AnK Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 Yep PS360-PS4 era were just on another level. It’s got little to do with the industry but more to do with expectations & interests of Gamers that has led to the current state of gaming. The traditional gamer’s expectations increased to the point that development cycle became a crunch while the new generation of gamers don’t really think beyond F2P or Yearly GaaS games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante77 Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 56 minutes ago, AnK said: Yep PS360-PS4 era were just on another level. It’s got little to do with the industry but more to do with expectations & interests of Gamers that has led to the current state of gaming. The traditional gamer’s expectations increased to the point that development cycle became a crunch while the new generation of gamers don’t really think beyond F2P or Yearly GaaS games. Agree on new gen gamers loving multi player games more. I see this in lot of young players that they just aren't much interested in SP games. They can get the initial wow factor temporarily after seeing SP games but overall they only care about GaaS and Battle Royale. All the rant I see on internet is from old school gamers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HotSonix Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 (edited) Tittle should be Greed has no limits Problem is now the price has been set next gen may come in this shitty price range Gone are the days when console makers used to sell hardware at loss and recoup them from digital media Now they want both slice of the pie Lack of competition with arrogance can do wonders in pumping ego First get half baked games now get half baked console Edited September 12 by HotSonix Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gecko89 Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 18 minutes ago, HotSonix said: Gone are the days when console makers used to sell hardware at loss and recoup them from digital media This. Even PS3 with cell engine and its atrocious launch price, was sold at loss, so were PS4 and launch PS5. With xbox under their feet, they can launch Pro with profit in mind, otherwise it would have priced better, maybe base version getting a price cut and pro launching at 550 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 If Nintendo doesn’t try to enter High End Console market again….it’s a complete Sony monopoly until things finally (as & when) go up in the cloud. I completely blame M$ & TeamXbox for being super greedy & treacherous during XBone planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Boss Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 5 minutes ago, Snake said: No more Vaseline in performance mode. Also really liked that Cerny focused on 60 fps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 40 minutes ago, Big Boss said: Also really liked that Cerny focused on 60 fps That’s the biggest driving force for these consoles. GTA6 just won’t pull off 60fps on current consoles…..this will be a big X factor this time around which wasn’t present during PS4pro tenure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamos Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 6 minutes ago, AnK said: That’s the biggest driving force for these consoles. GTA6 just won’t pull off 60fps on current consoles…..this will be a big X factor this time around which wasn’t present during PS4pro tenure. Even if it supports 60fps, the cutscenes will run at 30 fps to preserve the cinematic feel. Also, PS5 Pro will be marginally better than base PS5 no matter what mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 19 minutes ago, Vamos said: Also, PS5 Pro will be marginally better than base PS5 no matter what mode. How? 30 fps to 60 fps on same mode isn't marginal difference. It's 2x. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamos Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 8 minutes ago, Big Boss said: How? 30 fps to 60 fps on same mode isn't marginal difference. It's 2x. Stable 30 fps is far better than experiencing constant drops. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 minute ago, Vamos said: Stable 30 fps is far better than experiencing constant drops. How can we be sure there will be constant drops? No gameplay footage or analysis is out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bauji Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 4 hours ago, HotSonix said: First get half baked games What half baked games? 27 minutes ago, Big Boss said: How can we be sure there will be constant drops? No gameplay footage or analysis is out yet. Then how are you sure it will be 60fps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 It can be 40-60fps and still be fine with VRR displays. But yeah this is not for people who are happy with 30fps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 28 minutes ago, Big Boss said: How can we be sure there will be constant drops? Rat’s a*s….. PS5pro is running games like R&C,GT7,FF16,SM2,FF72,Dragon’s Dogma etc at full Native 4K with locked 60fps & some of them with RT enabled. Thinking it won’t run GTA6 at 1440p(most likely resolution for Base PS5) at stable in range VRR ~60fps is really pessimistic thought now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 17 minutes ago, Bauji said: Then how are you sure it will be 60fps? We cannot say anything confirmed till there is analysis out. All we know is that GPU is like 45% more powerful and there will be AI upscaling in all PS4 games. No one knows how it works till consoles are given to review for folks like DF, NX gamer etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnK Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, Bauji said: Then how are you sure it will be 60fps? From Mark Cerny’s own mouth. He clearly said that the emphasis will be on performance at pristine resolution. If Spider-Man 2 can run at Native 4k at locked 60fps with RT then I don’t really have a reason to believe that GTA6 won’t be able to do 47+ fps(VRR range) at ~1440p without any RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texthulk Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, AnK said: From Mark Cerny’s own mouth. He clearly said that the emphasis will be on performance at pristine resolution. If Spider-Man 2 can run at Native 4k at locked 60fps with RT then I don’t really have a reason to believe that GTA6 won’t be able to do 47+ fps(VRR range) at ~1440p without any RT. DF mentioned that PS5 Pro cpu may bottleneck new games like GTA6 , so no chance of 60fps in pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted September 12 Report Share Posted September 12 1 hour ago, AnK said: From Mark Cerny’s own mouth. He clearly said that the emphasis will be on performance at pristine resolution. If Spider-Man 2 can run at Native 4k at locked 60fps with RT then I don’t really have a reason to believe that GTA6 won’t be able to do 47+ fps(VRR range) at ~1440p without any RT. Who said native 4k? He constantly said 60fps at near fidelity mode graphics and that is certain to be achieved via ssr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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