Movie Discussion Thread Vol. 2

[Zod]

13 hours ago, Unreal said:

Everything should be censored in this age. In fact, Gen Z should tear democracy down and reinstate monarchy.

Why don't u go out on street and Start the protest?  lol

 

You should lead protest like Bangladesh

 

 

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[Zod]

 

 

Im not feeling it. Effects dont look that good.

 

Original waali feel nahi aa rahi hai lol.

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[Zod]

Dhurandhar crossed 500 crore mark.  Haters crying in corner. Lol

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/movies/bollywood/story/dhurandhar-worldwide-box-office-rs-500-crore-at-record-speed-no-slowing-down-2836197-2025-12-15

 

 

 

 

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[Zod]

5 hours ago, Big Boss said:

Propaganda aside, the movie is a must watch for anyone who likes watching movies. The direction, music, acting and the sets are extremely high quality. Violence is also pretty good. 

Pro BJP propaganda is there but very subtle. 

When government changes, Bollywood movie making style also changes. Every movie has some kind of propaganda in it. Hollywood has done Pro American propaganda for decades and they still doing it lol.

 

Congress era was all about showing Pakistan and India friendship where RAW agent is villain and ISI agent good and lot of other nonsense like Veer Zaara and all.

Majority of those movies came from YRF studios and Dharma studios. 

 

 

Now, we are seeing waves pro india, anti Pakistan and pro indian culture  movies from new breed of directos like SS Rahmouli, Rishab Shetty, Vivek Agnihotri and Aditya Dhar. I like it, i prefer this propaganda over previous era Bollywood ppropaganda. I dont want ISI agent romancing RAW agent movies anymore.  I dont want garbage like Tiger, Pathan nd all.

 

 

 

@Sapola

 

 

Speaking of Kashmir files.

 

Have you seen Baramulla netflix series? Its based on Kashmiri pandits exodus. Its also directed by Dhar.  I heard its really good.

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[Unreal]

33 minutes ago, Zod said:

Why don't u go out on street and Start the protest?  lol

 

You should lead protest like Bangladesh

 

 

 

I'm not Gen Z.

[AnK]

2 hours ago, Zod said:

Congress era was all about showing Pakistan and India friendship

Not True.

Border

Sarfarosh 

to name a few…

 

were during Congress Governments but still depicted Pakistan in treacherous bad light.

 

 

Edited December 16, 2025 by AnK

[Sapola]

 

Next 4.5/5 movie for critics

[hazard12345]

3 hours ago, Zod said:

 

 

Im not feeling it. Effects dont look that good.

 

Original waali feel nahi aa rahi hai lol.

Way too CGI, Green screen heavy

[Zod]

1 hour ago, AnK said:

Not True.

Border

Sarfarosh 

to name a few…

 

were during Congress Governments but still depicted Pakistan in treacherous bad light.

 

 

Border was released in 1997 when United Front Government was in power led by HD Dev Gowda as PM made with support  of Coliation  partners along with  Congress giving only outside support, but in 1997 Congress pulls support forcing government to fall. So technically Congress was not in power. 

 

Safarosh was released in 1999 when BJP was in power under leadership of Atal Bihari Vajpayee. 

 

 

 

You think congress in power will allow movies like Kashmir files, Bengal files and Dhurandhar to be released? You damn well know. They wont lol. Their main vote bank will be outraged. 

 

 

 

 

Also Aamir Khan said this in an interview  - 

 

 

Aamir Khan Says CBFC Barred ‘Pakistan’ in Films Before 1998

 

https://www.patrika.com/en/entertainment-news/aamir-khan-says-cbfc-barred-pakistan-in-films-before-1998-19676982

 

 

 

"Aamir Khan on the Censor Board: Bollywood's Mr. Perfectionist, Aamir Khan, recently made a significant revelation on the TV show 'Aap Ki Adalat'. He revealed that before 1998, the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) banned the mention of Pakistan and its intelligence agency, the ISI, in Indian films. Filmmakers were forced to use the term 'neighbouring country' instead of Pakistan in contexts related to terrorism".

 

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[Unreal]

48 minutes ago, hazard12345 said:

Way too CGI, Green screen heavy

 

Looks too gaudy. Won't hold after the level of authenticity depicted in Dhurandhar. None of the upcoming movies from the genre will. Bollywood has no choice but to fundamentally reset itself in the post-Dhurandhar era.

 

EDIT: Anyway, how do you folks even muster up the courage to watch movies like these? Let alone ones like The Kashmir Files? It's like reopening old wounds. I didn't even bother to watch Chaava for this reason until I was forced to.

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[Zod]

3 hours ago, hazard12345 said:

Way too CGI, Green screen heavy

Yeah, CG quality looks bad.

 

They need to hire CG team which works for SS Rajmouli movies. 

 

Also war movies needs to look realistic. Border 2 looks very 90s era film based on trailer plus dont like this Daljit Doshan guy and also dont like Varun Dhawan acting. 

[Zod]

3 hours ago, Unreal said:

 

Looks too gaudy. Won't hold after the level of authenticity depicted in Dhurandhar. None of the upcoming movies from the genre will. Bollywood has no choice but to fundamentally reset itself in the post-Dhurandhar era.

 

EDIT: Anyway, how do you folks even muster up the courage to watch movies like these? Let alone ones like The Kashmir Files? It's like reopening old wounds. I didn't even bother to watch Chaava for this reason until I was forced to.

Yeah these movies hit hard..Evokes lot of emotions. 

 

 

In dhurandhar,  Indian RAW Agent getting tortured and 26/11 scene, both were easily the most difficult scenes for me to watch.

If it was Pakistani or some other gangster getting tortured, i wouldn't have cared but when he said - Indian agent. I just couldn't watch it.

 

And that 26/11 scene was absolutely gutt wrenching.  Scene where a**hole indian journalists were live streaming entire NSG operations for terrorists in Pakistan was making my blood boil and useless coward  government that time did nothing to stop the broadcast or avenge the death of 200 people.

 

 

Anyway,  kudos to Aditya Dhar for making such bold films. He dont care if he faces backlash or criticism for such movies. Indian cinema needs such directors. 

 

Same goes for Vivek Agnihotri. 

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[Zod]

Just wait till lefty gang start attacking SS Rajmouli's Varanasi lol

 

 Movie teaser looked epic and it's shot using IMAX cameras. Made for imax from ground up. Cant wait. Its gonna be epic. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Unreal]

8 hours ago, Zod said:

Yeah these movies hit hard..Evokes lot of emotions. 

 

 

In dhurandhar,  Indian RAW Agent getting tortured and 26/11 scene, both were easily the most difficult scenes for me to watch.

If it was Pakistani or some other gangster getting tortured, i wouldn't have cared but when he said - Indian agent. I just couldn't watch it.

 

And that 26/11 scene was absolutely gutt wrenching.  Scene where a**hole indian journalists were live streaming entire NSG operations for terrorists in Pakistan was making my blood boil and useless coward  government that time did nothing to stop the broadcast or avenge the death of 200 people.

 

 

Anyway,  kudos to Aditya Dhar for making such bold films. He dont care if he faces backlash or criticism for such movies. Indian cinema needs such directors. 

 

Same goes for Vivek Agnihotri. 

 

The violence in Dhurandhar did nothing to me. Guess I've become too desensitised. Agree with the 26/11 feature though, and could understand the great sacrifice of our Indian agents across the world, while scum like Morarji Desai get rewarded with Bharat Ratna in this sh*thole of a country. Even Sunny Leone would be more deserving than him.

[AnK]

13 hours ago, Zod said:

Border was released in 1997 when United Front Government was in power led by HD Dev Gowda as PM made with support  of Coliation  partners along with  Congress giving only outside support, but in 1997 Congress pulls support forcing government to fall. So technically Congress was not in power. 

 

Safarosh was released in 1999 when BJP was in power under leadership of Atal Bihari Vajpayee. 

 

 

 

You think congress in power will allow movies like Kashmir files, Bengal files and Dhurandhar to be released? You damn well know. They wont lol. Their main vote bank will be outraged. 

 

 

 

 

Also Aamir Khan said this in an interview  - 

 

 

Aamir Khan Says CBFC Barred ‘Pakistan’ in Films Before 1998

 

https://www.patrika.com/en/entertainment-news/aamir-khan-says-cbfc-barred-pakistan-in-films-before-1998-19676982

 

 

 

"Aamir Khan on the Censor Board: Bollywood's Mr. Perfectionist, Aamir Khan, recently made a significant revelation on the TV show 'Aap Ki Adalat'. He revealed that before 1998, the Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) banned the mention of Pakistan and its intelligence agency, the ISI, in Indian films. Filmmakers were forced to use the term 'neighbouring country' instead of Pakistan in contexts related to terrorism".

 

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Atal Bihari Vajpayee was sworn in & took office in October 1999.

Sarfarosh was released in April 1999.

 

Also I.K. Gujral was the PM (a congress pawn) when Border Released while still under congress support.

 

I know movies like Dhurandhar wouldn’t be green lit if it was congress (let alone Kashmir or any other files).

 

But it is what it is.

 

Sarfarosh was a very good start to tell the world how ISI is bleeding India & BJP had nothing to do with it & it wouldn’t have been possible without a Khan of Bollywood.

 

Truth should never be overshadowed by noise.

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[Zod]

41 minutes ago, AnK said:

Atal Bihari Vajpayee was sworn in & took office in October 1999.

Sarfarosh was released in April 1999.

 

Also I.K. Gujral was the PM (a congress pawn) when Border Released while still under congress support.

 

I know movies like Dhurandhar wouldn’t be green lit if it was congress (let alone Kashmir or any other files).

 

But it is what it is.

 

Sarfarosh was a very good start to tell the world how ISI is bleeding India & BJP had nothing to do with it & it wouldn’t have been possible without a Khan of Bollywood.

 

Truth should never be overshadowed by noise.

You didn't do full research.

 

From 1998 to 1999 Vajpayee was in power for 1 year.  United Front government fell in 1998, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, won the general election that followed. Vajpayee government won again in 1999 and stayed in power till 2004.

 

India had two general elections back to back and NDA won both. 1998 -1999 lasted 1 year and 1999 one lasted full 5 years. Im Glad we dont have to deal 20 parties alliance Coliation anymore. 

 

Sarfarosh was released under Bjp rule. Movie like Sarfarosh impossible under Congress rule. It was government policy not allow certification for anti Pakistan or Anti ISI movies.  Check the link i posted of Aamir khan, he said clearly before 1998, we were told not to name Pakistan or ISI in movies. Sarfarosh was possible coz Congress  was not in power. He himself saying it. What more proof you need?

 

 

 

 

Border is only one exception i can think of, I guess that time Congress couldn't do much about Border as in 1997 they were busy managing very fragile unstable Coliation of United Front by giving outside support.

 

 

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[AnK]

12 minutes ago, Zod said:

You didn't do full research.

 

From 1998 to 1999 Vajpayee was in power for 1 year.  United Front government fell in 1998, the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), led by Atal Bihari Vajpayee, won the general election that followed. Vajpayee government won again in 1999 and stayed in power till 2004.

This Government had collapsed in April….the month in which Sarfarosh released.

 

Nit picking dates aside….we all know it takes years to place your own ppl in various institutions of the country.

 

So it’s safe to say the censor & regulatory boards were deeply in congress’s pockets until much later years of NDA-1.

 

Sarfarosh getting green lit & produced & then released was totally outside of any sort of right wing influence.

 

Same goes for Border.

[Zod]

25 minutes ago, AnK said:

This Government had collapsed in April….the month in which Sarfarosh released.

 

Nit picking dates aside….we all know it takes years to place your own ppl in various institutions of the country.

 

So it’s safe to say the censor & regulatory boards were deeply in congress’s pockets until much later years of NDA-1.

 

Sarfarosh getting green lit & produced & then released was totally outside of any sort of right wing influence.

 

Same goes for Border.

United Front collapsed in 1997. Election were held in 1998 and then Government collapsed again in 1999 April, after that President Rule was imposed till October same year and then Vajpayee was selected again. Sarfarosh was released right aroud when Government collapsed and president rule was imposed. CBFC people were pro BJP government that time. Censor Board governance always changes based on who in power. Congress was not in power from 1998 to 2004. Everything is crystal clear, there's no nitpicking on dates. Its all mentioned in records. 

 

 

 

And yes, i appreciate Aamir for going against  the ecosystem and making movie like Sarfarosh, but nothing changes the fact that he clearly said we were NOT allowed to make anti ISI or anti Pakistan movies before 1998. He specifically mentioned the year for a reason. 

 

Here's the video

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Sapola]

You guys are reading too much into the political interference that happens in the movie 

 

A lot of good movies get made without someone poking, a lot of bad movies get made with political backing.

 

In the end, movies or any sort of entertainment doesn't *enlighten" anyone, it just confirms your biases and give you feeling that you were right.

All movies have propoganda, you choose to swallow it or spit at it.

[AnK]

57 minutes ago, Zod said:

Censor Board governance always changes based on who in power.

It doesn’t happen instantaneously.

Specially when there is a weak coalition government where ppl know it’d be dropping anytime.

 

Takes time for tenures & replacements.

 

Right wing wasn’t influencing Bollywood at all before the 2000’s.

 

Border & Sarfarosh & Bombay were organically released without any political influences or affiliations.

 

It was the mood of the nation & that’s sarvochh & sarva priya 🙌🏽 

Edited December 17, 2025 by AnK