Big Boss Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Yeah, outside Mumbai no one gives a f**k about shivsena. It's either ncp or bjp now. Next time sena will not win much out of Mumbai. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 The power grip on media has let them run the state with absolutely no governance visible on the ground. When they saw things slipping, they jacked up intimidation tactics. But public is seeing it all. I just feel bad for hardworking folks of MH, especially of Mumbai, who have gone through many bad things but this will break them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-editorials/who-admits-airborne-covid-spread-wearing-masks-now-of-paramount-importance/ N95 is compulsory now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Snake Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 34 minutes ago, Big Boss said: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/toi-editorials/who-admits-airborne-covid-spread-wearing-masks-now-of-paramount-importance/ N95 is compulsory now. Hanky with a good seal provides enough protection as I'm C category. 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keano Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 itching to post something about Camphor and Hanky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 I dunno how N95 will protect you from airborne viruses. You probably need a proper gas mask lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerY2J Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Snake said: Hanky with a good seal provides enough protection as I'm C category. Perfectly summed up :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: I dunno how N95 will protect you from airborne viruses. You probably need a proper gas mask lol. They are not saying the virus per se is airborne, they are saying the microdroplets are airborne. You can read the full paper here: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa939/5867798 The most common example stated is a micro droplet size of 5 microns, and a NIOSH certified N95 will filter till 0.3 microns, so N95 is the way to go. Edited July 9, 2020 by Bird Bird Bird 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: They are not saying the virus per se is airborne, they are saying the microdroplets are airborne. You can read the full paper here: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa939/5867798 The most common example stated is a micro droplet size of 5 microns, and a NIOSH certified N95 will filter till 0.3 microns, so N95 is the way to go. So what do I do, khareedun ya na kharedun N95? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 minute ago, playstationdude said: So what do I do, khareedun ya na kharedun N95? literally nobody is saying dont buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, playstationdude said: So what do I do, khareedun ya na kharedun N95? Of course BUY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: They are not saying the virus per se is airborne, they are saying the microdroplets are airborne. You can read the full paper here: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa939/5867798 The most common example stated is a micro droplet size of 5 microns, and a NIOSH certified N95 will filter till 0.3 microns, so N95 is the way to go. That makes sense. I thought full airborne virus is something like a poisonous gas, except biological instead of chemical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Keano said: itching to post something about Camphor and Hanky Camphor 1m is quite a hit right now 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 1 hour ago, Bird Bird Bird said: They are not saying the virus per se is airborne, they are saying the microdroplets are airborne. You can read the full paper here: https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa939/5867798 The most common example stated is a micro droplet size of 5 microns, and a NIOSH certified N95 will filter till 0.3 microns, so N95 is the way to go. BTW, can it intrude from other cavity(s)? Like Ears? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silica Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: That makes sense. I thought full airborne virus is something like a poisonous gas, except biological instead of chemical. The virus itself will not be airborne as a single one. They are clumped together by droplets (aerosol particulates are considered as a form of transmission by air) of any body fluid from a person. Isolating a wild strain from the air is tough as hell. I would take what the WHO says with a pinch of salt. In other words, the WHO is telling us what is already common knowledge, nothing new has been added. As @Bird Bird Bird stated use N95 masks, preferably NIOSH. Be careful whilst wearing and removing them. Do what you can when outside to prevent cross contamination to objects you carry such as phone, car keys, etc. https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa939/5867798?searchresult=1 The above letter (the two authors addressed the letter to numerous organisations, ~240) was picked by the large news outlets in the US. My opinion is that this statement by the WHO is in response to the negative news coverage it is currently receiving. Mumps and measles are also airborne transmissions, mumps spreads by large droplets when you are in close contact with the infected person (cough, sneeze, spittle when talking, etc.) whereas measles spreads the same way, but, it can also form aerosol particles which linger in the air for a few hours. So, even if person did not have any close contact with a person infected with measles, if they enter a room a few hours after an infected person, they can still get infected. The whole debate now is only regarding modifications to the terminology. It’s frankly stupid and does not contribute to the discussion about airborne infections. @Bird Bird Bird Correct any errors in my statements. Edited July 9, 2020 by silica Adding link to the original Academic Article. The article is being debated within the epidemiology community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylanjosh Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 37 minutes ago, Right said: BTW, can it intrude from other cavity(s)? Like Ears? Yeah, hence the "dont touch your face" advisory. Can enter through any cavity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abhi90 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, dylanjosh said: Yeah, hence the "dont touch your face" advisory. Can enter through any cavity. "Any" cavity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted July 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 Afaik it can infect through eyes. So better to wear face shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne0 Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Of course BUY. Are these the kind of N95 masks to buy - it says reusable & washable : https://www.amazon.in/Reusable-washable-certified-droplets-pollution/dp/B08C67MQG5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3P3ENYJEZBKCJ&dchild=1&keywords=N95+masks&qid=1594297791&sprefix=domex%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-1 there are others marked with NIOSH certified, but not sure if these can be reused : https://www.amazon.in/Magnum-N95-NIOSH-approved-pack/dp/B0895J88L7/ref=pd_sim_328_1/261-2261557-8953557?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0895J88L7&pd_rd_r=6e7224ec-67c9-45d5-926e-d6e3789f4c3d&pd_rd_w=Tb2iY&pd_rd_wg=X0AGF&pf_rd_p=ab1ea959-cf01-41ea-8491-e7f4cc3d0a0f&pf_rd_r=76CDKF2PRFQVT04XSHKN&psc=1&refRID=76CDKF2PRFQVT04XSHKN Even if I want to buy one, I have little to no information on what to buy, what to trust and how to use it :-/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted July 9, 2020 Report Share Posted July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ne0 said: Are these the kind of N95 masks to buy - it says reusable & washable : https://www.amazon.in/Reusable-washable-certified-droplets-pollution/dp/B08C67MQG5/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3P3ENYJEZBKCJ&dchild=1&keywords=N95+masks&qid=1594297791&sprefix=domex%2Caps%2C277&sr=8-1 there are others marked with NIOSH certified, but not sure if these can be reused : https://www.amazon.in/Magnum-N95-NIOSH-approved-pack/dp/B0895J88L7/ref=pd_sim_328_1/261-2261557-8953557?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0895J88L7&pd_rd_r=6e7224ec-67c9-45d5-926e-d6e3789f4c3d&pd_rd_w=Tb2iY&pd_rd_wg=X0AGF&pf_rd_p=ab1ea959-cf01-41ea-8491-e7f4cc3d0a0f&pf_rd_r=76CDKF2PRFQVT04XSHKN&psc=1&refRID=76CDKF2PRFQVT04XSHKN Even if I want to buy one, I have little to no information on what to buy, what to trust and how to use it :-/ Don't buy one with a vent. It just harbors bacteria/virus. I have been using something similar to the 2nd one you have listed. Works well for a few outings if you use a few in rotation. I don't think any of these should be washed, it will damage the layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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