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5 minutes ago, Aftrunner said:

Dharamendra is one of the kindest soul in the industry. Me and you have never met Sushant but it has given us moment of paise to think, didn’t it?

For Dharam it was a member of his fraternity, nothing wrong for him to feel disturbed.

 

Now while we at Dharamendra, the amount of struggle he put through to get break is known to everyone, from sleeping on footpath to travelling on doot going to studios asking for work. He wasn’t hurt by nepotism but the general struggle and lack of resources.

He grew up and helped many budding actors. Many folks from Punjab used to run to Mumbai looking to work in movies and if they came across Dharam, they were helped in one way or other.

Dharamendra has 200 odd Taxis (Kaali peeli) running in Bombay, and most of the drivers used to be those run-away folks.

 

Jaat hai, dil ka saaf hai...not everyone is same.

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Exactly, let the man rest in peace.  Depression is a serious illness that can affect anyone irrespective of where you work and more awareness should be there about the same , might actually help someone in need.

 

My only take from this whole episode is that, happiness is to be found within and no amount of fame/good looks/6 pack abs/money/property/girlfriends can keep a person happy indefinitely.  It's not something you seek, its a state you choose to be in after being grateful for what you've.

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Why should the industry change ?

 

It's a private industry, Karan Johar is putting money (his money) on to a film, it's his damn choice who he signs, return any friendly favours or maintain his friendship status or relations.

 

In the end having a stars kid star attracts audience.

If anything needs to change people/audience need to change.

Ultimately people decide who is more deserving and according to bollywood :

Eg. Someone like Salman Khan is the most talented hero/star and that's the truth.

Making crap movies go super hit with minimal effort : that's the greatest asset.

 

 

Only What Kangana said correct was : Sushant got weak and lost it.

Need to stop blaming the industry.

 

 

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^ That’s lot of victim shaming in that post.

 

Sushant was banned from working in movies of 4-5 production houses because he decided to do Shekhar kapoor’s Paani, rejecting KJo’s flick, then slowly YRF, Nadiadwala T series stopped talking to him.

if you don’t play by rules, they lock the gates, because playground is theirs. He is not the first guy , won’t be last.

 

A professional should get to decide what he/she wants to do w/o being judged. He was mocked on TV by KJo and Alia.

Same people shedding crocodile tears now.

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Although i dont like kangana  because of the hrithik, adhyan suman case. But this woman got the guts to speak her heart, She very well knows the industry will be against her. But instead of a*s licking, speaks whats on her mind.

She was among the first to call out nepotism in the bollywood and ppl hailed her as the next big thing.

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2 hours ago, Aftrunner said:

Are you serious?  :doh:

 

This guy is so out of context everytime :doh: Which world he lives in :rofl:

 

 

People blaming Industry totally is wrong. His last was a big hit and Sajid Nadiadwaala produced it. He signed 3 more with him i think. BS all this. He was doing pretty well. He needed his loved ones beside him. Living alone in that state of mind is difficult. You need to open up when you are in this state,sadly he didnt. RIP :(

 

 

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1 hour ago, GunnerY2J said:

Why should the industry change ?

 

It's a private industry, Karan Johar is putting money (his money) on to a film, it's his damn choice who he signs, return any friendly favours or maintain his friendship status or relations.

 

In the end having a stars kid star attracts audience.

If anything needs to change people/audience need to change.

Ultimately people decide who is more deserving and according to bollywood :

Eg. Someone like Salman Khan is the most talented hero/star and that's the truth.

Making crap movies go super hit with minimal effort : that's the greatest asset.

 

 

Only What Kangana said correct was : Sushant got weak and lost it.

Need to stop blaming the industry.

 

 

 

 

No one has a problem with johar or any other producer  casting whoever they feel they want, it's their money afterall. The issue is about using your influence and stopping other from getting work or planting negative stories about them via your lobby.

 

Where were these guys when poor girl was mentally tortured and had her foetus flushed down the drain which led her to commit suicide? Not only did that criminal escape the law but was launched by SK and no one from the industry bothered cause who wants to be in the bad books of Bhai.

 

From the chargesheet filed by CBI

 

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The tabloid has quoted a source as saying that Jiah was four months pregnant when she informed her boyfriend about the same. The two visited a physician. The Medical Termination of Pregnancy (MTP), however, was not fruitful. After that, Sooraj and Jiah had gone to a gynaecologist who had prescribed stronger medicines.

 

The source added, "After taking the medicine, Khan started hemorrhaging and called Pancholi for help. She was in pain and needed immediate medical attention, but Pancholi allegedly asked her to wait and called up the gynaecologist for guidance. He was asked to rush Khan to hospital as the foetus had probably aborted but had not been expelled from the body, which is probably what led to the hemorrhaging."

 

 

 

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The incident scared Sooraj that his acting career might never see the light of the day if anyone got a whiff of the pregnancy and abortion. Pancholi, instead of taking Jiah to the hospital, extricated the foetus with his hands and disposed it off in the toilet.

 

The incident is said to have left Jiah emotionally shattered, and finally pushed her to kill herself

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/jiah-khan-suicide-sooraj-pancholi-extricated-jiahs-foetus-with-own-hands-cbi-charge-sheet-details-pregnancy-abortion-276518-2015-12-10

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Vivek Oberoi is also a great example of that case.

Stopping others from work is the thing, yes.

But, not life taking thing.

 

Story for another day and unrelated but since we are saying how good he was and the industry ruined him and his career :

 After such incidents, we act as he was the best hero in bollywood whose downfall was solely due to Karan Johar etc.

He was still getting big budget movies,

good acting is not the main factor in Bollywood - selecting hit films and charisma on screen is and he did select some unsuccessful ones.

And ultimately audience make films hit.

 

 

 

 

 

Didn't know about this Jiah khan removal thing, disgraceful and Aditya should have been jailed for this.

This is extreme and beyond an industry and inhumane.

 

 

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RGV dropped quite a few truth bombs on twitter lol. I agree with most of his points. 

 

Also Sushant's father himself didn't know about his depression:

 

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/sushant-singh-rajputs-father-reveals-he-wasnt-aware-about-his-sons-depression-in-his-statement-to-the-mumbai-police/articleshow/76417932.cms

 

 

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On 6/15/2020 at 10:31 PM, KnackChap said:

 

 

No one has a problem with johar or any other producer  casting whoever they feel they want, it's their money afterall. The issue is about using your influence and stopping other from getting work or planting negative stories about them via your lobby.

 

Where were these guys when poor girl was mentally tortured and had her foetus flushed down the drain which led her to commit suicide? Not only did that criminal escape the law but was launched by SK and no one from the industry bothered cause who wants to be in the bad books of Bhai.

 

From the chargesheet filed by CBI

 

 

 

 

https://www.indiatoday.in/movies/celebrities/story/jiah-khan-suicide-sooraj-pancholi-extricated-jiahs-foetus-with-own-hands-cbi-charge-sheet-details-pregnancy-abortion-276518-2015-12-10

Goddamn. Did not know these details. Scarring !

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Guys that's a f**king chargesheet. Whatever is written there might not be even close to what has actually happened. It can be 100% truth or 100% false. People need to understand wtf is a chargesheet. There have been countless chargesheets having even worse accusations out there. People should stop giving judgements before trials are over. I have seen worse chargesheets filed in courts when the actual case was something else entirely.

One of my friend was accused of r@pe, unnatural sex, attempt to murder etc just because he refused to marry the girl in an arranged marriage after finding out her past. His visa was threatened and passport impounded and was arrested on arrival. He never even met the girl in private place where they were alone. If you read his chargesheet, you will think he is A grade sexual predator. He got bail, got cctv footage proving he wasn't even f**king there etc, that girl's mms like videos with previous bfs, filed a lawsuit in US, and now he is going to make sure that girl is put behind bars. It will take at least 10 years to do that thanks to our lame a*s judiciary. Many commit suicide and few fight back. Point is, don't trust the f**king chargesheets or FIR copies.

 

What a girl needs now to file rape case against anyone:

1. A photo of both girl and a guy, preferably a selfie showing they are together at one place

2. A medical certificate showing she is capable of sexual intercourse (no forced sex etc needed)

3. Your contact details

 

That's it. This was as evidence in his chargesheet, and a huge a*s story about description of the crime, completely fabricated.

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37 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

Guys that's a f**king chargesheet. Whatever is written there might not be even close to what has actually happened. It can be 100% truth or 100% false. People need to understand wtf is a chargesheet. There have been countless chargesheets having even worse accusations out there. People should stop giving judgements before trials are over. I have seen worse chargesheets filed in courts when the actual case was something else entirely.

One of my friend was accused of r@pe, unnatural sex, attempt to murder etc just because he refused to marry the girl in an arranged marriage after finding out her past. His visa was threatened and passport impounded and was arrested on arrival. He never even met the girl in private place where they were alone. If you read his chargesheet, you will think he is A grade sexual predator. He got bail, got cctv footage proving he wasn't even f**king there etc, that girl's mms like videos with previous bfs, filed a lawsuit in US, and now he is going to make sure that girl is put behind bars. It will take at least 10 years to do that thanks to our lame a*s judiciary. Many commit suicide and few fight back. Point is, don't trust the f**king chargesheets or FIR copies.

 

What a girl needs now to file rape case against anyone:

1. A photo of both girl and a guy, preferably a selfie showing they are together at one place

2. A medical certificate showing she is capable of sexual intercourse (no forced sex etc needed)

3. Your contact details

 

That's it. This was as evidence in his chargesheet, and a huge a*s story about description of the crime, completely fabricated.

 

I will chargesheet your a*s

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Just now, AnK said:

I don’t understand 

How the f**k Karan Johar,Yash Raj,SRK,Sallu Bhai,Bhansali,Bhat’s & every other big name camp & all their PR machinery were after one poor mid level rising star 

 

Why did all have problem with this small town boy making a name for himself 

 

 

It’s very weird to put out all the big names in the industry & say they are all kingpins ruining young lives trying to make a name for themselves 

 

 

If he had a problem with one particular camp like Vivek with Salman camp or Kangna with Roshan camp then I would have understood 

 

 

But all against one is a bit weird to theorise 

 

 

I think Kangna,Vivek & some others are venting out their own frustrations of how they couldn’t fit in with these big names & had to create work for themselves 

 

 

Karan Johar’s name is coming out quite prominently in this case 

I think there was some beef between him & Rajput 

 

f***** must have wanted to screw him but wouldn’t have had the chance to fulfill his desire 

 

 

again this is also one theory 

I don’t now how anyone is personally when it comes to character 

just assuming possibilities 

 

I think somebody hung him, not related to his beef with all the Dalals and madams or Bollywood.

 

Muh depresshun-to-suicide is also a meme excuse that people like Kangana, Vivek etc using to roast their nepotism, bhai etc type enemies.

 

If muh depresshun was a thing, there are so many actors out there who have gotten fat, weak, depressed, flopped and forgotten, wife left them with hefty alimony, all their bollywood "friends"  treat them like lepers, and "Entertainment Journalists" write sh*t about them in their papers, magazines and websites, if "depression" was as potent as people say, there would be a lot of dudes hanging from their fans from Bollywood.

 

Also no suicide note :rofl:

 

Alas once all this sh*t flinging of asperger's Pahadi actresses screaming NEPOTISM & KJO BAD, and ppl like Vivek and Anurag Kashyap's brother says "ayo Bhai destroyed my career and life yo" people will forget all about this :/

 

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