The Xbox Series X|S thread

[hope]

1 minute ago, Sach4life said:

 

If i am not wrong, recent patch for AC did make the PS5 version a bit worse. Also, wasn't there a parity clause in number of cases last gen as well?

Is this possible though considering the install base PS has?

[Sach4life]

2 minutes ago, hope said:

Is this possible though considering the install base PS has?

 

I am just saying what i have read. No idea how all of this works

[Sach4life]

2 minutes ago, adity said:

It was a false alarm. DF dismissed it. 

Parity clause was there so all devs just gave day 1 patch to improve ps4 performance. 

 

Aahh, ok. My bad then..

[triggr happy ss]

 

 

Wrong thread

Edited December 2, 2020 by triggr happy ss

[Big Boss]

AC Valhalla still runs better on PS5 as the lowest resolution is worse on Series X. Overall not a single multi-platform game is clear cut better on Series X. Problem is that many devs are just increasing resolution of One S versions which mostly have been poor. Even last gen, One X version of Crash Bandicoot 4 lacks some graphical effects compared to PS4 pro as it was just higher resolution One S version which had some shadows and extra grass etc missing. Real comparisons will begin when games will be developed exclusively for next gen. Then we will see if Series S holds back Series X version. 

[WhiteWolf]

18 minutes ago, Sach4life said:

 

If i am not wrong, recent patch for AC did make the PS5 version a bit worse. Also, wasn't there a parity clause in number of cases last gen as well?

False . 

 

PS5 version is unchanged. Check DF analysis 1.04 patch.

[0verlord]

WTF X1X vs Pro or PS4 vs X1 had anything to do with PS5 vs XSX?!?   

all three comparisons are totally different era’s & machines 

 

X1X was a much more expensive piece of hardware in comparison to Pro 

how the *beep* you think it’s right to compare it with Hardwares launching day & date with same price tag  

 

 

It’s very simple. 

In X1X vs Pro era, X1X with 6 TF performed way better than Pro with 4 TF on multi-plat games.

 

When XSX with 12 TF and PS5 with 10 TF were announced, having seen X1X vs Pro performance gap, it was a fair assumption that XSX would perform better than PS5 because of more TFs.

 

This is a fair assumption for people like me who aren’t console hardware/software engineers.

 

But interestingly, PS5 with less TFs is performing better then XSX on multi-plats thanks to Cerny and team’s wizardry. That’s the limited point.

[0verlord]

First & foremost 6 vs 4 is a much bigger gap in terms of power percentage compared to 12 vs 10 
 
I kinda feel sad I’m having to put together kindergarten level math here 
 
 
Secondly TF as said numerous times before is not the only thing while judging performance 
it’s just layman terms of calculating capabilities 
 
But you use those capabilities also matters at the end of the day 
 
Cerny opened up his keynote with this very statement 

Yes, 10 vs 12 is too close as compared to 4 vs 6.

Also, people took Cerny’s presentation for granted.

But looking back with new game performance comparisons, I absolutely enjoy watching Cerny’s presentation again and again. He’s a wizard of console hardware domain.

[WhiteWolf]

3 minutes ago, AnK said:

First & foremost 6 vs 4 is a much bigger gap in terms of power percentage compared to 12 vs 10 

 

I kinda feel sad I’m having to put together kindergarten level math here 

 

 

Secondly TF as said numerous times before is not the only thing while judging performance 

it’s just layman terms of calculating capabilities 

 

But you use those capabilities also matters at the end of the day 

 

Cerny opened up his keynote with this very statement 

 

My friend 

[0verlord]

First & foremost 6 vs 4 is a much bigger gap in terms of power percentage compared to 12 vs 10 

 

I kinda feel sad I’m having to put together kindergarten level math here 

 

 

Secondly TF as said numerous times before is not the only thing while judging performance 

it’s just layman terms of calculating capabilities 

 

But you use those capabilities also matters at the end of the day 

 

Cerny opened up his keynote with this very statement 

 

10 vs 12 may be too close.

 

But if we consider good PC GPUs, they have 60+ CUs and high frequencies more than PS5’s 2.2. PC GPUs are the most powerful and they are better on both fronts CUs and frequency, so they dominate all.

 

But XSX went with more CUs and PS5 went with more frequency. Which one is a “long term” better choice? There are other differences in hardware which are not given in standard spec sheets floating around the internet but do they matter?

[WhiteWolf]

CU vs Frequency wars next

[0verlord]

CU vs Frequency wars next

From what we are seeing, PS5 with higher frequency is always doing better on 120fps mode - is it attributable to higher frequency?

[WhiteWolf]

12 minutes ago, 0verlord said:

From what we are seeing, PS5 with higher frequency is always doing better on 120fps mode - is it attributable to higher frequency?

No. B3 runs better on SX at 120fps.

 

2021 will give us clear picture. If every game continues to run better on PS5 throughout the year then its time to take the L for MS, but not right now as its too early.

[Big Boss]

31 minutes ago, 0verlord said:

Yes, 10 vs 12 is too close as compared to 4 vs 6.

Also, people took Cerny’s presentation for granted.

But looking back with new game performance comparisons, I absolutely enjoy watching Cerny’s presentation again and again. He’s a wizard of console hardware domain.

 

24 minutes ago, 0verlord said:

 

10 vs 12 may be too close.

 

But if we consider good PC GPUs, they have 60+ CUs and high frequencies more than PS5’s 2.2. PC GPUs are the most powerful and they are better on both fronts CUs and frequency, so they dominate all.

 

But XSX went with more CUs and PS5 went with more frequency. Which one is a “long term” better choice? There are other differences in hardware which are not given in standard spec sheets floating around the internet but do they matter?

[Snake]

3 hours ago, adity said:

I'm not gonna comb through 500 pages of nonsense to find it but I'm sure many will back me up. 

Maybe @Snake can even find those silly posts of yours. 

 

lol...not gonna waste my time sorting thru his BS posts

[0verlord]

Don't lie. You were spamming every thread saying XSX is the only console which can do 4k 120. Spamming every ps game thread begging for 60 fps too. 
Then PS5 came out and you changed your tune. 

To be honest when they announced 12TF vs 10TF for XSX vs PS5,

I considered that Pro with 4TF was a 1440p 30fps machine. X1X was 1800p-4K 30fps machine,

I thought that X1X could nearly do 4K at 6TF and both next gen consoles are at 10TF and 12TF,

that’s almost 2x power of X1X, not considering that 1TF of next gen is better than 1TF of last gen.

This means that both XSX and PS5 would easily do 4K 60fps.

TVs more than 4K would never go mainstream in the next 5-7 years. So my thoughts were that both next gen consoles have more than enough power to do 4k 60fps and since 4k TVs would be the norm, there won’t be any console wars at all as such like X1X vs Pro.

[quixote_1989]

This f**king chad in my society group.

 

Aside from the fact that I am salty af about not having the SeX yet, who the f**k even cares why he needs the cable. 

 

 

 

[Jigsaw]

2 hours ago, quixote_1989 said:

This f**king chad in my society group.

 

Aside from the fact that I am salty af about not having the SeX yet, who the f**k even cares why he needs the cable. 

 

 

 

He seriously doesn’t have a spare Ethernet cable around the house?

 

Reminds me of the one that’s been sitting on top of my microwave for months now for no reason. Plus the several hundred in multiple drawers. 
 

But nice way to rub it in if that’s what he’s trying to do ???

[Walker]

2 hours ago, quixote_1989 said:

This f**king chad in my society group.

 

Aside from the fact that I am salty af about not having the SeX yet, who the f**k even cares why he needs the cable. 

 

 

 

Ask for SeX in return for ethernet cable

[quixote_1989]

1 minute ago, Walker said:

Ask for SeX in return for ethernet cable