PlayStation vs Xbox vs Nintendo thread

[Vaibhavp]

6 hours ago, AnK said:

What’s the point if someone has a 4K display at his disposal at all times. 

 

Other than an adjustment buy stated above….it didn’t really make sense as he plays PS5 on 4K i’m assuming. 

 

It looks fine on 4k screen. I tried on 50" screen.

 

If you sit 4 feet or more from screen. 

[KnackChap]

Official XBOX channel caught stealing content from other youtubers. 

 

 

[hsk_colossus]

8 hours ago, AnK said:

If it was an adjustment buy then it’s ok 

 

 

Even ank approves!

[RV1709]

59 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

Official XBOX channel caught stealing content from other youtubers. 

 

 

If only they used all that energy to steal good game ideas 

[RV1709]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Why steal ideas when you can steal the wholeass studio

7.5b is definitely a steal 

[Bird Bird Bird]

9 hours ago, roun90 said:

 

 

Wrong thread. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Bird Bird Bird

[AnK]

35 minutes ago, RV1709 said:

7.5b is definitely a steal 

It’s asset building. 
 

not really counted as an investment to keep your existing loss making business running in the books of great Scam Gang CA’s. 
 

Wonder why Sony & Nintendo despite making record profits never thought of “reinvestment”…….errrr “asset building” in the same industry on similar lines. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by AnK

[quixote_1989]

1 hour ago, KnackChap said:

Official XBOX channel caught stealing content from other youtubers. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Assassins Creed]

Scam em with more GamePass 

[Assassins Creed]

10 hours ago, AnK said:

Buying SeriesS is pointless imo,

specially when SeriesX was so easily available. 

 

Blame @fatpigeon, perhaps if he had posited for the pic KC had asked he might have landed a SeX

 

[Vamos]

1 hour ago, quixote_1989 said:

Official XBOX channel caught stealing content from other youtubers. 


We’ve apologised, pulled the vid and there’s some XGP waiting for him

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 29, 2021 by Vamos

[El Tigre Chino]

Back to P&L investments as the scam grows stronger by the day eh. Coping mechanism is kicking in hard in here. 

[Vaibhavp]

12 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Yehi problem hai. Can't play beyond 10 PM. Kids sleeping time. 

 

I have never seen any action on scamgang before 10:30 pm. 

 

This is why I like Series S. Create a setup wherever you want. Never thought I would make a gaming setup in my room.

[AnK]

1 hour ago, Mr. Comingle said:

 

MS may be spending through the nose but I wouldn't be surprised if their valuation has increased more than what they're spending.

 

Your whole essay & the long continuing struggle(& plathora of personal attacks) to prove the otherwise evident & visibly noticeable to even non business related personal

about console hardware & integrated gaming division of M$ bleeding to the very last nostrils of it’s nose is based upon this little assumption of yours. 
 

Which you can’t even prove is actually happening on the subsidiary level. 
 

7 minutes ago, El Tigre Chino said:

Back to P&L investments as the scam grows stronger by the day eh. Coping mechanism is kicking in hard in here. 

 

I have mentioned multiple times it’s absolutely worth buying so that’s not really a stuck up.

 

But having this notion that it’s already become something it may become in the future “if” things fall in place is quite fascinating. 

[roun90]

1 hour ago, Mr. Comingle said:

 

Another form of building a business is acquisitions. You acquire an already running business and integrate it with yours thus giving you the skillset and products which you would have taken years to build and might not have happened at all because of inherent execution risk. Because you have a running business on day 1 with no execution risk, you have to pay more for it which tends to be at least 20% higher than the intrinsic value. This is called investment and the reason it works is that markets value scale an awful lot especially in subscription models. 

MS may be spending through the nose but I wouldn't be surprised if their valuation has increased more than what they're spending.

 

You should just stick to abstract sh*t where your fellow illiterates can back you up. 

 

No need to be so insulting.

 

But anyway, this strategy is also not without risks. Many times, studios when they are acquired - fail. This is simply because there are cultural clashes between both companies. There are many lay-offs and restructuring also, because firms can find there are 2 or more people for the same job. Many people also decide to cash out and retire on the payout, when the company is acquired, especially if they have ESOPs. There is also the question of ego, especially on top-level employees, who suddenly find new bosses above them. For major examples of studio failures after acquisition - look no further than EA and all their (mis) adventures. Heck, even Blizzard (after Activision acquired them) and Rare (after MS acquired them) have not been able to produce  much of anything of quality.

 

They might succeed, but this is a bet, not a certainty. Organic Growth avoids all this sh*t. They are most of the times almost always guaranteed to succeed. that's why many people consider Organic Growth to be the best.

 

Anyway this is just my 2 cents on the matter.

[Bird Bird Bird]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

My point is that M&A is a legitimate way of growing.

 

Is anybody doubting that ? The company I work for gets into a new M&A every year or couple of years at max. It's the name of the game. 

[TRMNTR]

If not for aquisitions, most big corporations wouldn't be as big. Heck the company I work for is literally a conglomerate of many different companies. Without these aquisitions, it wouldn't even exist.

[roun90]

36 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

 

My point is that M&A is a legitimate way of growing. I fail to understand the offense some people take from it. 

Even going so far as to invent new accounting standards to justify their lack of knowledge. 

 

Absolutely correct, this is one of the ways of growing. A very traditional way in fact. It will provide an immediate boost in valuation - certainly, since multiple assets are added to the company in very quick succession (Unless the acquired company was on the verge of failure, which is not the case with Bethesda)

 

36 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

 

But they're a faster way of growing. Any business venture carries risk. But risk is lower when you acquire a tested business and can work to grow it from there. 

 

This need not be correct. Acquiring a new studio or building one from scratch is ultimately less expensive. Because the new studio has no name in the first place, they have not much valuation. They can be built or acquired cheaply afaik. So risk of loss is much less.

 

For example, if MS builds or acquired XYZ studio - there is not much risk, even if it fails. But f Bethesda fails to deliver on high quality games (For example, say most of the major employees responsible for the previous games retire and only Todd Howard and a handful of employees are left, with everyone else being new) - it's a disaster for MS. Ultimately, quality of games speaks. And Todd Howard is not solely responsible for quality. There are hundreds of employees with him who are not high profile and remain faceless.

 

On the other hand, if the gamble succeeds, then they add 100% of what Bethesda was to MS, so their value increases exponentially.

 

So less risk is subjective. It's high risk/high gain vs low risk/slow but very high chances of gain.

36 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Every big tech startup has become big by running loss making businesses and funding then with equity until they get scale to be profitable. 

 

This may be the case. But there are also 100s of failures for every success. The best part for MS is that they have the cushion of Windows and Office Income + Hyper focus on Cloud. So MS by itself will never fail. But the entire thing is dependent on Cloud AFAIK. If Cloud Gaming does not pick up soon, then shareholders might not want to keep sub model indefinitely.

 

If it pays off though - then sub model might reach up to the skies and might even become default gaming method. Getting the entire World out of machines, and allowing even mobile only people to play AAA games on sub - it's a dream for businesses. After all, in case of sub models, the name of the game is "accessibility". Restricting accessibility to only 1 console and high end PCs is not what's ideal.

 

Again High Risk/High Gain IMO.

Edited December 29, 2021 by roun90

[AnK]

Again spinning the whole debate on different tangents just to make sense of a stupid notion.

 

No one ever said that acquisitions in question are a wrong or miscalculated business moves. 
 

It’s just that it’s too early to label it as “asset building” considering the revenue of the business purchased is practically being run into the ground without giving second thoughts,to help the other subsidiary stay respectfully afloat in terms of brand name & market share. 

But it’s too hard to digest I guess.

 

It needs to be labelled as some sort of fixed asset acquired that will neither depreciate nor run into trouble if not used correctly.

 

 

It’s pretty evident that M$ is not really gambling on core gaming systems here but something far ahead with every screen one could have access to,it may very well work out not just for them but the growth of entire industry……

 

….but why make a laughing stock of this strategic move by presuming “growth” that hasn’t taken place yet. 

[AnK]

 dude at this point you don’t give two squats about M$ or Sony’s business strategies & it’s pretty evident where your fascination lies.  

 

But since you have decided to jump discussions between different threads,I’ll also give you a nice little example. 
 

Science & Research:- “No amount of vaccination will speed up the transition from pandemic to endemic as immunity from natural infection will” 

 

Dumb illiterate human:- “You mean to say Omicron will save me”. 

Edited December 29, 2021 by AnK