AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 Just now, Mr. Comingle said: https://www.pcgamesn.com/doom-eternal/revenue Bathesda is a big publisher. Can’t ride on success of just one franchise in 7 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, AnK said: Bathesda is a big publisher. Can’t ride on success of just one franchise in 7 years. Xbox: Bethesda:: Bethesda : id doom is an Id franchise. People respect Id. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Xbox: Bethesda:: Bethesda : id doom is an Id franchise. People respect Id. Whatever it is it’s the only thing that brought in money for Bathesda in 7 long years. They had put up all of their new games up for deals & exclusivity funding. No wonder on first opportunity they encashed a swift exit at someone else’s desperate expense. I just hope something good comes out of it end of the day,I don’t want good quality AAA developing house with so much talent dying. Edited April 12, 2022 by AnK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Absolutely correct. It's great that these amazing studios don't have to be beholden to sales figures anymore. Tango, Arkane, id, machine games are extremely talented studios who can now produce games with ample budgets. Excited to see what they put out. MS is also giving them a lot of freedom to pursue what they want. Like Machine Games is now working on a Indiana Jones which is completely different from what they've done before. Revenue is not how you judge art. Fight club was a critical and commercial failure but it's considered one of the greatest movies ever made by many. Don’t disregard revenue like that. It is the reason through which your next project gets funding. You can’t keep putting out commercial failures over and over in the name of art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: It's great that these amazing studios don't have to be beholden to sales figures anymore. How did you come up to this conclusion,I’m not to sure. Even subscription services end of the day runs their service in return of steady revenue. & usually there are big calculations going on to determine how much a particular product added to that revenue. Unless of course you have stamped your mind with this notion that the honeymoon period M$ is offering right now is never going to end. So if games like Psychonaughts 2,FlightSimulator,Deathloop,Ghostwire(on arrival) fail to generate any visible interest in subscribers(once they actually have to pay full intended $15)…..they won’t get the same budget repeatedly. Edited April 12, 2022 by AnK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RV1709 Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, AnK said: How did you come up to this conclusion,I’m not to sure. Even subscription services end of the day runs their service in return of steady revenue. & usually there are big calculations going on to determine how much a particular product added to that revenue. Unless of course you have stamped your mind with this notion that the honeymoon period M$ is offering right now is never going to end. So if games like Psychonaughts 2,FlightSimulator,Deathloop,Ghostwire(on arrival) fail to generate any visible interest in subscribers…..they won’t get the same budget repeatedly. I think he meant that unlike game sales which will have a 1:1 relationship… in case of subscriptions, it may not be that linear. For example, you pay for Netflix and they would have a suite of both commercial/mass content and experimental/niche content. This way your mass games do the heavy lifting on subscriptions while the niche ones (if they stick) can certainly drive experimentation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Yeah but people are more open to trying new stuff on gamepass. It'll be easier to justify the spend when they can show solid metrics on GP. “Trying stuff” & spending time on it are two very different things. Every tom, dick & harry will boot content if it’s free of cost (or -$0.87-$3 a month) But he will only spend $15 once he’s sure he is going to get enough value out of it in terms of hours played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. Comingle said: They'll probably track impressions and since xbots will play anything, Bethesda games should have no trouble generating downloads and playtime. Anything Arkane, id makes, am in day 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, RV1709 said: I think he meant that unlike game sales which will have a 1:1 relationship… in case of subscriptions, it may not be that linear. For example, you pay for Netflix and they would have a suite of both commercial/mass content and experimental/niche content. This way your mass games do the heavy lifting on subscriptions while the niche ones (if they stick) can certainly drive experimentation That's exactly what happens in big publishing houses that don't go Subscription route & earn money traditionally. Sony has been making a soulsborne/gravity rush/returnal for every Spider-Man/GoW/Horizon for the longest time I can remember. It's just that similar balance is required irrespective of Subscription or Theatre/retail. The only saving grace right now M$ has to maintain balance is COD & that too if all goes well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 All's not well in paradise, when you have to bundle GP subscription with candies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 https://marker.medium.com/netflix-and-chill-try-netflix-and-anxious-about-the-future-5611713ea275 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 For game subscription services to survive, they would have to churn out aaa first party titles every few months. With massive delays happening, i wonder how long daddy Nadella would allow Spenders charade. Such services literally have to gobble up studios for new content to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Anything Arkane, id makes, am in day 1. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushab oswal Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, radicaldude said: For game subscription services to survive, they would have to churn out aaa first party titles every few months. With massive delays happening, i wonder how long daddy Nadella would allow Spenders charade. Such services literally have to gobble up studios for new content to survive. Bhai itna tension tu kyu leraha he ? Chala toh thik nae chala toh bhi thik Enjoy while it lasts na ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) If COD remains multiplatform even once all deals with Sony run out. It will be a difficult task to generate Gamespass interest in majority of those players. They hardly play anything else just like other sports demographic. Elder Scrolls 6 is another big one but getting even comparable interest 15 or probably even more years after the last one,will be another interesting thing to see. Apart from that I don't see a single big name to maintain balance. Unless of course Starfield generates interest on the lines of new franchises from Sony like Horizon or GoT. 5 minutes ago, rushab oswal said: Bhai itna tension tu kyu leraha he ? Chala toh thik nae chala toh bhi thik Enjoy while it lasts na ? We are in capacity of analysts here....not as gamers. I sincerely want everyone to enjoy this golden period. But analyzing & predicting future is equally important. Edited April 12, 2022 by AnK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 (edited) Just imagine, KH4 trailer, a game targeting summer 2023 release has more gameplay than Starfield which is supposed to release in November 2022. Edited April 12, 2022 by radicaldude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0verlord Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 5 hours ago, radicaldude said: That means @Vaibhavps entire "next gen" experience is a lie That may be but your entire “next gen” experience is ““ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaibhavp Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 1 minute ago, 0verlord said: That may be but your entire “next gen” experience is ““ Series S is way more fun. You get a chuckle out of it just by looking at it. Best console right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 28 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said: Problem is that aukat nahi hai I guess you are out of luck son. I was this >.< close of quitting but then someone reminded me of this:- I guess you are the perfect example of the crowd this good guy was referring to. & before someone asks….no this is no one from the PS camp or even Xbox camp. He is one of the few true gamers here,who knows his sh*t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted April 12, 2022 Report Share Posted April 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said: Series S is way more fun. You get a chuckle out of it just by looking at it. Best console right now. That's the only thing it is good for. Why don't you try emulation on the device. there aren't first party games coming anytime soon anyways. Better explore older libraries of ps and nintendo consoles which are better than what xbox has to offer in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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