Vaibhavp Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: Now imagine a world where you have no choice but stay put with such scammers & have no other option but to keep paying subscription coz there is no Playstation or Nintendo to feed you GoW or Zelda. If Sony and Nintendo go away, it will be from their own doing. MS isn't even trying to take away their marketshare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, gecko89 said: Dude lies out of his nose at game interviews, why would this be any different. Have you seen this informational video.. This is a meme, not an informational video. At the end, music even changes to vocal version, which means video creator is grateful for what Todd has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, AnK said: Ask that to ppl whom he tried to sell Crackdown 3’s cloud computing based multiplayer. Now imagine a world where you have no choice but stay put with such scammers & have no other option but to keep paying subscription coz there is no Playstation or Nintendo to feed you GoW or Zelda. Damn.. MS gonna finish playstation and Nintendo😂 Even @vaibhav couldn’t come up with this weird take 😂 what are you smoking 😂 Edited June 20, 2023 by hsk_colossus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said: what are you smoking 😂 Certainly not laughing gas which you are on most of the time. Explains teary eyes too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 thank you cheap xbots for not buying games Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 5 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said: Damn.. MS gonna finish playstation and Nintendo😂 Even @vaibhav couldn’t come up with this weird take 😂 what are you smoking 😂 WTH No one interested in gaming would predict anything like that. I am looking forward to playing on next Switch and some PS games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 minute ago, AnK said: Certainly not laughing gas which you are on most of the time. Explains teary eyes too. No need for laughing gas.. your replies are too funny.. “Ms gonna finish off Sony and Nintendo 😂” Great analysis again from you 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: This is a meme, not an informational video. At the end, music even changes to vocal version, which means video creator is grateful for what Todd has done. Lol, it's made of the lies Todd has told over the years, from Skyrim to Fallout 76. It provides information about some of the lies he's spewed. And memes exist because he has a record of lying, and that hasn't changed til now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 so wait even their mid gen refresh console can’t run starfield at 60? LOOOOOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiealot Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, hsk_colossus said: Like they jacked up the prices of games to 70 dollars ? Price increase is gonna happen everywhere.. Let the customer decide which model they like.. if people like the sub model they will subscribe to it.. if not, we will be back paying for games.. Its MS money if they wanna throw it around, I am cool with it 😂.. only unpaid shill care about what profit Ms or Sony bring 😂 M not a shill dude. I'm not concerned how much profit MS or Sony makes. But I'm concerned about its impact on game development. People just don't go back to paying for games. Consumer mentality isn't like that. They'll always wanna pay the same. Just like how $70 still hasn't had mainstream acceptance. So what will devs have to do? Include more "creative" ways of monetization like micro transactions and using "games as a service" model. And we know how bad that sh*t is. I'd rather pay $70 for a good game. MS has always been notorious for just throwing money at their problem, buying other great companies and IPs and running them in the ground. Its happened before (Nokia, Zune, Rare, 343) and it'll happen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
idiealot Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, hsk_colossus said: Edited June 20, 2023 by idiealot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamos Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, AnK said: What is the exact price of this bundle. Without knowing that we can’t conclude that it’s same as free distribution. Not free distribution ofc. Will be exactly like buying 2 years of sub at full price. But this indicates the general shift towards subscription services. It’s where the money is for companies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, idiealot said: M not a shill dude. I'm not concerned how much profit MS or Sony makes. But I'm concerned about its impact on game development. People just don't go back to paying for games. Consumer mentality isn't like that. They'll always wanna pay the same. Just like how $70 still hasn't had mainstream acceptance. So what will devs have to do? Include more "creative" ways of monetization like micro transactions and using "games as a service" model. And we know how bad that sh*t is. I'd rather pay $70 for a good game. MS has always been notorious for just throwing money at their problem, buying other great companies and IPs and running them in the ground. Its happened before (Nokia, Zune, Rare, 343) and it'll happen again. don’t throw logical arguments at xcult. They’re delusional gamepass subscribers who don’t appreciate quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Subscription service =\= Free Distribution. Offering HorizonFW for $70 day 1 & then on a $99 subscription on day 730 can certainly not equate to throwing away Starfield with free codes on subways/chips/candies/GameNights. The whole point is that M$ is trying to penetrate market with unsustainable strategies that others can’t compete with. No wonder regulators are giving them a hard time & they are having to literally threaten nations to pull it off!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, idiealot said: Because the model isn't sustainable. MS is paying out of their own pockets to publishers to have AAA titles on gamepass. In the long run, they gonna either jack up the price which will defeat its value proposition or stop having AAA games. Look what has happened to Netflix now. Unlike Netflix, MS is trillion dollar company with multiple source of revenue. Im sure they know what works and what doesn't work for them. None of us here know how gamepass model works and how much revenue it makes. We all just trying to become arm chair analyst and coming up with all these different theories related to gamepass just to criticize it. In my personal opinion Gamepass is good for consumers. Now whether its good for industry or devs? I do not know and i also dont care. People who work in industry will figure out what works best for them. Its not my job as consumer to start showing fake concern over what's happening in industry on a video game forums just to fuel consolewar. If game pass or any other service offering me quality new games at cheap price then i will support it regardless of the platform. Iam excited for Starfield but im gonna play using GP. I dont care if Starfield is a flop or not making enough money coz of GP. Its MS headache not mine. And Xbox made decent money last fiscal year as per this website even when they had no games, so i guess they doing fine for now https://exputer.com/news/industry/xbox-more-revenue-than-nintendo/#:~:text=Its 2nd quarter was the,billion in the same period. Edited June 20, 2023 by Kazarka 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, idiealot said: M not a shill dude. I'm not concerned how much profit MS or Sony makes. But I'm concerned about its impact on game development. People just don't go back to paying for games. Consumer mentality isn't like that. They'll always wanna pay the same. Just like how $70 still hasn't had mainstream acceptance. So what will devs have to do? Include more "creative" ways of monetization like micro transactions and using "games as a service" model. And we know how bad that sh*t is. I'd rather pay $70 for a good game. MS has always been notorious for just throwing money at their problem, buying other great companies and IPs and running them in the ground. Its happened before (Nokia, Zune, Rare, 343) and it'll happen again. Gaas isn’t sh*t.. poorly implement Gaas is sh*t.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 hours ago, idiealot said: Because the model isn't sustainable. MS is paying out of their own pockets to publishers to have AAA titles on gamepass. In the long run, they gonna either jack up the price which will defeat its value proposition or stop having AAA games. Look what has happened to Netflix now. Prices increase for everything my friend just look at your 70$ games. As for the model isn’t sustainable please tell that to HBO,Hulu ,spotify etc. Subscription is the future whether you want it or not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, Kazarka said: In my personal opinion Gamepass is good for consumers. Now whether its good for industry or devs? I do not know and i also dont care. People who work in industry will figure out what works best for them. Its not my job as consumer to start showing fake concern over what's happening in industry on a video game forums just to fuel consolewar. If game pass or any other service offering me quality new games at cheap price then i will support it regardless of the platform. Iam excited for Starfield but im gonna play using GP. I dont care if Starfield is a flop or not making enough money coz of GP. Its MS headache not mine. You are free to have your opinion. But you shouldn’t cuss others who think otherwise including regulators who are literally being abused on social spaces. If I think that this is a monopolistic behaviour & bad for the long term creativity & consumer interests in this medium….one shouldn’t start getting personal with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 Diablo 4 is GaaS Warframe is GaaS Destiny 2 is GaaS There are plenty of example of quality GaaS games. It all comes down to devs and how they implement it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted June 20, 2023 Report Share Posted June 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: Prices increase for everything my friend just look at your 70$ games. As for the model isn’t sustainable please tell that to HBO,Hulu ,spotify etc. Subscription is the future whether you want it or not . yeah but OTT subscription is a lot more accessible because of mobile phones. Gamepass isn’t on mobile yet. It’s the penetration/ reach of the medium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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