TRMNTR Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 why does it look so huge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Probably just a smallish hand. I guess it would be smaller than the Xbox controller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Keano said: why does it look so huge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 https://venturebeat.com/2020/07/09/sony-invests-250-million-in-fortnite-maker-epic-games/ So now we know why Tim Sweeny was praising PS5 so much lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 11 hours ago, VelivolusDas said: 250 million oh, so same what tlou2 earned in 3 days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pArth Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 What a move sony Now they just need to force them to make PS exclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, pArth said: What a move sony Now they just need to force them to make PS exclusive. I don't think it works like that. They just bought shares in the company and nothing else. That will have to come out of a separate deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pArth Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 I know. But sony might get some influence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 It's just an investment; doesn't have to mean anything with regards to games. They can see Epic booming like crazy so they want a piece of that pie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roun90 Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, pArth said: What a move sony Now they just need to force them to make PS exclusive. Doubt they will, or even care about Playstation exclusives with that Epic deal (Other than some minor stuff like say Fortnite events or such). What the deal has done is that certain % of profits from Epic (Up to the level of their stake) will go to Sony. Say Sony has 2% stake now - 2% of the overall Epic profits, including Fortnite profits, Unreal Engine Profits and EGS Profits will always go to Sony. And considering the obscene amount money that Fortnite and UE makes, it will not surprise me if Sony has already made back this money, with extra cash on top of it, by the time the next Shareholders' meeting rolls around. As far as exclusives are concerned - it will be the other way around. There is a chance that all Sony exclusives coming to PC will be EGS exclusives from this point on, but Epic Games will be multi-plat. Hopefully, this collaboration means that UE will be better optimized on PS consoles, but that and some minor events will be the total amount of "Exclusives" Sony will be getting. Edited July 10, 2020 by roun90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, roun90 said: Doubt they will, or even care about Playstation exclusives with that Epic deal (Other than some minor stuff like say Fortnite events or such). What the deal has done is that certain % of profits from Epic (Up to the level of their stake) will go to Sony. Say Sony has 2% stake now - 2% of the overall Epic profits, including Fortnite profits, Unreal Engine Profits and EGS Profits will always go to Sony. And considering the obscene amount money that Fortnite and UE makes, it will not surprise me if Sony has not already made back this money, with extra cash on top of it, by the time the next Shareholders' meeting rolls around. As far as exclusives are concerned - it will be the other way around. There is a chance that all Sony exclusives coming to PC will be EGS exclusives from this point on, but Epic Games will be multi-plat. Hopefully, this collaboration means that UE will be better optimized on PS consoles, but that and some minor events will be the total amount of "Exclusives" Sony will be getting. A separate deal for that. This is just Sony wanting to make some free paisa on the side. I mean they are a normal company, not like some other company that has money to burn like their bots say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Imagine if that actually happens. The Sony fanboy crowd meltdowns combined with the Epic-hate crowd meltdowns will be a thing of legends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shantz Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, roun90 said: What the deal has done is that certain % of profits from Epic (Up to the level of their stake) will go to Sony. Say Sony has 2% stake now - 2% of the overall Epic profits, including Fortnite profits, Unreal Engine Profits and EGS Profits will always go to Sony. And considering the obscene amount money that Fortnite and UE makes, it will not surprise me if Sony has already made back this money, with extra cash on top of it, by the time the next Shareholders' meeting rolls around. That's not how it works. Any share of the profits do not go to shareholders in any % unless a company declares dividends and the dividends are generally paltry. The benefits of these investments are generally realized by either having an influence in the direction the invested company takes and/or by exiting the investment when the valuation soars. So you will not see any money coming to Sony from this investment any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 hour ago, adity said: Guys EPIC is a massive company. Sony likely got around 2% stake for that much. Maybe less. You don't get any kind of influence with 2 percent stake. Cash works. Epic has Market valuation of $20B, so yeah you are right on money, it is less than 2% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Shantz said: That's not how it works. Any share of the profits do not go to shareholders in any % unless a company declares dividends and the dividends are generally paltry. The benefits of these investments are generally realized by either having an influence in the direction the invested company takes and/or by exiting the investment when the valuation soars. So you will not see any money coming to Sony from this investment any time soon. Epic games is privately owned with multiple people having stakes in it. The private companies use cash to increase valuation. True that Epic won't be sharing this money in shareholders, it is not profit to be shared it is cash which has been infused to help them scale up. Definitely, Sony will be asking that scaling to happen to help them in return. Edited July 10, 2020 by Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacifier Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Tencent has made a lot of bank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, dylanjosh said: Tencent has made a lot of bank Beauty of Tencent is that they don't hesitate in investing in rivals. They operate PUBG but have money invested in Fortnight too. Tencent is owning hell lot of gaming than we know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 10, 2020 Report Share Posted July 10, 2020 Tencent owns 40% of EPIC and Sweeney owns majority (>50%). SONY gets nothing here. This is just tiny investment. People are over analyzing it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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