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Also, it’s interesting how MS has not mentioned their subscription count in the longest time. When they were giving it away for a $ or in snacks, the No was at 25M.

 

The last I heard, it has fallen to 18M.

 

I guess they’re not really gaining subscribers 

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2 minutes ago, RV1709 said:


yeah but OTT subscription is a lot more accessible because of mobile phones. Gamepass isn’t on mobile yet. It’s the penetration/ reach of the medium.

Ya when netflix started blockbluster laughed at their business model too ,nobody knows what will happen in another 10 years.

 

So far so good ,i am happy and saving money so dont really care. It really is on MS where they can take take this sub ,if it continues to grow it means we are eating good but if it dies atleast i made full use of it.

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8 minutes ago, RV1709 said:

Also, it’s interesting how MS has not mentioned their subscription count in the longest time. When they were giving it away for a $ or in snacks, the No was at 25M.

 

The last I heard, it has fallen to 18M.

 

I guess they’re not really gaining subscribers 

Let this abk talk wrap up and they will start giving the subscribers nos again.

Also last year was a big let down so doubt they grew much.

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58 minutes ago, idiealot said:

 

MS has always been notorious for just throwing money at their problem, buying other great companies and IPs and running them in the ground. Its happened before (Nokia, Zune, Rare, 343) and it'll happen again.

 

What about Ubisoft? 

 

They are also pivoting to subscription services. 

 

Rare has created a successful GAAS title. Running into ground :giggle:

 

Same for 343i. Stop reading stuff online and actually play the game

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3 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

Ya when netflix started blockbluster laughed at their business model too ,nobody knows what will happen in another 10 years.

 

So far so good ,i am happy and saving money so dont really care. It really is on MS where they can take take this sub ,if it continues to grow it means we are eating good but if it dies atleast i made full use of it.


saving money at the cost of what?  Didn’t MS churn out more games when they charged you for it? The 360 era, Xbox one launch. Now what? It’s half baked games or indies that need a platform.   The same has happened with cod. Since they stopped charging you for DLC, they’ve slowed down their dlc drops / giving remakes of old maps. This is the trade off that one can expect being on a sub / being a GAAS title - drip content 

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18 minutes ago, AnK said:


You are free to have your opinion.

 

But you shouldn’t cuss others who think otherwise including regulators who are literally being abused on social spaces. 
 

If I think that this is a monopolistic behaviour & bad for the long term creativity & consumer interests in this medium….one shouldn’t start getting personal with me.

I don't goto social spaces and i also don't cuss people out over videao game related topics. Im tired of hearing about ABK deal and at this  point I dont care if it goes through or not. 

 

And yes, you have full right to have your opinion, im no one to tell you otherwise. That said i still believe as a consumer you should think about what's best for you personally than worrying about how much Sony or MS making every fiscal year.

 

 

 

 

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Netflix model was never Day 1 model.

 

Quite foolish mistake ppl make when they compare the Netflix Vs Blockbuster scenario.

 

 

Netflix overtook Blockbuster purely because it was moving ahead with technology.

Netflix never could & still can’t compete with theateres.

 

f**k even Disney after gobbling up Marvel,Lucas,Fox & what not still is not foolish enough to release AAA blockbuster movies direct to it’s service even at an unimaginably high price.

 

 

Some things are just stupid,foolish & unsustainable.

 

The game plan in GamesPass’s case is to drive the competition out of the market & it quite visibly even succeeded once Stadia left.

 

Ultimate goal is to drive Playstation,Steam & Nintendo out to.

 

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7 minutes ago, RV1709 said:


saving money at the cost of what?  Didn’t MS churn out more games when they charged you for it? The 360 era, Xbox one launch. Now what? It’s half baked games or indies that need a platform.   The same has happened with cod. Since they stopped charging you for DLC, they’ve slowed down their dlc drops / giving remakes of old maps. This is the trade off that one can expect being on a sub / being a GAAS title - drip content 

Apart from redfall all 1st party games released this generation have been rated really really well. I am not even counting the 3rd party day one games . There have been some let downs though from 3rd party though.

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7 minutes ago, AnK said:

Netflix model was never Day 1 model.

 

Quite foolish mistake ppl make when they compare the Netflix Vs Blockbuster scenario.

 

 

Netflix overtook Blockbuster purely because it was moving ahead with technology.

Netflix never could & still can’t compete with theateres.

 

f**k even Disney after gobbling up Marvel,Lucas,Fox & what not still is not foolish enough to release AAA blockbuster movies direct to it’s service even at an unimaginably high price.

 

 

Some things are just stupid,foolish & unsustainable.

 

The game plan in GamesPass’s case is to drive the competition out of the market & it quite visibly even succeeded once Stadia left.

 

Ultimate goal is to drive Playstation,Steam & Nintendo out to.

 

What was sony’s games plan last generation? Didnt they want to do the same to xbox with all the money hats ?

 

Using their market dominance to keep games off of gamespass this generation? If you think sony keeps the competition healthy then you are mistaken.

Also if the ABK deal passes games will be on ps and other platforms so there is nothing to worry about. Ms is spending 70 billion obviously so you cant really complain about GP releases , ms has promised abk games on ps subs too if they are ready to spend.

 

The only reason ponies complain is because sony arent putting the games day 1 and you have to spend full money .I see the excitement when ps plus additions are announced even if they are old games.

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1st Party AAA by M$ this gen:-

 

Flight Sim

Gears Tactics 

Halo (for the Infinith time)

Psycho 2 (available on PS day1)

Age IV (not on Xbox lol)

DeathLoop(not on Xbox lol)

Forza H5 (for the Infinith time)

GhostWire(not on Xbox lol)

Grounded

Minecraft legends(available on PS day1) 

Redfall(glad it’s not available on PS)

 

If one considers this mixed & matched on convenience line up something to boast about where most aren’t even exclusive or in some cases not even available on Xbox the console for the longest period due to being in post production stage at the time of acquisition.

Well then what can one say :good: 

 

& don’t even get me started about the third & second party deals done by M$ :rofl: 


The Medium

Scorn

Crossfire

High On Life

 

& what not crap 💩 

 

 

Even XBone generation had better content in first two years compared to this awful scenario.

 

But yes future is bright with 23 good-great studios.

 

Next generation of console war will be a good fight between PS & XB if & only if M$ is regulated properly with its buying spree.

 

Otherwise PS has no chance.

 

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5 minutes ago, AnK said:

1st Party AAA by M$ this gen:-

 

Flight Sim

Gears Tactics 

Halo (for the Infinith time)

Psycho 2 (available on PS day1)

Age IV (not on Xbox lol)

DeathLoop(not on Xbox lol)

Forza H5 (for the Infinith time)

GhostWire(not on Xbox lol)

Grounded

Minecraft legends(available on PS day1) 

Redfall(glad it’s not available on PS)

 

If one considers this mixed & matched on convenience line up something to boast about where most aren’t even exclusive or in some cases not even available on Xbox the console for the longest period due to being in post production stage at the time of acquisition.

Well then what can one say :good: 

 

& don’t even get me started about the third & second party deals done by M$ :rofl: 


The Medium

Scorn

Crossfire

High On Life

 

& what not crap 💩 

 

 

Even XBone generation had better content in first two years compared to this awful scenario.

 

But yes future is bright with 23 good-great studios.

 

Next generation of console war will be a good fight between PS & XB if & only if M$ is regulated properly with its buying spree.

 

Otherwise PS has no chance.

 

We are back to xbox is not a monopoly right? :giggle:
 

you change you statement every post dude, what a waste of time .
 

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When did I say Xbox is a monopoly already?!?

 

Dhyan se padh gyan chakshu khol ke:- 

 

 

3 hours ago, AnK said:
3 hours ago, AnK said:

 

3 hours ago, hsk_colossus said:

Ank - Ms is trying it’s hands in monopoly of gaming

also Ank - Xbox sucks has always sucked and they always be third because they don’t have creativity 😂

 


 

*Fixed*


 

 

Owning just Bethesda & few other mid tear AAA studios can’t be monopoly.

 

Not stopping here & gobbling up more would lead to.

 

Specially Activision-Blizzard esque.

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43 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

We are back to xbox is not a monopoly right? :giggle:
 

you change you statement every post dude, what a waste of time .
 


 

 

it’s like Schrödinger equation.. it’s a monopoly and not a monopoly at the same time 

😂

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3 hours ago, Kazarka said:

 

3 hours ago, Kazarka said:

In my personal opinion Gamepass is good for consumers. Now whether its good for industry or devs? I do not know and i also dont care. People who work in industry will figure out what works best for them. Its not my job as consumer to start showing fake concern over what's happening in industry on a video game forums just to fuel consolewar. If game pass or any other service offering me quality new games at cheap price then i will support it regardless of the platform. 

 

You are right. People who work in the game industry have to figure out a lot of things themselves. But consumers also have responsibility. Everytime a company does something predatory or releases a basic af game, there's always an argument that they get away with it cuz customers allow them to. They just act like mindless consumers and force other devs to use the same tactics cuz everyone's gotta earn. And then everyone's like "Games aren't what they used to be anymore"

 

It all starts with consumers. Period.

 

And my concern isn't fake. Nor am I interested in console wars. I have problems with Sony too.

 

 

 

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Let’s be honest, the only reason gamepass exists is because Xbox knew they can’t match sony on quality. This was their knight in shining armour- offer 1000s of mid games on a sub. It will always attract the price conscious consumer.  Throw in 1-2 good games in a sea of average to poor games.

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