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9 hours ago, i_rock098 said:

I will put my 2 cents on the fps discussion. Given a choice between higher quality and higher fps I will chose higher fps every day of the week. Higher fps makes a noticeable difference to the game. 6 hours in a game you won't notice how the shadows are so beautiful but you will definitely notice how smooth your actions are. To really understand what I am saying just try playing a game on 144+ fps on a 144hz monitor. It's glorious. So much so i rather play 144fps on 1080p than 30fps on 4k

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Same here but it won't make that much of a difference to people who buy consoles.

And especially not a deciding factor between the sex and PS5 especially if Sony gets out the BC on launch or close to it.

 

Anyway i like 60 fps and freedom to acquire games :fear: / swap parts / non-gaming uses so i have PC, pity the Bots and their 2 rs pseudo PC that they want to defend.

 

Halol infinite, Gayers, Forza and everything else all will be 60 fps or whatever fps you want on PC :naughty:

 

PC + PS ftw.

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After playing games for 60 fps for years theres no way I can just go back to 30 fps. The difference is so jarring its crazy. 
 
I would rather tone down graphic settings to get smooth gameplay. 
I am fine playing cinematic games ( if you can call them those) at 30.. But if its a game like destiny I have been spoiled by pc can't aim at 30 to save my life...

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After playing games for 60 fps for years theres no way I can just go back to 30 fps. The difference is so jarring its crazy. 
 
I would rather tone down graphic settings to get smooth gameplay. 
I am fine playing cinematic games ( if you can call them those) at 30.. But if its a game like destiny I have been spoiled by pc can't aim at 30 to save my life...

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Same here but it won't make that much of a difference to people who buy consoles.
And especially not a deciding factor between the sex and PS5 especially if Sony gets out the BC on launch or close to it.
 
Anyway i like 60 fps and freedom to acquire games :fear: / swap parts / non-gaming uses so i have PC, pity the Bots and their 2 rs pseudo PC that they want to defend.
 
Halol infinite, Gayers, Forza and everything else all will be 60 fps or whatever fps you want on PC :naughty:
 
PC + PS ftw.



After playing games for 60 fps for years theres no way I can just go back to 30 fps. The difference is so jarring its crazy. 
 
I would rather tone down graphic settings to get smooth gameplay. 




Agreed. That's why PC is almost always the chosen platform for people who prefer framerate. Doesn't mean us console folks can't enjoy that, it's just that there's always a cost involved and that choice lies in the developers hand. I just wish every game came with the performace/fidelity toggle. That is the ultimate freedom for us console folks.


To be honest i am surprised 60fps is still not standard given how super powerful these consoles are. Every generation i feel that this would be the generation that they finally embrace 60fps as standard for each and every game but no they want to push for higher resolution but not higher fps. By this trend PS6/series xx will have have 8k 30fps.

At the very least I honestly expect to atleast provide a simple toggle between visual & performance mode so that I as a gamer get to choose what I want. Higher fps should not be a fad only reaserved fps games or for for PC. And I say this as a primary PC gamer that I wish everyone had access to high fps gaming. It genuinely makes a difference to even racing games, action games, platformers etc.

Also what's up with Gayers, halol? I thought we are mature people discussing our passion for games. Not 15 year Olds fighting for who's e penis is larger.

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Same here but it won't make that much of a difference to people who buy consoles.
And especially not a deciding factor between the sex and PS5 especially if Sony gets out the BC on launch or close to it.
 
Anyway i like 60 fps and freedom to acquire games :fear: / swap parts / non-gaming uses so i have PC, pity the Bots and their 2 rs pseudo PC that they want to defend.
 
Halol infinite, Gayers, Forza and everything else all will be 60 fps or whatever fps you want on PC :naughty:
 
PC + PS ftw.



After playing games for 60 fps for years theres no way I can just go back to 30 fps. The difference is so jarring its crazy. 
 
I would rather tone down graphic settings to get smooth gameplay. 




Agreed. That's why PC is almost always the chosen platform for people who prefer framerate. Doesn't mean us console folks can't enjoy that, it's just that there's always a cost involved and that choice lies in the developers hand. I just wish every game came with the performace/fidelity toggle. That is the ultimate freedom for us console folks.


To be honest i am surprised 60fps is still not standard given how super powerful these consoles are. Every generation i feel that this would be the generation that they finally embrace 60fps as standard for each and every game but no they want to push for higher resolution but not higher fps. By this trend PS6/series xx will have have 8k 30fps.

At the very least I honestly expect to atleast provide a simple toggle between visual & performance mode so that I as a gamer get to choose what I want. Higher fps should not be a fad only reaserved fps games or for for PC. And I say this as a primary PC gamer that I wish everyone had access to high fps gaming. It genuinely makes a difference to even racing games, action games, platformers etc.

Also what's up with Gayers, halol? I thought we are mature people discussing our passion for games. Not 15 year Olds fighting for who's e penis is larger.

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11 hours ago, -13- said:

Such BS in this thread. Both "sides" thinking the other side is full of idiots. That's a good way to carry on a discussion. Why can't we all just get along? Aren't most of us proper adults now? I really don't understand why you guys don't even try to get along for such a small community. ?

 

Rant aside...

 

I personally don't really care for 60fps outside of FPS games and fast-paced platformers like Ori. I understand frame rate is really important for genres like racing and fighting but I don't play much of those anymore. Of course, it's always better to have 60fps but that comes at the cost of visual fidelity. I don't mind sacrificing frame rate for stunning looking games; case in point, Hellblade and most Sony exclusives.

Well said but i was under an impression, people are having fun pulling each others' leg. Hope no one is getting REALLY triggered to the point that they start spending a lot of time researching dirt on the other side and come here to spew it and get hostile. 

As long as it remains healthy and not necessarily an agenda, it should be OK (but then again i can be wrong).

 

My thoughts on the Xbox messaging.
I can see they are again going for the worlds most powerful console chest pumping messaging but clearly i feel that hasn't worked for them with One X. 

I can understand if fanboys take that message to go on a victory lap but even the MS executives are focused on that language and i feel that is their always online debacle for this gen (where proper messaging didn't reach All the audience they want it to reach). 

 

Microsoft shouldn't focus more on pleasing their 50million fan base (out of which many would also be having a PS4 mind you), but rather show content that encourages others(PC,PS owners) to purchase their console.

Game Pass is a very good one but since its on PC as well, they are not really asking people to purchase "the worlds most powerful console". Nor they realize that getting someone from PS bandwagon (out of 100+ million audience) is not easy with a powerful console since the Sony side is pretty much spoiled with lots of games and wide variety of them(not just 4k, 4k, 120 fps).  

 

Before we get back to the point that MS doesn't care about console sales but just game pass , might not know how marketing works.

Just see how Red bull (an energy drink company) is into Formula 1, etc to promote their drinks(brand) which is their core business.  (unless i am really wrong on this one)

So MS's show piece is their powerful console and it should really do well for them in order to sell their future core business the Game Pass. They can't forever do the 1$, 10$ per month model along with releasing all major games day 1 one on game pass anymore (if consoles don't sell well).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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48 minutes ago, sobbii said:

I am fine playing cinematic games ( if you can call them those) at 30.. 

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If I remember correctly you were pretty stoked for 60 fps Drake's collection and Lou 1 remasters ,infact all of you were. 

It's strange with 3-4 times the cpu power and we are making statements that we are fine with 30fps and putting all the eggs in the graphics basket which are already spectacular.

Anyways hopefully sony gives us different modes ,we all will be happy then .

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they start spending a lot of time researching dirt on the other side and come here to spew it and get hostile. 

 

If anyone does it, feel free to report it. Instant ban only.

 

Most of the console war is just for fun. Don't take it personally and enjoy playing on whatever you have/want to. 

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If I remember correctly you were pretty stoked for 60 fps Drake's collection and Lou 1 remasters ,infact all of you were. 
It's strange with 3-4 times the cpu power and we are making statements that we are fine with 30fps and putting all the eggs in the graphics basket which are already spectacular.
Anyways hopefully sony gives us different modes ,we all will be happy then .
Stoked toh tu bhi itna hua hai ps games se that you have bought ps4 not once but twice lol.. Jokes apart..

Angrezi sikh le.. Being fine doesn't necessarily mean I wouldn't like playing a certain game if possible at 60 fps..

Its all ifs and buts as of now.. If there's no option ti play a game at 60 and Sony is pushing for visuals never seen before I will take the 30 fps.

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If I remember correctly you were pretty stoked for 60 fps Drake's collection and Lou 1 remasters ,infact all of you were. 
It's strange with 3-4 times the cpu power and we are making statements that we are fine with 30fps and putting all the eggs in the graphics basket which are already spectacular.
Anyways hopefully sony gives us different modes ,we all will be happy then .
Stoked toh tu bhi itna hua hai ps games se that you have bought ps4 not once but twice lol.. Jokes apart..

Angrezi sikh le.. Being fine doesn't necessarily mean I wouldn't like playing a certain game if possible at 60 fps..

Its all ifs and buts as of now.. If there's no option ti play a game at 60 and Sony is pushing for visuals never seen before I will take the 30 fps.

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2 hours ago, KnackChap said:

Which one was the dead space writer's game? Pragmata?

 

I think Anthony Jhonston game was not announced on PS5 event. He also deleted his tweets teasing it.. 

 

Last minute changes maybe. 

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Playstation Chief Jim Ryan is skirting around the PS5 Price issue by saying things like "He emphasized Value over Price"

 

From Source:

 

While he wouldn't talk about a possible price point yet – "you're not going to hear anything on price today," Ryan told BBC (thanks, Comic Book) – he did say that the disc-less digital edition came about because "consumers are purchasing solely digitally these days" and the company did "what we typically try and do", "and just offer choice" to its consumers. 

 

"Conventional wisdom and history show that our business is one of the more recession-proof businesses," Ryan told added, reflecting on releasing a next-gen release in 2020. "But I think this will sharpen our need to ensure that we focus on getting the value equation right. And I emphasise value as opposed to price.

 

"We must be more attentive than ever before to ensure that the overall value proposition in terms of the console and the games - the range of games, the quality of games, the quantity of games - makes this something that our community aspires towards."

 

As for that divisive design?

 

"The PlayStation sits in the living area of most homes, and we kind of felt it would be nice to provide a design that would really grace most living areas," Ryan said. "That's what we've tried to do. And, you know, we think we've been successful in that."

 

Sourcehttps://www.gamesradar.com/sony-wants-to-emphasise-value-as-opposed-to-price-for-the-ps5/

 

All this is making me think that PS5 is going to cost $699 (as rumors are spreading). Hope that isn't the case. Sony should have learned that a dominating gen does not automatically mean that the next gen will be automatically successful. PS2 to PS3 should have taught them some really hard lessons. Wonder whyy they are again trying to repeat the mistakes of the beginning PS3 gen.

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Hmm, $699 is just too high. Sony will be shooting themselves in the foot. Personally, at that price even I would wait out instead of getting on Day 1 as I used to.

Not even gonna go into the Indian price if it turns out to be $699. 

$499 seems alright with the discless version coming at $399/449, if not they aren't going to get ps4 sales.

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3 hours ago, triggr happy ss said:

If I remember correctly you were pretty stoked for 60 fps Drake's collection and Lou 1 remasters ,infact all of you were. 

Highlighted the important bit.

 

If I have to choose between HZD as it is, with 30 fps, and the same with noticably scaled down visuals at 60 fps, the choice is always the former.

 

Just to clarify-

Noticably =/=  5 tunnel lights that took 2 seconds extra to turn on

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