Movie Discussion Thread Vol. 2

[Felix the cat]

25 minutes ago, Aercy said:

I’m no intellectual or pseudo one but it’s simple to me, movies are for entertainment. Loved Taskanth Files, I’m sure I’ll like this too.

 

Try watching 12 Angry Men and understand that different opinions doesn’t make anyone wrong or right but the ability to think logically is more important than branding someone pseudo-intellectual. But then half of the country is invested in the game of choosing sides and seeing black or white, nothing in between.

 

It is a commercial movie, made to make money. The primary objective is that, and secondary is storytelling.

This f**king movie made only for hate,

There are thousand of ways they can narrate the story.

 

 

[hope]

33 minutes ago, Felix the cat said:

This f**king movie made only for hate,

There are thousand of ways they can narrate the story.

 

 

Truth is often disappointing. What happened actually needs to be shown, the act itself is shameful then people will be angry ofcourse. Movie is not for hate, its an eye opener. 

 

Thousands of ways truth can be twisted and show all goody goody is not how to narrate a story. 

 

Look how the false truth was shown till now  Absolute Joke, the lies and perpetrators need to be busted. 

 

 

[KrIzAliD]

2 hours ago, Felix the cat said:

This f**king movie made only for hate,

There are thousand of ways they can narrate the story.

 

 

 

so showing what happened is not one of them?

[harsh1387]

Watched 83 last night on Netflix. 

Thoroughly enjoyed it. Really well made movie although couple of over the top scenes could have been avoided.

 

Not a fan of Ranveer Singh but he has done a tremendous job of an understated Kapil Dev and his portrayal of Kapil's mannerisms especially the way he talks was quite brilliant. 

 

The supporting caste was equally good. Being a cricket player and fan o could relate with the movie more but it was a pleasant surprise seeing rest of the family including the extended one enjoying it as much. 

 

1983 world cup was a much more important win than the 2011 one cos in 1983 no one took India seriously and were regarded a loser team. That win changed everything. 

 

Still upset over the fact of Kapil's 175 not being recorded cos of BBC strike. But the movie has done a fair job of portraying how it was. 

 

I wasn't expecting much from it but it's a solid 4/5 movie for me.

 

Also, it was pleasing to see the way they incorporated the original stuff with the movie one. 

[Felix the cat]

38 minutes ago, hope said:

Truth is often disappointing. What happened actually needs to be shown, the act itself is shameful then people will be angry ofcourse. Movie is not for hate, its an eye opener. 

 

Thousands of ways truth can be twisted and show all goody goody is not how to narrate a story. 

 

Look how the false truth was shown till now  Absolute Joke, the lies and perpetrators need to be busted. 

 

 

(Answer to those who keep sying that ppl need to know about what happened that time and should learn from it.)

 

Eye opening huh,for whome you're talking about idk.

If someone is saying he's unaware about the kashmir incident even after thirty years and came to know about it after watching this movie, then bro its just nothing more than a joke and i feel sorry for those people.

where were those people,in usa.

 

And pls dont say that if some people dont know about the kashmir incident is the indicator of how this event is suppressed.fact is majority of ppl are totally aware about it and about the intensity of that genocide.(Ppl who has some general awareness about theire world)

Only fact that is true is that time gov didnt took any action 

 

Im saying its a joke bcs some people came to know about it after watching movie.i mean its ironic , getting knowledge about the history from the bollywood instead of newspapers or books.

 

I know many news platform keep pressing about how this incident is suppressed and it came out only after this movie, i must say those news agency are creating propaganda nothing else.

 

All im saying that there is no need of such movies bcs majority of ppl already knows,no need to keep digging the past,so all this movie do is spreading hate only and wrecking the national integrity.

 

Didnt you saw videos how ppl reacting and giving hate speeches in movie theatre after the movie end.

Why gaurav taneja (flying beast)

gave speech to maintain harmony and peace in the society before the movie start. Bcs he knows what this movie can do.and he cant say directly.

 

Pls Dont get confused that im supporting any gov. I agree that previous gov didnt do sh*t about it and culprits were roaming free.

But situations are changing now, thats good.

 

 

[KrIzAliD]

[hope]

1 hour ago, Felix the cat said:

(Answer to those who keep sying that ppl need to know about what happened that time and should learn from it.)

 

Eye opening huh,for whome you're talking about idk.

If someone is saying he's unaware about the kashmir incident even after thirty years and came to know about it after watching this movie, then bro its just nothing more than a joke and i feel sorry for those people.

where were those people,in usa.

 

And pls dont say that if some people dont know about the kashmir incident is the indicator of how this event is suppressed.fact is majority of ppl are totally aware about it and about the intensity of that genocide.(Ppl who has some general awareness about theire world)

Only fact that is true is that time gov didnt took any action 

 

Im saying its a joke bcs some people came to know about it after watching movie.i mean its ironic , getting knowledge about the history from the bollywood instead of newspapers or books.

 

I know many news platform keep pressing about how this incident is suppressed and it came out only after this movie, i must say those news agency are creating propaganda nothing else.

 

All im saying that there is no need of such movies bcs majority of ppl already knows,no need to keep digging the past,so all this movie do is spreading hate only and wrecking the national integrity.

 

Didnt you saw videos how ppl reacting and giving hate speeches in movie theatre after the movie end.

Why gaurav taneja (flying beast)

gave speech to maintain harmony and peace in the society before the movie start. Bcs he knows what this movie can do.and he cant say directly.

 

Pls Dont get confused that im supporting any gov. I agree that previous gov didnt do sh*t about it and culprits were roaming free.

But situations are changing now, thats good.

 

 

 

Nobody knew jack about the reality other than the people who suffered and the people who hid the bitter truth thus the uproar. 

 

Maintain harmony should be done by everyone, why it is only limited to a certain section

 

Your Gaurav Taneja was shook for 3 days straight after watching the movie surely he didnt know about it thus its needed to be seen by everyone to see what has happened and what could happen  The uproar is justified and perpetrators, bad apples,etc should be hanged.  

[achilles]

16 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

Finally saw it today - and if any pseudo-intellectual thinks this is entertainment, they are highly mistaken. 

 

Did it make you feel something? Then this artwork did its job. You can band it in a box called "entertainment". But I think the point the other guy was trying to make by saying that it was entertainment was that it would invoke a response. Like any meaningful creative thing should. 

I haven't watched it yet, but i will. 

 

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Watched The Matrix Resurrections yesterday. Dune will have to wait. It's on next CC (after 83)  

 

The Matrix was, for a long while, my absolute favourite movie of all time. It brought forth with it new things in cinema and left its mark. The story, the world, the lore, and the set-pieces and action, and the way they were all tied together collectively blew our minds. I know i was sucked into that world, and spent many hours reading, and discussing about it. About The Matrix, and about The One. 

Then when i watched it again as a more mature human, i thought it was decent. Maybe it was the fatigue, or the age of the movie. Anyway. 

I think it was this expectation that held Resurrections back, because, removed from this precedent, R felt quite a decent thing. There were many things to like about it. I liked that it was kind of meta, and took its resurrection tongue-in-cheek, it was equal parts fresh, and equal parts throwback. It felt like they'd brought enough new things to the narrative to keep me interested. It also has a much lighter tone compared to the original's grave, world-ending vibe. 

 

I'd recommend the fans to watch it. I know i had to, because it was The Matrix, and i'm happy it was fun. For now, i can confidently say that i'd pick this over the other two R's: Reloaded & Resurrections. 

 

7/10

 

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Please DO NOT read further if you haven't watched it yet. 

 

Observations and discussions: 

You could see how dated the visual fidelity was of the '99 original when they mixed in some of the "memories". 

Why'd they have to make Trinity "super"? Woke-ness?

The new Smith was cool. 

The new Architect was cool too, certainly seemed better at his job at knowing humans, and keeping them hooked to the Matrix.

It felt like WB shoehorned the team into a budget, because some of the fight scenes and CGI weren't up to the mark. Even the bio-sky in io isn't really shown. Side note, the bio-hacking they are doing for io seemed quite logical. The DI's, not so much. 

Fight scenes seemed specially hampered by older actors.

Even then, some of the gun fights were just stupid. Like SWAT team couldn't hit a target 20 feet in front with automatic weapons? I mean, sure, they couldn't because these guys could move, but they didn't show them moving in that way. They showed them moving regularly. Only MorpheuSmith was all over the walls, and he appeared funny doing that sh*t. It wasn't impressive like in the original. 

I also liked how it went WWZ at the end

Yet, the last fight doesn't have a satisfying conclusion like Neo rupturing Smith as in the original. This one just.. hangs there. Even Trinity's fly-by wasn't shown properly, they just.. woosh off-screen. More budget constraints i suppose. 

This time, instead of the meaning, couldn't understand The Merovingian's words at all. Something needs to be done with audio mixing in dialog in Hollywood. This Nolan hangover has been overplayed. 

 

Watched on Apple TV; rented. Side note: Apple TV offers Indian rated cuts of the movies and that is absolute suck-a*s. I mean, they muted MILF  

 

Edited March 22, 2022 by achilles

[Felix the cat]

31 minutes ago, hope said:

 

Maintain harmony should be done by everyone, why it is only limited to a certain section

 

 

True but i was sying bcs of the movie,whose sentiments gonna hurt after watching the movie?quite obvious,no

 

And about flying beast,he smartly did what he can without hurting theire audience, other than that everyone right now trying to ride the wave.

[hope]

1 minute ago, Felix the cat said:

True but i was sying bcs of the movie,whose sentiments gonna hurt after watching the movie?quite obvious,no

 

And about flying beast,he smartly did what he can without hurting theire audience, other than that everyone right now trying to ride the wave.

He just booked a whole theatre for 1 show  

 

Wave? People want more people to see the truth. 

Edited March 22, 2022 by hope

[Felix the cat]

1 minute ago, hope said:

 

Wave? People want more people to see the truth. 

Yes,so innocent

[hope]

25 minutes ago, Felix the cat said:

Yes,so innocent

Are billi samajh na bhai 

[Ne0]

7 hours ago, Felix the cat said:

This f**king movie made only for hate,

There are thousand of ways they can narrate the story.

 

 

I haven't seen this movie yet, but I don't get this logic.  Was anything shown in the movie false ? If not, when ppl lap up movies like Schindler's list or the pianist and award them why hate on movies made from India which are mostly of similar kind ? Did Spielberg create Schindler list so that the world can hate on Germans ? He made a movie based on an event in history, similarly some guys in India made a movie on an event from Indian history.  

[Bird Bird Bird]

4 hours ago, Felix the cat said:

(Answer to those who keep sying that ppl need to know about what happened that time and should learn from it.)

 

Eye opening huh,for whome you're talking about idk.

If someone is saying he's unaware about the kashmir incident even after thirty years and came to know about it after watching this movie, then bro its just nothing more than a joke and i feel sorry for those people.

where were those people,in usa.

 

And pls dont say that if some people dont know about the kashmir incident is the indicator of how this event is suppressed.fact is majority of ppl are totally aware about it and about the intensity of that genocide.(Ppl who has some general awareness about theire world)

Only fact that is true is that time gov didnt took any action 

 

Im saying its a joke bcs some people came to know about it after watching movie.i mean its ironic , getting knowledge about the history from the bollywood instead of newspapers or books.

 

I know many news platform keep pressing about how this incident is suppressed and it came out only after this movie, i must say those news agency are creating propaganda nothing else.

 

All im saying that there is no need of such movies bcs majority of ppl already knows,no need to keep digging the past,so all this movie do is spreading hate only and wrecking the national integrity.

 

Didnt you saw videos how ppl reacting and giving hate speeches in movie theatre after the movie end.

Why gaurav taneja (flying beast)

gave speech to maintain harmony and peace in the society before the movie start. Bcs he knows what this movie can do.and he cant say directly.

 

Pls Dont get confused that im supporting any gov. I agree that previous gov didnt do sh*t about it and culprits were roaming free.

But situations are changing now, thats good.

 

 

 

I'm one of those idiots who never knew the extent of such incident. I was friends with 2 KPs, but I was also my early years, an age where you don't care for anything except playing. 

I've not seen it covered by the usual news media in like...forever. All I've seen and heard and read is how the govt and army is exploiting and killing and raping Muslims in Kashmir. It's all over the news, media, movies, TV serials etc. There's a constant barrage of propaganda everywhere, which ensured the latent history never surfaces, and even if it surfaces, people won't believe it. 

IDK why you're so riled up, but the movie revisits a very important piece of history, which should not be forgotten. As simple as that. 

Edited March 22, 2022 by Bird Bird Bird

[Bird Bird Bird]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

I think his point is that all germans are not associated with Nazis in the public mind. A person won't be motivated to lynch a German after watching Schindler's List. 

But, in India, our imbeciles will associate all Kashmiris and Muslims with the terrorists who did that and some sh*t could happen. 

Although that says more about the state of our country than it does about the movie. 

 

But the movie never vilified all the Muslims. It is centered just around Kashmir, and it even says multiple times that this is all funded by Pakistan. 

Yes, it shames a bunch of politicians rightly, as should happen, but there is never a general vilification of Muslims. 

[Bird Bird Bird]

7 hours ago, Aercy said:

is a commercial movie, made to make money. The primary objective is that, and secondary is storytelling.

 

Have you seen the movie ? Have you seen RGV's vlog on the style of the movie ? The pacing, editing, deliberate (or not) slowness of the movie ? He hated it for the fact that the movie turned every filmmaking trope on its heels, and it is still successful. 

Also, if this was an easy commercial movie to make, why haven't we had such a movie before ? Easy to dismiss others work, but appreciate the emotions invoked by the art. 

Waise, everyone's primary objective is to make money. If you go to a hospital, they won't even inject you a Tetanus toxoid unless you pay for it first. Does that mean they are evil or patient is not their priority ? 

[Big Boss]

 

 

[Felix the cat]

1 hour ago, Ne0 said:

I haven't seen this movie yet, but I don't get this logic.  Was anything shown in the movie false ? If not, when ppl lap up movies like Schindler's list or the pianist and award them why hate on movies made from India which are mostly of similar kind ? Did Spielberg create Schindler list so that the world can hate on Germans ? He made a movie based on an event in history, similarly some guys in India made a movie on an event from Indian history.  

Bro,did you ever heard any incidents of riots in germany that some nazis german created and attacked some collective jews. I dont think so.those days are gone.

But delhi riots are the recent example here in india. 

we still have Politician like yogi and owaisi 

situation here in india is totally diff. Comparing germany with india is irrelevant.

 

Pls dont confuse with my statements ,im not supporting anyone,any group or any riots im just concerned about my country.

these things like this movie make situations even more sensitive and vulnerable  b/w two groups in the country.

 

we dont need these type of movies.

only gov. Can make the difference

there is no point to involve public in a matter this sensitive.

 

i dont know what happened to all you guys.

cant you guys see. 

I think this is the real tragedy.

 

[Ne0]

Your initial comment was that the movie is made to spread hate, hence my comparison with similar movies like Schindler's list which focused on other dark events of history.

 

Also instead of calling for cancelling/ banning movies, shouldn't the focus be on asking for public safety ? 

Edited March 22, 2022 by Ne0

[Felix the cat]

45 minutes ago, Ne0 said:

Your initial comment was that the movie is made to spread hate, hence my comparison with similar movies like Schindler's list which focused on other dark events of history.

 

 

 i already explained why ,bcs this is india not germany.