a good educational tool during her training as it is a great visual aid. So for people who are aspiring pilots or serious simmers, 8k is worth it. It depends on the demographic and how people perceive the value. You can't generalize it To draw a parallel - i spend ~6k on Fifa every year for the ultimate edition since it gives benefits for FUT, which is the game mode i exclusively play. Someone who only plays career mode may only spend 4k on the standard edition and still enjoy his 'entire experience' Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, psinide said: 8k is for serious simmers. My wife is a pilot mate, she said having FS would have been a good educational tool during her training as it is a great visual aid. So for people who are aspiring pilots or serious simmers, 8k is worth it. It depends on the demographic and how people perceive the value. You can't generalize it To draw a parallel - i spend ~6k on Fifa every year for the ultimate edition since it gives benefits for FUT, which is the game mode i exclusively play. Someone who only plays career mode may only spend 4k on the standard edition and still enjoy his 'entire experience' Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk So campaign will stay on GP forever and MP is free. I guess Shawn Layden is correct in his analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psinide Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 So campaign will stay on GP forever and MP is free. I guess Shawn Layden is correct in his analysis. I'm not worried about how sustainable the model is or if MS will make or lose money, for me it's a great value proposition. If I get to play AAA games from MS 1st/2nd party studios for 'free' (I've stacked 3 yrs using the xbl gold method) I win, don't really care if MS or Sony do, cos billion and trillion dollar conglomerates don't need a keyboard warrior like me to validate their business modelsSent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, psinide said: I'm not worried about how sustainable the model is or if MS will make or lose money, for me it's a great value proposition. If I get to play AAA games from MS 1st/2nd party studios for 'free' (I've stacked 3 yrs using the xbl gold method) I win, don't really care if MS or Sony do, cos billion and trillion dollar conglomerates don't need a keyboard warrior like me to validate their business models Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk GP subscribers to Spencer in few years:- Edited August 4, 2021 by radicaldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, radicaldude said: GP subscribers to Spencer in few years:- Woh din dekhne se pehle ban mat ho jaana. ? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psinide Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 GP subscribers to Spencer in few years:- Cool story broSent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrIzAliD Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 16 minutes ago, psinide said: I'm not worried about how sustainable the model is or if MS will make or lose money, for me it's a great value proposition. If I get to play AAA games from MS 1st/2nd party studios for 'free' (I've stacked 3 yrs using the xbl gold method) I win, don't really care if MS or Sony do, cos billion and trillion dollar conglomerates don't need a keyboard warrior like me to validate their business models Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk this is what matters... nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Tigre Chino Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 24 minutes ago, psinide said: I'm not worried about how sustainable the model is or if MS will make or lose money, for me it's a great value proposition. If I get to play AAA games from MS 1st/2nd party studios for 'free' (I've stacked 3 yrs using the xbl gold method) I win, don't really care if MS or Sony do, cos billion and trillion dollar conglomerates don't need a keyboard warrior like me to validate their business models Sent from my SM-G998B using Tapatalk Some enjoy actually playing games at a great price, others enjoy debating the macro-economic implications of gamepass on modern society. It has something for everyone. Truly a revolutionary product. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, El Tigre Chino said: Some enjoy actually playing games at a great price, others enjoy debating the macro-economic implications of gamepass on modern society. It has something for everyone. Truly a revolutionary product. Service.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 26 minutes ago, radicaldude said: GP subscribers to Spencer in few years:- Even if GP fails in future or gets scrapped by MS for whatever reason, you have to admit, right now it's excellent value for money and definitely worth the price. As for few years in future, who knows maybe a rogue asteroid will hit earth and none of this will be relevant 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, gecko89 said: Even if GP fails in future or gets scrapped by MS for whatever reason, you have to admit, right now it's excellent value for money and definitely worth the price. As for few years in future, who knows maybe a rogue asteroid will hit earth and none of this will be relevant Agree. Great value once aaa titles launch on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Agree. Great value once aaa titles launch on it. Even without the next gen exclusives it's great value . Something you know but would never admit . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0verlord Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 Do you like Gamepass? This is the same question as - Do you like money? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Krazyniks said: Even without the next gen exclusives it's great value . Something you know but would never admit . No,without next gen content which is promised it’s not great value if you are buying hardware along with it,just for it IMO It has no other value & the 58k total cost is too much for indies,old AAA & new AA it is offering right now So if someone who wants true next gen right now ,buying PS5 makes more sense & instead of investing additional 58k upfront for which he can easily buy same games at dirt cheap on his convenience & wish list So things like Halo,ForzaH & specially Starfield is absolutely necessary to make sense out of it for these ppl Edited August 4, 2021 by AnK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted August 4, 2021 Report Share Posted August 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, AnK said: No,without next gen content which is promised it’s not great value if you are buying hardware along with it,just for it IMO It has no other value & the 58k total cost is too much for indies,old AAA & new AA it is offering right now So if someone who wants true next gen right now ,buying PS5 makes more sense & instead of investing additional 58k upfront for which he can easily buy same games at dirt cheap on his convenience & wish list So things like Halo,ForzaH & specially Starfield is absolutely necessary to make sense out of it for these ppl Can we play halo infinites MP without subscribing to GP? I mean will it appear as a f2p on steam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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