The Playstation 5 thread

[Sach4life]

14 minutes ago, playstationdude said:

Yup same. I dont like vr headsets in general but vr2 looks amazing, ngl

 

I would eventually get a headset this year, PSVR2 or Quest 3. I feel VR is a great new way to experience games and definitely has a place going forward

[Bauji]

13 hours ago, playstationdude said:

Ive also read online that you can use it as a giant a*s oled tv for normal movies and games

This was there in PSVR too, offcourse not OLED though. Problem is this giant a*s tv is so much in your face, that I used to feel way more nauseous using this mode than while playing a proper VR game. Imagine watching a movie in theatre sitting very close to the giant screen.

[playstationdude]

22 minutes ago, Bauji said:

This was there in PSVR too, offcourse not OLED though. Problem is this giant a*s tv is so much in your face, that I used to feel way more nauseous using this mode than while playing a proper VR game. Imagine watching a movie in theatre sitting very close to the giant screen.

Vr2 has a proper 4k hdr display, so there is that. I've also read reviewers mentioning this headset did not make them nauseous, while vr1 did. Dont know though

[KunjanPSD]

Just now, playstationdude said:

Vr2 has a proper 4k hdr display, so there is that. I've also read reviewers mentioning this headset did not make them nauseous, while vr1 did. Dont know though

Very unlikely that the experience will be comparable to an OLED when it comes to movie watching or non-VR games. Otherwise Sony would have been promoting this, right? Maybe the screen wouldn't be flat and movies/non-VR games wouldn't be able to take advantage of the curvature.

[Bauji]

2 hours ago, playstationdude said:

Vr2 has a proper 4k hdr display, so there is that. I've also read reviewers mentioning this headset did not make them nauseous, while vr1 did. Dont know though

There was no setting to adjust that screen size,maybe they have added it now. That mode was a life saver when my TV damaged during covid lockdown. Played several normal games using this mode. Haven't faced any issues with games like The evil within 2, Little Nightmares etc but while playing SoTR after an hour or so I felt like ?

[VelivolusDas]

Never learn, Sony. Never learn.

 

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/02/sony-somehow-screwed-up-the-legend-of-dragoon-on-ps5-ps4

 

Memory leaks, softlocks, and more

 

The most prominent problem we've ran into is that battles can softlock the game — which is the kind of thing that makes you wonder whether anyone even tested this version of the title. These softlocks tend to occur when you make use of a character's Dragoon form — a core combat mechanic hours into the adventure — and unleash a handful of attacks.

 

For whatever reason, the game doesn't agree with this, and if you keep using your Dragoon forms in the way the experience intends, battles start locking up. The game still runs — the music still plays and character models remain in their idle animations — but the command menu disappears and there's no way to interact with what's on screen. You've got no choice but to either close the game or use the emulator's rewind function to return to a point before you used the Dragoon mechanic — but that's only a temporary fix, as the softlock rolls back around eventually.

 

Shocking stuff, but it arguably gets even worse. As discussed on the aforementioned forums, there's also some kind of memory leak to contend with. If you play The Legend of Dragoon for an extended period of time — for say, two or three hours without closing the application — you start running into audio bugs and, again, battle system softlocks.

 

And on top of all this, you've got a sprinkling of minor issues, like flickering environmental details, clipping character models, and light blue outlines appearing over prerendered backgrounds. Put simply, it's a bit of a mess.

 

Given how beloved The Legend of Dragoon is in some parts of the PlayStation community, the state of this emulation is a real kicker. We can only hope that Sony releases an update in the near future, because there's just no way this classic PS1 JRPG should have launched like this.

Edited February 24 by VelivolusDas

[gecko89]

38 minutes ago, VelivolusDas said:

Never learn, Sony. Never learn.

 

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/02/sony-somehow-screwed-up-the-legend-of-dragoon-on-ps5-ps4

 

Memory leaks, softlocks, and more

 

The most prominent problem we've ran into is that battles can softlock the game — which is the kind of thing that makes you wonder whether anyone even tested this version of the title. These softlocks tend to occur when you make use of a character's Dragoon form — a core combat mechanic hours into the adventure — and unleash a handful of attacks.

 

For whatever reason, the game doesn't agree with this, and if you keep using your Dragoon forms in the way the experience intends, battles start locking up. The game still runs — the music still plays and character models remain in their idle animations — but the command menu disappears and there's no way to interact with what's on screen. You've got no choice but to either close the game or use the emulator's rewind function to return to a point before you used the Dragoon mechanic — but that's only a temporary fix, as the softlock rolls back around eventually.

 

Shocking stuff, but it arguably gets even worse. As discussed on the aforementioned forums, there's also some kind of memory leak to contend with. If you play The Legend of Dragoon for an extended period of time — for say, two or three hours without closing the application — you start running into audio bugs and, again, battle system softlocks.

 

And on top of all this, you've got a sprinkling of minor issues, like flickering environmental details, clipping character models, and light blue outlines appearing over prerendered backgrounds. Put simply, it's a bit of a mess.

 

Given how beloved The Legend of Dragoon is in some parts of the PlayStation community, the state of this emulation is a real kicker. We can only hope that Sony releases an update in the near future, because there's just no way this classic PS1 JRPG should have launched like this.

Jeez, did they even test this.

 

How does this pass QA?! Seems like they slapped trophies to it and pushed it to the store ?

[VelivolusDas]

On 2/25/2023 at 2:40 AM, VelivolusDas said:

Never learn, Sony. Never learn.

 

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2023/02/sony-somehow-screwed-up-the-legend-of-dragoon-on-ps5-ps4

 

Memory leaks, softlocks, and more

 

Supposedly fixed now!

 

 

[0verlord]

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4

[Krazyniks]

9 minutes ago, 0verlord said:

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4

I don't see any of the above happening in any industry let alone gaming  

[playstationdude]

25 minutes ago, 0verlord said:

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4

Nah, this is way too convoluted to implement. Also price needs to be the same for everyone, can't ask people to pay more based on spending habits

[radicaldude]

12 minutes ago, playstationdude said:

Nah, this is way too convoluted to implement. Also price needs to be the same for everyone, can't ask people to pay more based on spending habits

 

 

Those who want to pay more, are anyways doing so. They go for ultimate editions (with season passes) / CE/ steelbook editions of games.

[CarbonCore]

https://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/2023/html/20230228_announcement_EN.html

 

Luminous merging with SE, not even a month after Forspoken  

 

[Sach4life]

2 hours ago, 0verlord said:

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4

 

[b!T]

2 hours ago, 0verlord said:

 asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

Yes, Rich people can be discriminated against just because they are rich  Bruh, what are you on?

[0verlord]

1 hour ago, b!T said:

 

Yes, Rich people can be discriminated against just because they are rich  Bruh, what are you on?

Lol, you seem to be new to the world of taxation specifically inheritance tax / estate tax

[RV1709]

5 hours ago, 0verlord said:

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4

this is what happens when consumers start to think strategy ?

[Assassins Creed]

3 hours ago, RV1709 said:

this is what happens when consumers start to think strategy ?

 

Or

 

 

[b!T]

3 hours ago, 0verlord said:

Lol, you seem to be new to the world of taxation specifically inheritance tax / estate tax

 

 yes, having different price for different people for a product is same as taxation.

[Snake]

15 hours ago, 0verlord said:

This doesn’t belong to any thread in particular so posting here just for discussion 

 

Day 1 game pricing for can be as follows

 

1) all digital, no discs

 

2) price on request - you see trailers, screenshots, read reviews and try a demo, then submit the price you want to pay for day 1 

 

3) Sony/MS accept all requests but asks rich people to pay more (rich depending on previous spending records)

 

4) Devs can additionally pitch “rich” people - ohh, look what all we are developing, please help fund these awesome games we are making - ask for payment of higher price

 

5) after finishing a game, system asks player - did you enjoy the game? Would you like to support the next game that these devs are making - donate additional money - basically same pitch as in pt. 4