dylanjosh Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, KnackChap said: Still the only company to outright pull it off their platform while others did nothing. And I don't think their internal QC team is there to check performance, it's whether the game runs or not. Performance related checks are up to the developers. Sure I'll give them credit for pulling it after public outcry, but that was a bad example since it was driven by public not by them internally. And it wasn't just performance but lots of fatal crashes. Edited July 1, 2021 by dylanjosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Just like njntendo, sony wants to maintain standards. Also, has the biggest market share in console gaming. This matters a lot when it comes to up front "advertisement" fees. Eshop is filled with bottom barrel 99 cent or 1 USD games (discount of 99% !) and since they sell volumes, they almost always hit front page charts. But Nintendo does promote quality Indies much better than Sony. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Eshop is filled with bottom barrel 99 cent or 1 USD games (discount of 99% !) and since they sell volumes, they almost always hit front page charts. But Nintendo does promote quality Indies much better than Sony. Actually their hardware is best suited for indies. That night be a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, radicaldude said: Actually their hardware is best suited for indies. That night be a reason. Shoot some Mario in my veins and I will be happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Shoot some Mario in my veins and I will be happy. Some indies are best suited for handhelds. Golf story for example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Just like njntendo, sony wants to maintain standards. Also, has the biggest market share in console gaming. This matters a lot when it comes to up front "advertisement" fees. Keep in mind its not a small gap. Its a MASSIVE gap. Just look at these charts. Sony is f**king up hard somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, dylanjosh said: Keep in mind its not a small gap. Its a MASSIVE gap. Just look at these charts. Sony is f**king up hard somewhere. But switch is catching up slowly. PS4+ps5 is a huge market share. It's so large, even sony themselves have dumped the we believe in generations quote. @dylanjosh I misread those pie charts. People don't play indies much on ps due to the cost alone? Ps- my original post was about why $25k may be charged. Edited July 1, 2021 by radicaldude 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, dylanjosh said: Keep in mind its not a small gap. Its a MASSIVE gap. Just look at these charts. Sony is f**king up hard somewhere. My assumption is those high numbers are on Nintendo ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: My assumption is those high numbers are on Nintendo ? in the first chart its Steam, in the 2nd chart its Nintendo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: My assumption is those high numbers are on Nintendo ? First image- I guess the person is referring to steam. (Max share of the pie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 minute ago, dylanjosh said: in the first chart its Steam, in the 2nd chart its Nintendo 1 minute ago, radicaldude said: First image- I guess the person is referring to steam. (Max share of the pie) Makes sense. Also Half Life 3 confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Btw, Vita still attracts indie developers https://www.ign.com/articles/the-playstation-vitas-legacy-is-more-important-than-its-sales-numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazyniks Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, radicaldude said: 20 mil plus in a year Edited July 1, 2021 by Krazyniks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, radicaldude said: Btw, Vita still attracts indie developers https://www.ign.com/articles/the-playstation-vitas-legacy-is-more-important-than-its-sales-numbers They need to make a portable playstation again, copying the Switch USP of it being a low end home console also, just sell the "dock" seperately, or bundle it with the handheld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, PhantomShade said: They need to make a portable playstation again, copying the Switch USP of it being a low end home console also, just sell the "dock" seperately, or bundle it with the handheld. https://screenrant.com/sony-handhelds-not-planned-playstation-vita/ In 2019, they had patented something, which people were deeming as a battery for its next handheld. Don't know what happened to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, radicaldude said: https://screenrant.com/sony-handhelds-not-planned-playstation-vita/ In 2019, they had patented something, which people were deeming as a battery for its next handheld. Don't know what happened to it. I know that officially they have "nothing planned" but still wish they made a portable console, these Monster Hunter, Persona type games are very well suited for portable gaming imo In any case like all big wig companies of past like IBM they will probably end up as a Game Publisher/"Services" company only in 5-10 years time like SEGA is now. Not that I mind, best studios in gaming are under Sony/PS, ND, SSM, Insomniac, SP and a few more. Edited July 1, 2021 by PhantomShade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted July 1, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 Imo Sony & ninty have realised that they don't have the resources to make & support software for both handheld & home Console together. The only way I see sony making a handheld is if they miraculously manage to run every ps5 & previous gen games on it natively which can not happen. Expect a streaming only device from both (sony & ms) in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 13 minutes ago, KnackChap said: Imo Sony & ninty have realised that they don't have the resources to make & support software for both handheld & home Console together. The only way I see sony making a handheld is if they miraculously manage to run every ps5 & previous gen games on it natively which can not happen. Expect a streaming only device from both (sony & ms) in the future. Now is the time for something like psp go 2. However they would have to make it powerful enough to atleast give a PS4 esque experience on the handheld. Maybe dlss will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 16 minutes ago, KnackChap said: Imo Sony & ninty have realised that they don't have the resources to make & support software for both handheld & home Console together. The only way I see sony making a handheld is if they miraculously manage to run every ps5 & previous gen games on it natively which can not happen. Expect a streaming only device from both (sony & ms) in the future. Also, people hardly play story intensive games on the go. Switch is popular because it has complimentary games as well like Mario Kart, Animal Crossing, Donkey Kong etc. One can easily pick these games up at any point and be good to go, doesn't matter even if you are half asleep. No need to think about the story or the controls. Sony needs to invest in such games first before thinking about going portable. Right now they are concentrated on AAA single players. MS seems a bit better placed in this space because of the games like Ori and Minecraft. A forza horizon spin off can work great and also if they can bring partnerships like Cuphead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 1, 2021 Report Share Posted July 1, 2021 1 hour ago, KunjanPSD said: Donkey Kong Please try going back to DK after a couple of weeks of gap. It's a pretty hard platformer, and controls can f*** you bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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