AnK Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Sony didn’t lie when they said it. M$ forced Mojang & Double Fine to release inferior ports on PS5 in comparison to SX. Utterly shitty & lowly move as it wouldn’t have taken much to release native ports for PS5. Also historically Sony never declined inferior ports as it was completely comfortable with games like Bayonetta & Orange Box running at 30fps while 360 was running them at 60. They didn’t deny publishers a spot on their console based on visual parity. M$ has historically denied games on their platforms(Like Unreal Tournament 3,Final Fantasy 14 & Gension Impact)not Sony. I just can’t wait for M$ to drop official mandatory support for SeriesS just like they did with HD-DVD players & Kinnect in the past & laugh while saying… ”Told you so” “ahhhem” “AGAIN”!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, AnK said: Sony didn’t lie when they said it. M$ forced Mojang & Double Fine to release inferior ports on PS5 in comparison to SX. Utterly shitty & lowly move as it wouldn’t have taken much to release native ports for PS5. Also historically Sony never declined inferior ports as it was completely comfortable with games like Bayonetta & Orange Box running at 30fps while 360 was running them at 60. They didn’t deny publishers a spot on their console based on visual parity. MS might've done it. I dunno what goes behind the scenes. That's why I said parity clause is fine from both companies. 11 minutes ago, AnK said: I just can’t wait for M$ to drop official mandatory support for SeriesS just like they did with HD-DVD players & Kinnect in the past & laugh while saying… ”Told you so” “ahhhem” “AGAIN”!!! Series S is doing fine. Check Jedi Survivor and Remnant 2 ports. Both proper next gen titles. Am playing Remnant 2 myself and it looks and plays solid. I don't buy consoles to keep chugging for whole generation of 7-8 yrs. 5 years of support would be pretty satisfactory to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, AnK said: Sony didn’t lie when they said it. M$ forced Mojang & Double Fine to release inferior ports on PS5 in comparison to SX. Utterly shitty & lowly move as it wouldn’t have taken much to release native ports for PS5. Source ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: Source ? Lmao both Minecraft Dungeons & Psychonauts 2 didn’t release with a Native PS5 version. What more “source” you want?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 Phil tru gamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 9 hours ago, Vaibhavp said: Series S is doing fine. Check Jedi Survivor and Remnant 2 ports. Both proper next gen titles. Am playing Remnant 2 myself and it looks and plays solid. I don't buy consoles to keep chugging for whole generation of 7-8 yrs. 5 years of support would be pretty satisfactory to me. Why would I look at sub 900p 30fps locked games when I have a PS5. f**k 5 years within 2 years SeriesS stopped running games at promised 1440p nor 60fps either which way. It was always a disaster inception-ally,having to miss out the GOTY in that year for stupid reasons is a huge blunder & will go down in history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gamer_adi Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 39 minutes ago, AnK said: Why would I look at sub 900p 30fps locked games when I have a PS5. f**k 5 years within 2 years SeriesS stopped running games at promised 1440p nor 60fps either which way. It was always a disaster inception-ally,having to miss out the GOTY in that year for stupid reasons is a huge blunder & will go down in history. FF16 would like to have a word with you 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 11, 2023 Report Share Posted August 11, 2023 2 hours ago, AnK said: Why would I look at sub 900p 30fps locked games when I have a PS5. f**k 5 years within 2 years SeriesS stopped running games at promised 1440p nor 60fps either which way. It was always a disaster inception-ally,having to miss out the GOTY in that year for stupid reasons is a huge blunder & will go down in history. Bruh, PS5 is sub 720p and 600p at both 30 and 60 fps. It's not 900p at any of the modes. Developers are making right compromises on Series S. Wonder why Digital Foundry didn't zoom in and show how blurry Series X and PS5 versions are compared to Series S. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, gamer_adi said: FF16 would like to have a word with you That’s not Sub FullHD while running on 30fps. Only when it tries to lock itself at 60 in combat. SeriesS would have to go down to 240p or something if it ever tries that 4 hours ago, Vaibhavp said: Bruh, PS5 is sub 720p and 600p at both 30 and 60 fps. It's not 900p at any of the modes. Developers are making right compromises on Series S. Wonder why Digital Foundry didn't zoom in and show how blurry Series X and PS5 versions are compared to Series S. So you mean to say SS is not as week as it seems & SX & PS5 are the ones holding things back in reality Your own self created reality for self soothing Edited August 12, 2023 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Lo BC karlo baat….basic features present on racing sims since inception are missing because of bad memory & specs of the Potato 🥔 Another developers cutting out the most basic & important feature called “SplitScreen” from its product coz 🥔 can’t handle it!! But nahi…humari sasti aloo bhaji sabse mahaan,mat do tum humne gyaan!! Developers ki hai galti….Pappu aur team ne kiya hai mast hamesha kaam Damn gamer_adi is rubbing off on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 1 hour ago, AnK said: So you mean to say SS is not as week as it seems & SX & PS5 are the ones holding things back in reality Of course they are. Have you seen specs of RTX 4090? They all are potatoes. Series S is baby potato. PS5/Series X are normal potatoes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Of course they are. Have you seen specs of RTX 4090? They all are potatoes. Series S is baby potato. PS5/Series X are normal potatoes. Bingo!!! Now we are talking….so you admit that PS5 is holding back RTX 4090. If PS5/SX were the lowest denominator than they would hold RTX 4090 back. But now the baby potato is…which is bad for everyone. Before you jump to Steam Deck,no developer has any mandatory requirement to be Deck verified if they want run games on other PC’s with Steam OS or Launcher. Neither Nvidia nor AMD has made it mandatory for any developer to be minimally compatible to their lowest card on sale. Why the f**k M$ has made it mandatory & irritate & hold back entire industry. Anyway carry on with the debate with yourself now. Being the reason why old time Car Sim fans will miss out on some of the basic features standard since forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, AnK said: Bingo!!! Now we are talking….so you admit that PS5 is holding back RTX 4090. If PS5/SX were the lowest denominator than they would hold RTX 4090 back. But now the baby potato is…which is bad for everyone. Before you jump to Steam Deck,no developer has any mandatory requirement to be Deck verified if they want run games on other PC’s with Steam OS or Launcher. Neither Nvidia nor AMD has made it mandatory for any developer to be minimally compatible to their lowest card on sale. Why the f**k M$ has made it mandatory & irritate & hold back entire industry. Anyway carry on with the debate with yourself now. Being the reason why old time Car Sim fans will miss out on some of the basic features standard since forever. Why are we comparing pc graphics card and consoles? series s is weak no doubts there ,but you pay what you get for. Xbox should remove the MP parity clause and move ahead though. Also just to be clear ps5 is not as powerful as make it out to be ,nor is their anything legendary about the ssd. There are enough evidence with the 720p Ff16 and also the booting of games ,fast travelling etc. Also no quick resume which is hands down the most important feature of this generation is absent on ps. There are also enough handhelds like deck and ally which can be considered as lowest common denominator but is not coz that not the mentality PC gamers have ,its basically a console gamer mentality. Its just absurd to me that 4 years into the hardware generation and you have gotten just cross gen 1st party exclusives and you are more worried about the series s holding back the ps5 . Now please tell me how the ps4 is superior than the series S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 25 minutes ago, AnK said: Bingo!!! Now we are talking….so you admit that PS5 is holding back RTX 4090. If PS5/SX were the lowest denominator than they would hold RTX 4090 back. But now the baby potato is…which is bad for everyone. Before you jump to Steam Deck,no developer has any mandatory requirement to be Deck verified if they want run games on other PC’s with Steam OS or Launcher. Neither Nvidia nor AMD has made it mandatory for any developer to be minimally compatible to their lowest card on sale. Why the f**k M$ has made it mandatory & irritate & hold back entire industry. Anyway carry on with the debate with yourself now. Being the reason why old time Car Sim fans will miss out on some of the basic features standard since forever. I was following your logic. None of these boxes are holding anything back. It's developers budget/imagination etc. We are at a point where hardware is no longer a limiting factor. Even maximising a PS4/Xbox one hardware requires $200 million + budget. I will say this again, 2 of most ambitious games this year TOTK runs on Switch Starfield runs on Series S. Developers will have to make something more ambitious than these before they start complaining about hardware. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: Why are we comparing pc graphics card and consoles? series s is weak no doubts there ,but you pay what you get for. Xbox should remove the MP parity clause and move ahead though. Also just to be clear ps5 is not as powerful as make it out to be ,nor is their anything legendary about the ssd. There are enough evidence with the 720p Ff16 and also the booting of games ,fast travelling etc. Also no quick resume which is hands down the most important feature of this generation is absent on ps. There are also enough handhelds like deck and ally which can be considered as lowest common denominator but is not coz that not the mentality PC gamers have ,its basically a console gamer mentality. Its just absurd to me that 4 years into the hardware generation and you have gotten just cross gen 1st party exclusives and you are more worried about the series s holding back the ps5 . Now please tell me how the ps4 is superior than the series S a.)He was the one who brought graphics cards in the mix,not me b.)I already explained how Deck & other graphics cards are not lowest denominator,coz no one is forcing anyone to mandate them c.)FF16 is a technical marvel no doubt it drops to 720 when trying to lock 60 on PS5 & thank god it wasn’t held back by 🥔 or else those big a*s set pieces wouldn’t have been possible. d.)DemonSouls,AstroBot,Returnal,R&C & SM2 are all first party & Next Gen only. e.)If ppl talk from their a*s instead of brain then just no point arguing or even talking. Edited August 12, 2023 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: TOTK runs on Switch Starfield runs on Series S. Developers will have to make something more ambitious than these before they start complaining about hardware. Ha toh ttheek hai na bhai,those developers wanted to & they are doing it. But why force others who don’t want to limit themselves. Baldur’s Gate is an equally if not more ambitious & you continuously putting the blame on them & disregarding their work is disrespectful. As I said in your personal case not getting to play the most ambitious & well received game in the genre you like,serves you well!! Edited August 12, 2023 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Might pick it up ,400$ is the right price for this 720 @60 fps machine 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 Making fun of PS5 while not even waiting to see what exact resolution Starfield is running on SX while “targeting 30” & even going ahead & counting it in 96-97 metacritic race & labelling “ambitious marvel” well ahead of actual hands on previews (if we are even getting one) let alone release is sort of history repeating itself…….again!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said: Might pick it up ,400$ is the right price for this 720 @60 fps machine 😂 The hell is that bump in lower right side? Digital all the way for looks alone, this is that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted August 12, 2023 Report Share Posted August 12, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, AnK said: Lmao both Minecraft Dungeons & Psychonauts 2 didn’t release with a Native PS5 version. What more “source” you want?!? https://www.ign.com/articles/minecraft-doesnt-have-a-ps5-version-because-sony-didnt-send-microsoft-dev-kits-phil-spencer-says Dungeons got native ps5 version. Its the game in development before 2020 missed native version at launch. Edited August 12, 2023 by Kazarka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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