PlayStation vs Xbox vs Nintendo thread

[RV1709]

https://www.thegamebusiness.com/p/the-indiana-jones-developer-has-a

 

the developer of Indiana jones says they have data which says people on game pass jump in for 5 mins and then drop out.

 

im wondering if this is an issue with subs vs buying games where when one buys they’re more committed to finish the game

 

 

 

 

[b!T]

42 minutes ago, RV1709 said:

the developer of Indiana jones says they have data which says people on game pass jump in for 5 mins and then drop out.

 

I am not sure whether people who does this will actually buy the game if gamepass was not there. I myself used to install and uninstall multiple games which i was vaguely interested in.

[AnK]

Day1 drop on Subscription can never be an option for premium content.

 

Be it movies,music or any form of entertainment.

 

Just look at the state of MCU for example since they started to focus on a Subscription.

[RV1709]

20 hours ago, b!T said:

 

I am not sure whether people who does this will actually buy the game if gamepass was not there. I myself used to install and uninstall multiple games which i was vaguely interested in.

So in essence it’s good for games that may not have complete confidence in sales or pull.  Which explains 80% games on Xbox 

[b!T]

6 minutes ago, RV1709 said:

So in essence it’s good for games that may not have complete confidence in sales or pull.  Which explains 80% games on Xbox 

 

Yes, of course. I don't follow enough on the monetary aspect of it, but gamepass does give visibility to some games which otherwise would have gone unnoticed. Quality of gamepass games is a hit or miss though.

 

 

[AnK]

Social media reels have given visibility to every Tom dick & harry.

 

Doesn’t mean they are actually celebrities.

 

 

[hope]

On 9/3/2025 at 6:22 PM, RV1709 said:

https://www.thegamebusiness.com/p/the-indiana-jones-developer-has-a

 

the developer of Indiana jones says they have data which says people on game pass jump in for 5 mins and then drop out.

 

im wondering if this is an issue with subs vs buying games where when one buys they’re more committed to finish the game

 

 

 

 

Exactly true. I downloaded diablo 4, played few minutes and un installed. Same with 10 other games even though they reviewed well. 

[AnK]

Problem is that ppl who otherwise would have paid an X amount depending on date of purchase from release won’t pay now either.

 

Every gamer has genre preferences much deeper than other forms of entertainments.

 

That’s what these game developers usually encash.

Some ppl won’t give a sh*t that COD is now on GamePass but for hardcore that is content worth $70.

 

For ppl who don’t give a sh*t suddenly won’t start giving a sh*t.

That’s how deep genre preferences are in gaming unlike Movies,Shows & Music.

 

They just don’t change on the fly.

[AnK]

 

 

[Zod]

On 8/31/2025 at 10:54 PM, triggr happy ss said:

DAMN

Full soon slate on Next Xbox Magnus and then ponies will commit suicide lol 

 

Ponies already panicking and searching game pass sucks articles desperately. 

 

 

Edited September 7, 2025 by Zod

[AnK]

A.) Full Slate is already on a windows PC ie.What Next Xbox will be.

 

B.)All industry personnel irrespective of their past association with M$ are sh*tting on GamePass….No one needs to find anything.

[Ne0]

On 9/6/2025 at 11:26 AM, AnK said:

 

 

For ppl who don’t give a sh*t suddenly won’t start giving a sh*t.

That’s how deep genre preferences are in gaming unlike Movies,Shows & Music.

 

They just don’t change on the fly.

That’s not universally true. I would have never played games like Clair:obscur or FF7: remake or Like a Dragon if not for gamepass/ps extra.  I played ff7: remake on PS extra and then bought FF16 and FF:rebirth as I loved that game. It entirely depends on the game. Sometimes you try a whole new genre and it suddenly clicks with you.  Subscription services like ps: extra/gamepass gives you this freedom to try and expand your horizon at a much lower cost.

[hope]

On 9/7/2025 at 3:30 PM, Zod said:

Full soon slate on Next Xbox Magnus and then ponies will commit suicide lol 

 

Ponies already panicking and searching game pass sucks articles desperately. 

 

 

Humko samajh mein nhi aata, jo jo tum support karta hai woh doob gaya phir tum high rehta hai. Konsa nasha hai bhai yeh 

[AnK]

10 hours ago, Ne0 said:

That’s not universally true. I would have never played games like Clair:obscur or FF7: remake or Like a Dragon if not for gamepass/ps extra.  I played ff7: remake on PS extra and then bought FF16 and FF:rebirth as I loved that game. It entirely depends on the game. Sometimes you try a whole new genre and it suddenly clicks with you.  Subscription services like ps: extra/gamepass gives you this freedom to try and expand your horizon at a much lower cost.

Games dropping few years later depending on popularity & potential to generate sales is just fine….never against it.

 

Even new studios who otherwise are not confident & can generate some production money through Subscription deals are also fine.

 

I am talking mostly about juggernaut franchises or mega budget projects by established studios dropping day1 on Subscriptions.

 

That makes absolute 0 sense & is evidently not healthy as repeated by Industry veterans.

The risk of loosing day1 money by potential buyers far outweighs the potential of establishing new userbase.

[Ne0]

46 minutes ago, AnK said:

Games dropping few years later depending on popularity & potential to generate sales is just fine….never against it.

 

Even new studios who otherwise are not confident & can generate some production money through Subscription deals are also fine.

 

I am talking mostly about juggernaut franchises or mega budget projects by established studios dropping day1 on Subscriptions.

 

That makes absolute 0 sense & is evidently not healthy as repeated by Industry veterans.

The risk of loosing day1 money by potential buyers far outweighs the potential of establishing new userbase.

Day 1 releases are for attracting new users/increasing user count.  Actually on paper, it makes sense for companies who own the said platforms because subscription is recurring revenue and having more number of users means you have a steady stream of revenue flowing in every month, irrespective of games released in that month.

Edited September 9, 2025 by Ne0

[AnK]

39 minutes ago, Ne0 said:

Day 1 releases are for attracting new users/increasing user count.  Actually on paper, it makes sense for companies who own the said platforms because subscription is recurring revenue and having more number of users means you have a steady stream of revenue flowing in every month, irrespective of games released in that month.

A.)Subscription is not necessarily a recurring revenue.

Anyone can subscribe for a month or two & play COD all he wants & be done.

essentially spending few $ that otherwise warrants a $70 day1 expense historically.

 

B.)In GamePass’s specific case there has been lack of transparency as to how much revenue is actually been generated & how much of those subscribers are still on $1-3 a month subsidised unadvertised backdoor transitions from other cheaper tiers.

 

No wonder the industry veterans are speaking one after the other against such a cannibalistic mechanism.

[Ne0]

56 minutes ago, AnK said:

A.)Subscription is not necessarily a recurring revenue.

Anyone can subscribe for a month or two & play COD all he wants & be done.

essentially spending few $ that otherwise warrants a $70 day1 expense historically.

 

B.)In GamePass’s specific case there has been lack of transparency as to how much revenue is actually been generated & how much of those subscribers are still on $1-3 a month subsidised unadvertised backdoor transitions from other cheaper tiers.

 

No wonder the industry veterans are speaking one after the other against such a cannibalistic mechanism.

All subscription based services work on the psychology that once you subscribe, the chances of you cancelling that subscription are very less even if you don’t use it. They rely on the fact that humans have FOMO when they want to cancel the subscription. Once you subscribe with the credit card and it keeps billing you monthly, most people would just forget about it and keep paying without thinking too much about it (unless the service is really bad or content goes completely stale after a big release like ubi+ or you’re in penny pinching mode).  What you mentioned where people subscribing for just a couple of months might happen in few cases, but that’s more of an exception than a rule.  

[Ne0]

56 minutes ago, AnK said:

A.)Subscription is not necessarily a recurring revenue.

Anyone can subscribe for a month or two & play COD all he wants & be done.

essentially spending few $ that otherwise warrants a $70 day1 expense historically.

 

B.)In GamePass’s specific case there has been lack of transparency as to how much revenue is actually been generated & how much of those subscribers are still on $1-3 a month subsidised unadvertised backdoor transitions from other cheaper tiers.

 

No wonder the industry veterans are speaking one after the other against such a cannibalistic mechanism.

All subscription based services work on the psychology that once you subscribe, the chances of you cancelling that subscription are very less even if you don’t use it. They rely on the fact that humans have FOMO when they want to cancel the subscription. Once you subscribe with the credit card and it keeps billing you monthly, most people would just forget about it and keep paying without thinking too much about it (unless the service is really bad or content goes completely stale after a big release like ubi+ or you’re in penny pinching mode).  What you mentioned where people subscribing for just a couple of months might happen in few cases, but that’s more of an exception than a rule.  

[AnK]

Gaming subscriptions are in fairly infant phase of their life(not counting the online multiplayer mandatory tier).

 

One can’t expect to have one to one comparison with other entertainment subscriptions that have much more wide spread demographics.

One or the other person is engaged on Netflix at my home.

And that’s the case with all households I know of.

 

But amongst all these households I am the only one subscribed to a Gaming Subscription.

 

There is just no sensible one to one comparison here.

 

Day1 AAA Games on Gaming subscription has the potential of bringing down the quality of this industry in devastating ways.

More & More knowledgeable ppl irrespective of their past allegiance are openly saying that now.

 

 

Edited September 9, 2025 by AnK

[Ne0]

2 hours ago, AnK said:

Gaming subscriptions are in fairly infant phase of their life(not counting the online multiplayer mandatory tier).

 

One can’t expect to have one to one comparison with other entertainment subscriptions that have much more wide spread demographics.

One or the other person is engaged on Netflix at my home.

And that’s the case with all households I know of.

 

But amongst all these households I am the only one subscribed to a Gaming Subscription.

 

There is just no sensible one to one comparison here.

 

Day1 AAA Games on Gaming subscription has the potential of bringing down the quality of this industry in devastating ways.

More & More knowledgeable ppl irrespective of their past allegiance are openly saying that now.

 

 

All industry insiders complain about subscription based services in their respective industries, even many Bollywood directors, producers, complain that OTT is taking away audience from theatres.  Same thing happened with Spotify in its prime with many artists complaining or boycotting it, and the same thing is happening currently with game based subscription services.  
 

There is always a transition phase during which people will complain, but ultimately will adjust to the new ways. Most developers who are currently complaining about sub services will eventually find ways to make it work for them, I don’t think they’ll all close down.  In any industry there’ll always be disruptions like this, ones who don’t adjust as usual left get left behind.