AnK Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 29 minutes ago, Krazyniks said: So that's how you guys start your morning worrying about future of Series S ... Do you guys have an OCD to talk bad about Xbox and just can't help yourself ? Might want to contact that Dev for saying that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, AnK said: Might want to contact that Dev for saying that too Does he also complain about Xbox obsessively on Twitter or wherever you read about him first ? If yes (highly doubt it) then I will surely advise him to get checked for OCD as well . Edited July 27, 2021 by Krazyniks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 2 hours ago, AnK said: So what happened with Cyberpunk & PS4 after 7 years of launch will probably start happening with SeriesS at around 2-3 years of launch (if you ask me or look at Exodus it’s already started,f**ckin 512p)& even to stretch it that far developers will be forced to limit their vision on PS5/SX What a pathetic scenario it’s really going to be That’s why I never wanted it to sell well & hold any meaningful pull on this gen In that case you should start praying that Steam Deck doesn't sell well. It will become the new lowest common denominator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Krazyniks said: So that's how you guys start your morning worrying about future of Series S ... Do you guys have an OCD to talk bad about Xbox and just can't help yourself ? These guys are paid. No other reason to explain this. I was searching for my toothbrush when they posted this stuff. They come here to even take their sh*t in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, TRMNTR said: In that case you should start praying that Steam Deck doesn't sell well. It will become the new lowest common denominator. Check my posts regarding that on PC thread Though it’s just a PC that is being marketed to run games at 30fps 720p also no other platform is holding developers bound to make a port for it if they decide to leave it out of their minimum specs in future Edited July 27, 2021 by AnK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, AnK said: Check my posts regarding that on PC thread Though it’s just a PC that is being marketed to run games at 30fps 720p also no other platform is holding developers bound to make a port for it if they decide to leave it out of their minimum specs in future Not if it sells well. If it does, devs will want their games to work on it. Personally, I don't think XSS or SD will hold back anything. Game development is quite scalable. That should be pretty obvious by now with XSS. Wherever there are limitations, devs have made cutbacks to the XSS version and not the XSX/PS5 version. I'd be happy to be proven wrong in case you have any points to the contrary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, TRMNTR said: Not if it sells well. If it does, devs will want their games to work on it. Personally, I don't think XSS or SD will hold back anything. Game development is quite scalable. That should be pretty obvious by now with XSS. Wherever there are limitations, devs have made cutbacks to the XSS version and not the XSX/PS5 version. I'd be happy to be proven wrong in case you have any points to the contrary. Such issues mushroom up during the f** end of a consoles life. Example - cyberpunk running on base PS4 and one s. I'm sure deck would see frequent hardware revisions, thus this problem shouldn't occur. If they don't revise the hardware though, two issues might happen 1) crappy performance on the deck 2) switch esque bottleneck- just to allow a game to run on all generations of switch, Nintendo abandoned the idea of a more powerful switch pro. Ps- some esteemed members here were pissed that Forbidden West and GT7 will come out on the PS4......for this exact same reason. Edited July 27, 2021 by radicaldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) As said in the post the biggest & most recent example is failed scalability of CyberPunk Not only was the game no where near the scale it was promised but also the visuals failed on old hardware The true artistic vision was achievable only if the devs had focused on next gen. The true visual target was achieved by midgen but due to the restrictions of no midgen port without lastgen release Sony is having to go through marketing hell of how to make ppl play it on preferred devices without having to sell it to Last gen owners Even if steam deck sells 115 million like PS4 ,hypothetical future games like Avatar will!! leave it out of the minimum spec Coz they are not bound by any agreement to make a port if they want to release on its stronger brethren Edited July 27, 2021 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) XBox 360 was at 80 million when M$ decided that Ryse,Dead Rising 3,Sunset OverDrive all by third party developers will only release on XBone I guess idiot shareholders must have ripped a new one into the company PS2’s 150million was left behind as soon as PS360 rolled out all idiots Infact idiots idiots everywhere It’s like having a discussion with kg kids aaahh I’m done Please give me strength god to not come back & drop my mental level here Edited July 27, 2021 by AnK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, AnK said: As said in the post the biggest & most recent example is failed scalability of CyberPunk Cyberpunk is actually quite playable on PS4, now that they have devoted time for optimization. Personally, I think it looks pretty good. I am also of the view that graphics are not everything. I was clearing my backlog on 3ds just a few months ago. I found games on it to be quite beautiful looking. (Bravely Default to be specific) Currently playing Raji: An Ancient Epic via gamepass. Same, it looks beautiful and has amazing music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 41 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Such issues mushroom up during the f** end of a consoles life. Example - cyberpunk running on base PS4 and one s. 39 minutes ago, AnK said: As said in the post the biggest & most recent example is failed scalability of CyberPunk Not sure how this fits into the conversation of lowest common denominator. If anything, it's quite the opposite. Can you guys point out how the PC version (or upcoming next-versions) were compromised due to the devs targeting XB1/PS4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hsk_colossus Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, AnK said: XBox 360 was at 80 million when M$ decided that Ryse,Dead Rising 3,Sunset OverDrive all by third party developers will only release on XBone I guess idiot shareholders must have ripped a new one into the company PS2’s 150million was left behind as soon as PS360 rolled out all idiots Infact idiots idiots everywhere It’s like having a discussion with kg kids aaahh I’m done Please give me strength god to not come back & drop my mental level here You start this and than complain about it…. Don’t act so innocent every time… every one knows your modus operandi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 31 minutes ago, iam said: Actually Cyberpunk is an example of sheer incompetence than anything else. You can't have the biggest f**k up in modern AAA gaming as an example and use it to prove your point. Pretty much this. Not sure why we're taking all these articles for the gospel truth and then regurgitating it everywhere. And giving examples like Cyberpunk to prove a point on lowest common denominators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, TRMNTR said: PC version (or upcoming next-versions) were compromised due to the devs targeting XB1/PS4? See the initial developer vision in their press releases & the infamous demo of them confirming elements that were no longer visible in the final product But anyway I’m an idiot too see all these things that some just can’t no matter how much it’s visible I agree once & for all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, TRMNTR said: Not sure how this fits into the conversation of lowest common denominator. If anything, it's quite the opposite. Can you guys point out how the PC version (or upcoming next-versions) were compromised due to the devs targeting XB1/PS4? This current gen has taken a tremendous leap forward biggest being the inclusion of a fast SSD. This changes dynamics of games completely. I have said this many times before, it would be difficult to optimise games on a hardware that came out in 2014, which are meant for systems that came out in late 2020 with 2x-3x raw power. Now xss is perfectly capable now to run current games on 1080p. But Devs are looking ahead. Maybe some want to harness full 12 tflops of xsx. Would want to see that coalition tech demo running on a series s system. https://screenrant.com/xbox-series-x-s-specs-memory-ram-games/ Now this is a day one GP title. Do give this a read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggr happy ss Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 Ohh so today’s topic is series S and lowest common denominator AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, radicaldude said: https://screenrant.com/xbox-series-x-s-specs-memory-ram-games/ Now this is a day one GP title. Do give this a read. This is actually what developer said: "While Lekki holds that Microsoft has “made good choices" in providing players with a more affordable current-gen offering and that scaling back a game's graphical horsepower is still easier than cutting back gameplay" Rest is all added masala by press. And you are promoting this practice by giving them more clicks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, AnK said: See the initial developer vision in their press releases & the infamous demo of them confirming elements that were no longer visible in the final product But anyway I’m an idiot too see all these things that some just can’t no matter how much it’s visible I agree once & for all Have you seen the game running on the old hardware in comparison to PC? They are completely different games. The fact that it was unplayable on last gen (still is) should tell you how many f**ks they gave about the lowest common denominators. Also, they were never going to achieve their "initial developer vision". That demo was a marketing tool to get people excited. If you haven't realised that by know, there's literally no point discussing it with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, iam said: Actually the lowest common denominator is switch. Doom eternal development was restricted because switch was a target platform. Switch version is actually a completely different game. I am playing it right now and makes full use of Series S hardware. Looks amazing. Don't think it's held back in any way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 27, 2021 Report Share Posted July 27, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: This is actually what developer said: "While Lekki holds that Microsoft has “made good choices" in providing players with a more affordable current-gen offering and that scaling back a game's graphical horsepower is still easier than cutting back gameplay" Rest is all added masala by press. And you are promoting this practice by giving them more clicks. Yeap agreed. Would have been better if it had a disc drive. Perfect ambivalent home console for full hd screens. However I wont be surprised if its production is stopped in few years (all energies diverted to produce xsx all digital instead). Edited July 27, 2021 by radicaldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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