Official PlayStation Plus thread

[triggr happy ss]

12 minutes ago, radicaldude said:

Its clear Sony doesnt need to give their games out as a form of langar. They sell in millions anyways

 

Only when you dont have games to show, but a lot of money in daddys bank, you can afford to give out old games + unfinished (new games?) on a platter.

Dont be salty bro 

lets be honest its better to have a daddy who can afford a ferrari .

 

Its good to see Ms investing into something we love ,but you guys with your opinions are always so negative just because you see it as a threat to sony.

 

I have said it multiple times this is going to be the best generation for all 3 console manufacturers so there is no need to be so insecure.

 

[radicaldude]

Wonder how/why people expect sony to give their games day one on a service.

 

Games that are aaa blockbusters

 

games that turn out to be must play on meta

 

games that end up defining a generation

 

 

However no one ever expects the same from nintendo.

 

People happily pay $60 for hd remasters disguised as remakes.

 

Wonder what changes then

Edited April 9, 2022 by radicaldude

[AnK]

33 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

 

 

Its good to see Ms investing into something we love ,but you guys with your opinions are always so negative just because you see it as a threat to sony.

 

 

That was never the nub of the debate. 
M$ can do whatever the f**k they want. 
 

They can ask daddy to shed clothes & do nanga nichavar dance for Xbox fans for all I care. 
 

Problem arises when GamesPass subscribers expect Sony or even Nintendo to give away their class A content on peanut subscription schemes just coz M$ is “envisioned” to turn it into a trend somewhere in the distant future. 

[triggr happy ss]

4 minutes ago, AnK said:

 

That was never the nub of the debate. 
M$ can do whatever the f**k they want. 
 

They can ask daddy to shed clothes & do nanga nichavar dance for Xbox fans for all I care. 
 

Problem arises when GamesPass subscribers expect Sony or even Nintendo to give away their class A content on peanut subscription schemes just coz M$ is “envisioned” to turn it into a trend somewhere in the distant future. 

Ya its too soon to expect sony to do that ,but its a guarantee it will happen after a few years .

All it needs is for a few ponies to say the words “ Sony will never do this”

 

Lets be clear sony has already done a list of things its loyal fanboys didnt expect which were desperate things only xbox was doing to survive .

[radicaldude]

4 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

Ya its too soon to expect sony to do that ,but its a guarantee it will happen after a few years .

All it needs is for a few ponies to say the words “ Sony will never do this”

 

Lets be clear sony has already done a list of things its loyal fanboys didnt expect which were desperate things only xbox was doing to survive .

 

 

THey would never do something that would hurt their revenue streams.

 

Its like expecting the next mario/zelda games would be a gaas based live service.

[radicaldude]

Expecting Japanese companies to emulate American ways of doing business is nothing but living in a fool's paradise. 

 

Japan and us are culturally different. 

[AnK]

4 minutes ago, radicaldude said:

 

 

THey would never do something that would hurt their revenue streams.

THIS!!! 
 

 

End of the day it’s about making money & not shed a lot of what you have in hopes of some envisioned future. 
 

M$ can afford to do that & it is… 

Sony or Nintendo won’t unless it makes sense commercially. 
 

I have reply ready on why it doesn’t & waiting for Vs thread to reopen……..

 

Let’s not crap these anymore. 

[Walker]

How very magnanimous after this sh*t is dragged into every thread 

[AnK]

1 hour ago, Walker said:

How very magnanimous after this sh*t is dragged into every thread 

Bada he thankless aadmi hai. 
 

Ek toh bol raha hu har thread mai wait for Vs thread. 
(for something I didn’t even initiate) 

mujhpe he chad raha hai 

 

 

 

[Ethan_Hunt]

4 hours ago, radicaldude said:

Expecting Japanese companies to emulate American ways of doing business is nothing but living in a fool's paradise. 

 

Japan and us are culturally different. 

 

Except it's not. They may be culturally different, but once Eastern companies enter into the Western markets, they'd need to alter part of their approach to cater to the respective market and/or adapt to market trends. A very simple example would be when PSN launched initially, it was free. They pretty much emulated XBL's Gold strategy, turned it into Playstation+ and started charging consumers. Even now, Sony saw how immensely popular Game Pass as as service is and decided to modify their own subscription service into various tiers. These are all business decisions and nothing to do with culture, same goes for Day-1 releases. If it's not financially viable for the company to take that hit, then it's pretty evident they won't go down that road. 

[radicaldude]

1 hour ago, Ethan_Hunt said:

 

, same goes for Day-1 releases. If it's not financially viable for the company to take that hit, then it's pretty evident they won't go down that road. 

 

 

They have mentioned this several times already. Day 1 releases are not for them,

 

 

maybe those GAAS based/ Live service games, sure.

 

 

But not their bread and butter aaa blockbuster SP heavy titles.

Edited April 9, 2022 by radicaldude

[triggr happy ss]

4 minutes ago, radicaldude said:

 

 

They have mentioned this several times already. Day 1 releases are not for them,

 

 

maybe those GAAS based/ Live service games, sure.

 

 

But not their bread and butter aaa blockbuster SP heavy titles.

Yes we believe every word he says 

 

 

Ryan was also keen to point out that nothing about the new service is set in stone. “All I’m talking to today is the approach we’re taking in the short term. The way our publishing model works right now, it doesn’t make any sense. But things can change very quickly in this industry, as we all know.”

Edited April 9, 2022 by triggr happy ss

[radicaldude]

Just now, triggr happy ss said:

Yes we believe every word he says 

 

 

Ryan was also keen to point out that nothing about the new service is set in stone. “All I’m talking to today is the approach we’re taking in the short term. The way our publishing model works right now, it doesn’t make any sense. But things can change very quickly in this industry, as we all know.”

 

 

I hope you like to eat your words with some extra salt and pepper.

 

You will have to eat these words soon ( like several times in the past).

[Soultrader92]

6 hours ago, triggr happy ss said:

but you guys with your opinions are always so negative just because you see it as a threat to sony.

I think a lot of people who have issues with asking sony to give away flagship first party games as day 1 on service, have these issues not because they see it as a threat to sony, but because they see it as a threat to future of single player games. Profit incentive is what keeps studios invested in making these games, if they become unprofitable to develop, the industry will naturally get tilted towards service based games, that can turn a better profit. Sure you can argue that somebody else will develop as long as there is demand, but the problem is that this capacity exists as an ecosystem, it doesnt come up in a jiffy. if a sufficient dent is made in the profitability of single player games, then there is a good chance there would be a very long gap before games of such quality come out again.. if ever. 

For me at least its not at all a MS vs Sony thing, but about the viability of single player games which I have always enjoyed. 

[radicaldude]

16 minutes ago, Soultrader92 said:

I think a lot of people who have issues with asking sony to give away flagship first party games as day 1 on service, have these issues not because they see it as a threat to sony, but because they see it as a threat to future of single player games. Profit incentive is what keeps studios invested in making these games, if they become unprofitable to develop, the industry will naturally get tilted towards service based games, that can turn a better profit. Sure you can argue that somebody else will develop as long as there is demand, but the problem is that this capacity exists as an ecosystem, it doesnt come up in a jiffy. if a sufficient dent is made in the profitability of single player games, then there is a good chance there would be a very long gap before games of such quality come out again.. if ever. 

For me at least its not at all a MS vs Sony thing, but about the viability of single player games which I have always enjoyed. 

 

 

I think they'll put their live service titles day 1 on ps plus, and use that money to make even better sp titles. 

[Vaibhavp]

24 minutes ago, Soultrader92 said:

I think a lot of people who have issues with asking sony to give away flagship first party games as day 1 on service, have these issues not because they see it as a threat to sony, but because they see it as a threat to future of single player games. Profit incentive is what keeps studios invested in making these games, if they become unprofitable to develop, the industry will naturally get tilted towards service based games, that can turn a better profit. 

 

Subscription service will make games like Returnal risk free. 

 

It sold half a million copies. Definitely is in loss once you account for retailer profit margin, shipping, handling of physical copies etc.

[radicaldude]

3 minutes ago, Vaibhavp said:

 

Subscription service will make games like Returnal risk free. 

 

It sold half a million copies. Definitely is in loss once you account for retailer profit margin, shipping, handling of physical copies etc.

 

 

Itll sell more as the price drops + BAFTA award

[Ethan_Hunt]

50 minutes ago, radicaldude said:

They have mentioned this several times already. Day 1 releases are not for them,

 

maybe those GAAS based/ Live service games, sure.

 

But not their bread and butter aaa blockbuster SP heavy titles.

 

When they say it's "not for them", it's very clearly said from a financial standpoint for their exclusives. For Microsoft, that would be chump change in a bid to gain a broader subscriber base, hook them to the service and get them addicted to it. With Microsoft's acquisitions, it would build confidence in existing (and prospective) subscribers that they will have a host of catalogue ready for them day-1 and for the entirety of the subscription's duration. Sony hasn't even commented on the duration of their exclusive content being on their new tier service. Just throwing around 700+ games boast is not something I'm interested in. The quality of the titles in it will ultimately determine it's worth. Streaming hasn't even launched in India, so we're sh*t out of luck with the PS3 titles. They have a good first party PS4 catalogue which can be leveraged and 3rd party next generation upgraded titles for the PS5 owners can be added. 

[rushab oswal]

I thought there was some new info on subscription tiers.

well its the same crap all over again 

[Assassins Creed]

On 4/9/2022 at 11:11 PM, rushab oswal said:

I thought there was some new info on subscription tiers.

well its the same crap all over again 

 

Didn't read back.. but new tiers are being defended now?