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[triggr happy ss]

yes we should believe these twitter fanboys

Edited January 30, 2022 by triggr happy ss

[gecko89]

52 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

yes we should believe these twitter fanboys

As of Nov, Sony had 14Billion left out of 18Billion set up for strategic investments/acquisitions.

 

Take Two will not happen, but Capcom or Konami or Square Enix are definitely under the realm of possibility.

 

Ubilol I don't think the French govt would let.

Edited January 30, 2022 by gecko89

[gecko89]

12 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Absolutely no one knew of the Bethesda or Actiblizz acquisitions. If an acquisition was happening, it wouldn't be a rumor. 

If an acquisition is being evaluated. No one at Sony other than their Corp dev and execs know. And i doubt those people are muttering sh*t to rando "insiders". 

Sure, no one knew of ActBlizz acquisition until maybe 30mins before official announcement by MS. But that does not mean there shouldn't be rumblings of acquisitions in the industry.

 

Sony lost 20Billion off their market value over night, it's not farfetched to assume they might be looking to use the money they set aside for acquisitions.

 

Not saying these guys are right. I'm only telling trigger that it's under the realm of possibility.

[triggr happy ss]

4 minutes ago, gecko89 said:

Sure, no one knew of ActBlizz acquisition until maybe 30mins before official announcement by MS. But that does not mean there shouldn't be rumblings of acquisitions in the industry.

 

Sony lost 20Billion off their market value over night, it's not farfetched to assume they might be looking to use the money they set aside for acquisitions.

 

Not saying these guys are right. I'm only telling trigger that it's under the realm of possibility.

Obviously it will happen ,but expecting fanboy on twitter to know is just laughable.

 

Also all the best to sony to buy a publisher for billions and keep it locked to a single console . I expect day 1 PC games coming sooner than expected. 

[gecko89]

22 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

Obviously it will happen ,but expecting fanboy on twitter to know is just laughable.

Fair enough. Wouldn't be surprised if these guys are speaking out of their butts. 

[Soultrader92]

18 minutes ago, triggr happy ss said:

Obviously it will happen ,but expecting fanboy on twitter to know is just laughable.

 

Also all the best to sony to buy a publisher for billions and keep it locked to a single console . I expect day 1 PC games coming sooner than expected. 

yeah twitter is not the best source, but Take two is a good bet for what sony might acquire. Its stock is somewhat undervalued at the moment, and its previous acquisition of Zynga would work well for Sony overall. And its no secret that they need to start making their own acquisitions, its not just about having studios that can put out exclusives for your console ecosystem anymore. its not like they dont have the money either.

[KnackChap]

Take 2 IP's fit well with sony but the organization would be a white elephant in Sonys hand. Also take 2 X sony rumors have been going on from PS3 days too & nothing's ever happened. 

[Aercy]

43 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Take 2 valuation - 18 billion even after the crash. To acquire (even if they want to sell which I doubt), Sony will have to pay at least 27 billion. 50% premium over market is pretty standard especially when the price is beaten down. Sony doesn't have that kind of money. 

Sony can always ‘raise’ that kind of money

[Snake]

1 hour ago, KnackChap said:

Take 2 IP's fit well with sony but the organization would be a white elephant in Sonys hand. Also take 2 X sony rumors have been going on from PS3 days too & nothing's ever happened. 

Rather get Capcom, squeenix, kojipro, kudokawa with that kinda money

[roun90]

Sony getting into a acquisition/spending war with MS is laughable. MS has, and will always have more money than Sony. You can also bet that if someone like Take Two is up for grabs, MS will put in the $$s offer for it.

 

Sony can maybe acquire Kojima Productions. They have synergy already, and KojiPro should not be too expensive. But that is a bad investment IMO. First, Kojima should be willing to sell, and work under someone else again. It's a private firm afaik. 

 

Even if that happens though, KojiPro also depends too much on one man. They have 1 IP at the moment (Death Stranding), which IMO is not even a major IP. Also, if Kojima retires or leaves the company, then any hype the company has comes crashing down.

 

Capcom/SE/Other Japanese devs like SEGA, have too many other interests outside games. They are into gambling, casinos, theme parks, real estate etc. They use their video game IPs to promote their gambling business as well (RE themed Pachinko Machines for example). I don't think Sony is going to step into any of those. Same reason why MS is not going to acquire them.

 

Kadokawa is a good bet. The only likely one in fact. Mainly because Sony acquired Crunchyroll, and Kadokawa is a major player in the anime/manga business. They get From Software also, as a part of the deal.

 

But the problem is, is Sony even considered a Japanese company anymore? They relocated to California, and identify as a US firm last I heard. AFAIK, there are laws in Japan to prevent take over by foreign firms.

 

As for Ubisoft/EA/Take-Two, it's laughable. Tencent is one of the major share-holders of Ubisoft AFAIK. I don't think they will be willing to sell, and Sony cannot cough up enough money to satisfy them. EA will also be too expensive, what with all the premium licences they have, and the amount of studios under them. Currently I don't think even Satya will authorize EA's purchase. Take-Two, see above.

[rushab oswal]

13 hours ago, radicaldude said:

 

 

 

 

YEah LOL XD

[hsk_colossus]

1 minute ago, rushaboswal said:

YEah LOL XD

That escalated quickly! 

[roun90]

14 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Kojima isn't going to sell out right after being independent and suffering under a major publisher. He isn't hurting for money and can get funding for anything he dreams up in an instant. Zero motivation to sell. 

 

Ubisoft management worked extremely hard to thwart a hostile takeover by Vivendi only couple years back. They clearly don't want to lose control. 

 

EA equity is valued less than Actiblizz but again why would they sell? 

 

I mean, logically why would investors sell their stake in a market leader in a fast growing industry unless they get a massive premium. It doesn't make any sense. 

 

Yup, 100% agree. There literally is no motivation to sell from any of the parties. EA maybe can go for a hostile take-over, but only MS or similar companies can afford that kind of moolah. AFAIK, it's above Sony's pay grade.

 

Surprised that ActiBlizz was above EA though. I mean, ActiBlizz has been dragged through the mud for quite some time. And EA has franchises that would negate the Call Of Duty advantage (Namely, the annual Sports Franchises, even if you don't count Battlefield). Plus, they also have Star Wars, and far more studios than ActiBlizz. Wonder why they were valued less than ActiBlizz?

Edited January 31, 2022 by roun90

[psinide]

IMO buying a publisher/studio as a reaction to the ActiBlizz takeover doesn't make any sense. Sony has its USP studios which churn out GOTY level games almost annually. Sony will probably wait and watch and assess the actual impact of the Bethesda+ActiBlizz takeovers. The biggest money maker is COD and for MS to exclude one of the largest platforms does not make sense. They also need to make their money back after sinking 68 billion, and that makes me think we'll see COD as multi-plat for the foreseeable future. There will be a long incubation period to change the culture, vision, roadmaps at Bethesda and ActiBlizz, until then, I think MS will maintain status quo.

Sony can do their due diligence and pick up a studio that suits them once the opportunity presents. 

[Aercy]

8 minutes ago, psinide said:

IMO buying a publisher/studio as a reaction to the ActiBlizz takeover doesn't make any sense. Sony has its USP studios which churn out GOTY level games almost annually. Sony will probably wait and watch and assess the actual impact of the Bethesda+ActiBlizz takeovers. The biggest money maker is COD and for MS to exclude one of the largest platforms does not make sense. They also need to make their money back after sinking 68 billion, and that makes me think we'll see COD as multi-plat for the foreseeable future. There will be a long incubation period to change the culture, vision, roadmaps at Bethesda and ActiBlizz, until then, I think MS will maintain status quo.

Sony can do their due diligence and pick up a studio that suits them once the opportunity presents. 

Exactly, Sony has no reason to play Microsoft’s game. The bad games in the PS+ every month could be an indication that they are holding onto the good ones for their library-subscription. Hoping for a reasonably priced upgrade option from the PS+. If it is a separate subscription, then it would be bummer.

[SaiKO]

Ok, Update for bricked ps5. 
 

I dropped off the Bricked PS5 to sony service centre today. They only just took the ps5 unit, bill invoice and the warranty card without the box and rest of the contents such as cables and controller.

 

I enquired and they assured me that I will be receiving a new sealed unit as ps5 can’t be repaired in India as of now. 
 

It will take around 10-12 days for replacement. They also told me that I might need to bring the box and the content on the day of replacement as they said that headquarter might send them the whole boxed unit in which case I have to provide the box and content for this one. Which they will update me before. 
 

I will also receive a new warranty card which will carry forward to rest of the warranty period. 
 

so far so good. 

Edited January 31, 2022 by SaiKO

[Guest]

22 minutes ago, roun90 said:

Surprised that ActiBlizz was above EA though. I mean, ActiBlizz has been dragged through the mud for quite some time. And EA has franchises that would negate the Call Of Duty advantage (Namely, the annual Sports Franchises, even if you don't count Battlefield). Plus, they also have Star Wars, and far more studios than ActiBlizz. Wonder why they were valued less than ActiBlizz?

 

Because Call of Duty still a behemoth and ATVI makes more than EA. The King mobile department brings a lot too. EA messed up with Battlefield and doesn't have mobile games doing well like King level. Only sports stuff generate most of income for them. 

[Heaven Angel]

Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order reportedly done beyond expectations. They have Star Wars license, Battlefield, Need for Speed, Dragon Age. EA have to make good use of them just like FO. They'll fly rather than float.