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7 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

Having a GP like Langar of games for $1 needs lots of money, like Ambani or MS type money, no way Sony will do that.

No I'm saying like 100$ a year or 7000 a year . Il be good with that. 

 

20 minutes ago, Right said:

Unlikely, they will lose a lot of money because they have too many first-party titles, which sell quite well.

Yes unlikely. But as they are going to have a digital only console they should go that route. This would make more People buy more digitial consoles, and will profit Sony more in the long run

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3 minutes ago, PhantomShade said:

 

Money hat is to get the early gen advantage, to make it harder for MS to fight back.

 

 

It's not just early gen. Sony has used it aggressively even towards the end of ps4 lifecycle. From ff7 remake to cod modern warfare to fall guy's and what not. They're living up to their tagline of making ps4- "the best place to play" and if that means moneyhatting pubs then I don't give a F. It's not like I'm paying out of my pocket for the extra goodies. 

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14 minutes ago, rushaboswal said:

Yes unlikely. But as they are going to have a digital only console they should go that route. This would make more People buy more digitial consoles, and will profit Sony more in the long run

What I feel is if Subscription based service goes mainstream that is if it has 10-15m subscribers, the quality of games will take a hit.

 

Today, developers have a simple metrics to chase for, that is sales, which can be met by delivering good games & marketing.

 If they want to make more money, they need to sell more, by making better games.

 

With subscription service, you have a large group which is of paying customers, they would stick on and will play your game. Worse thing is that they would time their subscription around the time of big releases. So they get their 1st month free, play the games and exit. Rinse/repeat with new IDs.

 

And since the money you are gonna get out of them is finite, you need to shove in DLCs and micro-transactions for that extra money.
This is fine for games which are being developed on GaaS model like Halo, but our beloved SP games it will not be good.

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3 hours ago, Right said:

So they get their 1st month free, play the games and exit. Rinse/repeat with new IDs

Yeah and this happens right now by great numbers.

 

3 hours ago, Right said:

And since the money you are gonna get out of them is finite, you need to shove in DLCs and micro-transactions for that extra money.

This is an honest concern. Like the levelgating in AC: ORIGINS Was horrible. 

 

3 hours ago, Right said:

This is fine for games which are being developed on GaaS model like Halo, but our beloved SP games it will not be good.

I have never really enjoyed GaaS , except Destiny 2 , which I enjoyed for a little while. Single player games will always be something il enjoy because of the story alongside fresh combat systems.

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Immersion: Sony’s Focus on PS5 DualSense Haptics Tech is Due to PS4 Already Having Pretty Much Maxed Out the Audio-Visual Experience

 

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According to the CEO, the experience being offered by the new technology in the DualSense will be the norm going forward.

 

“That is a brand-new experience, and that is singularly differentiated by haptics”, he told investors. “And we're very excited about this, not just because Sony is doing it, but we believe that kind of experience will be the norm and the standard going forward.”

 

From what we’ve been hearing, many in the gaming industry have praised the new PS5 DualSense controller, and we can’t wait to get our hands on it as well.

 

https://wccftech.com/sony-focus-ps5-dualsense-haptics-ps4-maximized/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

 

While their competitors added a whole new button (:O) and renamed an existing one to share button (:dance:)

 

 

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Tipster claims that the PlayStation 5 will cost more and perform worse than the Xbox Series X: Resident Evil Village could run at a mere 1080p/60

 

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tipster-claims-that-the-PlayStation-5-will-cost-more-and-perform-worse-than-the-Xbox-Series-X-Resident-Evil-Village-could-run-at-a-mere-1080p-60.484874.0.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said:

Tipster claims that the PlayStation 5 will cost more and perform worse than the Xbox Series X: Resident Evil Village could run at a mere 1080p/60

 

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Tipster-claims-that-the-PlayStation-5-will-cost-more-and-perform-worse-than-the-Xbox-Series-X-Resident-Evil-Village-could-run-at-a-mere-1080p-60.484874.0.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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add to this Microsoft are ready to lowball Sony when it comes to price. They can more easily make a sacrifice and get back profits from Game Pass than console sales than Sony can from that comparatively.

Apart from what he said (which il take with a pinch of salt) This is true. MS has way too much money in hand and can easily lure casual gamers who just play online or dont care about exclusives. Sony on other hand wont/cant do it . Honestly this price war is more intresting than all the cold wars out there XD

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Also looks like RE 8 will have 4k mode and performance mode at 60 fps.

 

So reveal video was 4k at sub 30 fps and if what this guy saying is true then performance mode will be sub 60 on PS5.

 

Hopefully Capcom will prove him wrong and deliver solid port. 

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Yeah that's Dusk Golem. He said it'll launch on PS5 at 1080p/60, then backtracked and said the current state is 1080p/60 and it'll get better by launch, then backtracked further and claimed he never said launch at 1080p/60. In the end he decided to just STFU about these thing :lol: 

 

 

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1 hour ago, CarbonCore said:

Yeah that's Dusk Golem. He said it'll launch on PS5 at 1080p/60, then backtracked and said the current state is 1080p/60 and it'll get better by launch, then backtracked further and claimed he never said launch at 1080p/60. In the end he decided to just STFU about these thing :lol: 

 

 

 

 He backtracked the F outta everything he said when members on Resetera called out his ' insider info' BS, especially the Silent Hill reboot info.  He comes across as a Fanboy

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33 minutes ago, adity said:

I think people really need to drop the idea that MS has unlimited money to burn. They won't just keep eating losses if they are not seeing the required returns in the future. They do have unlimited money but money has a cost and that cost is high for a high margin business that MS operates. 

 

Yes, of course. Mixer is the latest realty check.

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2 hours ago, adity said:

I think people really need to drop the idea that MS has unlimited money to burn. They won't just keep eating losses if they are not seeing the required returns in the future. They do have unlimited money but money has a cost and that cost is high for a high margin business that MS operates. 

 

A certain person :giggle: on this board behaves as if MS is a Chinese State Owned Company that will continue pouring paisa into a dud, unlike reality where they pull the plug on failed products very soon

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33 minutes ago, playstationdude said:

They canned the complete Nokia division which honestly had far more potential than their gaming division, not sure why people think they will burn money on gaming.

 

After a certain point of time, when they don't the see the expected and mic dropping profit boosting results

Xbox consoles : discontinued

Phil Spencer : Fired

Xbox Game Pass : cancelled

Hotel : Trivago

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18 minutes ago, adity said:

Microsoft lost a sh*t ton on Nokia btw. 

They bought it for approx 8 billion and then discontinued and sold the brand for 0.35 billion. 

Nokia could have been the number 1 player if they went with Android. Windows os f**ked them. Their phone designs were really good and premium.

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58 minutes ago, playstationdude said:

Nokia could have been the number 1 player if they went with Android. Windows os f**ked them. Their phone designs were really good and premium.

 

Easily. I did love the combination of Lumia Phones and Windows Phone OS. They're still my favorite pair till date. Too bad it didn't work out. 

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9 minutes ago, -13- said:

 

Easily. I did love the combination of Lumia Phones and Windows Phone OS. They're still my favorite pair till date. Too bad it didn't work out. 

 

even win10 mobile could be successful if they supported it.

coming back to my chinese state owned company example, Huawei, ZTE, Hisense, Haier, Midea, TCL what have you have all received enough support from their sarkar to make them just W O R K .

Closer to gaming Wii U was comedy yet nintendo still supported it till they could get a proper successor out.

 

MS, Google etc don't seem to have interest in making their products or services work at whatever cost to them, CANCEL'd the product is a much more ezier alternative, which keeps boardwalas happy.

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