Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 hour ago, AnK said: 3m sold in 3 days & 5m+ recorded players in less than a month at a full MRP of $70. 5 million players include demo players. That's how they reached 13% players were playing it. 1 hour ago, AnK said: It’s already coming out on PC & wonder if it would even manage to run on Series🥔 . & how many numbers would’ve been brought on the table at $70 by Xbots for the design vision to be cut back to fit the🥔 Zelda TOTK runs on Switch. Starfield is gonna be on Series S. God of War 3 was on PS3. About time this stuff stops. Makes no sense. 1 hour ago, AnK said: Saying it didn’t meet expectations doesn’t mean the entire company cutbacks were because of FF16 It's coming from company head. They made sweeping changes in franchise to capture wider demographic. Not to merely break even. Of course they must have much higher expectations from both Forspoken and this title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 27 minutes ago, AnK said: All the current players who feel it would have been a bad Idea to compromise the current grandeur design of FF16 to fit it in the Series🥔 for a few hundred thousand more first month sales:- I never said xbox ,maybe a simultaneous PC release would have been better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 1 minute ago, Vaibhavp said: 5 million players include demo players. That's how they reached 13% players were playing it. What is the source of this Information?! It wasn’t specified in any of the quoted statements. Unless mentioned what reason do you have to believe it included the Demo?!? 3 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Zelda TOTK runs on Switch. Starfield is gonna be on Series S. God of War 3 was on PS3. Yes but I am talking about FF16. A game that brings PS5 to it’s knees. What is even the point counting different games of different specifications & even of different eras?!? Also please share Starfield footage running on SeriesS if you have seen. Or even raw SeriesX footage for that matter. So far nothing was specified what rig was the reveal running on. 7 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: It's coming from company head. They made sweeping changes in franchise to capture wider demographic. Not to merely break even. Of course they must have much higher expectations from both Forspoken and this title. What I quoted is also an official company statement. They are doubling down on AAA rather than cutting it. Forespoken was obviously a failure & the studio got shut. What reason would anyone have to bring FF16 as the defacto reason for the revenue cut down is beyond me. Saying it didn’t meet internal expectations doesn’t mean it was a failure like Forespoken. We don’t even know what their expectations were or if they were realistic to begin with. 13% in first month nets around $364m & considering Sony had an exclusivity deal they paid a large amount of their royalties to SE aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 22 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: I never said xbox ,maybe a simultaneous PC release would have been better. That’s just a 6 month window as specified by Sony. It will sell as much on PC as it would have with a simultaneous release. & If it isn’t ready by 6months then mathematically it didn’t make any sense to hold PS5 release. Edited August 7 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purana Khiladi Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 23 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: 5 million players include demo players. This isnt Xbox title bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 2 minutes ago, Purana Khiladi said: This isnt Xbox title bro. Seriously!! That’s what I had in mind when he said that Xbots think everyone is counting the free downloads in their investor documents now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 7 minutes ago, AnK said: Seriously!! That’s what I had in mind when he said that Xbots think everyone is counting the free downloads in their investor documents now 11 minutes ago, Purana Khiladi said: This isnt Xbox title bro. Read ampere analysis article instead of jumping to conclusions based on short hand provided in tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 https://www.ampereanalysis.com/insight/final-fantasy-xvi-by-far-the-most-played-ps5-title-in-japan-in-launch-month *Note: The June FF16 data includes user activity for the demo, which preceded the full launch of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 2 hours ago, AnK said: FF16 on PS5 was such a disaster that they have decided to focus more on big budget AAA games :- 3m sold in 3 days & 5m+ recorded players in less than a month at a full MRP of $70. Wow what a disaster!!! Focused strategy is a good thing. It means no longer will we get baby games to appeal to non gamers / gamers in same title. Next Final Fantasy would likely be hardcore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 3 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: https://www.ampereanalysis.com/insight/final-fantasy-xvi-by-far-the-most-played-ps5-title-in-japan-in-launch-month *Note: The June FF16 data includes user activity for the demo, which preceded the full launch of the game. This is just June data & it released in last week of June. So this whole 13% is worthless it seems. We need sales numbers from June 22 onwards. So right now the 3m+ in 3 days is the only valid number we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 5 minutes ago, AnK said: This is just June data & it released in last week of June. So this whole 13% is worthless it seems. We need sales numbers from June 22 onwards. So right now the 3m+ in 3 days is the only valid number we have. Correct. 3 million is still pretty good. It means it's moving towards breaking even pretty fast. Though Final Fantasy release is a once a generation event so I imagine they must have much higher expectations than that. I mean, even Callisto Protocol was expected to sell 4 million in first month. Was considered a failure at 2 million. Edited August 7 by Vaibhavp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Correct. 3 million is still pretty good. It means it's moving towards breaking even pretty fast. Though Final Fantasy release is a once a generation event so I imagine they must have much higher expectations than that. FF15 & FF7 with a much bigger install base still sold 3-3.5m in first few days. Both ended up selling 5-6m in first month. So FF16 was right on track…. As for expectations….it’s more of an overestimate for investor calls be it something as Grandeur as FF or a no name new IP like Callisto P. For Square Enix even the Tomb Raider trilogy didn’t meet expectations but still ended up making 3 games of the same. Case in point just because SquareE isn’t growing as it should doesn’t mean PS exclusivities are the sole reason They already tried their hand at going multiplatform with their Japanese games & that didn’t work either. Edited August 7 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 9 minutes ago, AnK said: For Square Enix even the Tomb Raider trilogy didn’t meet expectations but still ended up making 3 games of the same. That was BS. They never gelled with their western studios. Trilogy has sold 40 million overall. 11 minutes ago, AnK said: Case in point just because SquareE isn’t growing as it should doesn’t mean PS exclusivities are the sole reason They already tried their hand at going multiplatform with their Japanese games & that didn’t work either. It's not about growth. They are developing multiple titles and expected it to bring in more sales. Ultimately, exclusive or not, they need to make a game that makes you go, this is best game i have ever played. Like they used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 3 hours ago, triggr happy ss said: The massive install base still couldn’t make a difference ,maybe square needs to be realistic with its expectations or release on other devices . Mochi and posting incorrect information are best friends 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 Takashi has been outed consistently as unreliable. Said PS5 production cut, turned out it was wrong. Said VR2 sales are low, turned out higher and faster than PSVR. Said FF16 sales were bad, turns out it sold 3Mil over a week on PS5 alone. Not sure where he pulls his analysts from, or just making stuff up but hasn't been right about anything recently. He writes for Bloomberg, by is the complete opposite of Schrier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 18 minutes ago, Snake said: Mochi and posting incorrect information are best friends I wouldn’t believe square enix’s president too . So did he make the statement or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 (edited) 15 minutes ago, gecko89 said: Said FF16 sales were bad, turns out it sold 3Mil over a week on PS5 alone. . Not even a week….just First 3 days. Those are like Uncharted,TLOU & GoW esque Numbers & totally inline with previous two FF releases. I would be surprised if it didn’t reach 6 in the rest of the month & a half since. Forespoken was obviously a failure & maybe they are not growing enough in AA & mobile business. But putting everything on FF16 & it’s PS exclusivity is another level of misrepresentation Edited August 7 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 10 hours ago, triggr happy ss said: The massive install base still couldn’t make a difference ,maybe square needs to be realistic with its expectations or release on other devices . why didn’t this sell well though? Reviewed well enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 5 minutes ago, hsk_colossus said: why didn’t this sell well though? Reviewed well enough Sold well. PS5 has 40 million install base. So 3.3 million is pretty good. It just puts an upper ceiling to potential sales by making it a new console exclusive. Putting it on all systems would've easily pushed it to 5 million and they would've posted operating profit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 7 Report Share Posted August 7 I hope for the mental sanity of Xbots,Square releases till date sales of FF16 soon enough Or else poor guys will be stuck at first 3 days sales of 3.3m & autocratically keep believing that it just dropped to 0 after those 3 f**ckin days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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