Jigsaw Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, sobbii said: Who is she? Sent from my SM-N960F using Tapatalk As long as bat-soup is not on her mind and menu, I’m ok with whatever she is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamgulshan Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Jigsaw said: I’m rooting for all of dogi-media to be in the remaining 6% Aiyoo.. you got the Sauce ?? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, Jigsaw said: As long as bat-soup is not on her mind and menu, I’m ok with whatever she is. Just imagine, if someday, your wife gets hand of your phone and the pics you post on IVG. Just imagine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, playstationdude said: Just imagine, if someday, your wife gets hand of your phone and the pics you post on IVG. Just imagine Live by the sword & die by it. I swear I heard that line in Ghost of Sushma. TBH, she’s accepted I’ve gone senile ages ago. iPhones are unhackable no? FBI jo na kar paaya woh kambakht ek aurat kya karegi Edited January 4, 2021 by Jigsaw Update 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayush12ice Posted January 4, 2021 Report Share Posted January 4, 2021 Sent from my ONEPLUS A6013 using Tapatalk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 https://m.timesofindia.com/india/vaccine-war-bharat-biotech-chief-lashes-out-at-serum/articleshow/80105032.cms What's happening Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 42 minutes ago, Big Boss said: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/vaccine-war-bharat-biotech-chief-lashes-out-at-serum/articleshow/80105032.cms What's happening Bull shitry to downplay a vaccine. But this is nothing than the Bull Shitry our own people do to downplay vaccine made by our Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted January 5, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, hope said: Bull shitry to downplay a vaccine. But this is nothing than the Bull Shitry our own people do to downplay vaccine made by our Country. That guy is pissed that Serum guy called the vaccine as water and government person called it as backup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Big Boss said: https://m.timesofindia.com/india/vaccine-war-bharat-biotech-chief-lashes-out-at-serum/articleshow/80105032.cms What's happening At this point, they should do a dance-off to decide the winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, Jigsaw said: At this point, they should do a dance-off to decide the winner. How about a three way battle with Baba Ramdevs Coronil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 57 minutes ago, Big Boss said: That guy is pissed that Serum guy called the vaccine as water and government person called it as backup Squabbling like children Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Can we do half half? One dose of BB and one of SII? I love my half & half pizzas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 49 minutes ago, Jigsaw said: Can we do half half? One dose of BB and one of SII? I love my half & half pizzas. add coronil as extra toppings and we have a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radicaldude Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Jigsaw said: Can we do half half? One dose of BB and one of SII? I love my half & half pizzas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bird Bird Bird Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 https://www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/health-trends/covaxin-approval-beyond-the-emotional-outburst-heres-what-bharat-biotechs-krishna-ella-said-about-the-vaccine-6304551.html Quote “We are under pressure as we are developing vaccines at such a fast pace… hence we haven’t got time to publish our data in the public domain,” Ella said. Ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-55534902 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hope Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 Bird Flu creating Havoc 2021 hasnt begun well Also every article quoting Shashi Tharoor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ph3N0M Posted January 5, 2021 Report Share Posted January 5, 2021 4 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said: https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-asia-india-55534902 It has been hard to keep up with the vaccine updates. From this article, it seems like they were only criticising Covaxin being approved. Is the approval of Oxford's vaccine safer/non-controversial/less controversial by comparison? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted January 6, 2021 Report Share Posted January 6, 2021 13 hours ago, Ph3N0M said: It has been hard to keep up with the vaccine updates. From this article, it seems like they were only criticising Covaxin being approved. Is the approval of Oxford's vaccine safer/non-controversial/less controversial by comparison? There are multiple issues with Covaxin approval. No P3 data in public - to some extent, understandable IF the data is out in the next 2-3 weeks AND considering it's already been accepted in a journal. BUT it seems they haven't even got their P1/2 data published anywhere except as a pre-pint, which...anyone can do without oversight. All other vaccines also received approval after submitting P3 data to regulators, but the data was out in public within 2-3 weeks of approvals (since that is likely the smallest publishing cycle with most journals, and even if there was no peer review, there must be an editorial review). They clubbed animal safety data with P1/2 human data, and that was considered for safety purpose, which, frankly, is pretty bullshit. The way these trials were conducted, while not surprising, cast a dubious shadow over any data generated. No ICF, patients paid for AE management etc. Ella is saying they have given Covaxin to 23000 volunteers. AFAIR, they were supposed to recruit 23000 or 26000 volunteers for their P3 trial, so that means none or only a small proportion of the volunteers got placebo. How the heck can you compare results from such vastly different sample sizes, specially efficacy ? How come the protocol was changed midway (protocol said 1:1 randomization for vaccine and placebo) ? The early press releases said they showed interim data of around 190 patients to DCGI. Ella is shouting they showed data of 23000 volunteers to DCGI. What is the truth ? Where is the data ? Currently Ella is saying the data will likely get published by Feb 2021. Let's see. Govt stating that Covaxin is approved for "CT Mode". WTF is a CT mode ? Either you are approved as experimental drug for P3 trials - meaning everyone taking that vaccine HAS to be informed of risk, benefits and HAS to sign an ICF, HAS to be monitored regularly, HAS to have their AE managed by the PI, HAS to have a compensatory policy, and a data interpretation has to be generated after a predefined time period - OR you are approved as a vaccine to be administered in mass AFTER robust P3 data has been submitted, and you do a P4/PMS study to look at other data points, primarily long term safety (observational trial). SII has 2 benefits - their interim data has shown 70% efficacy, and their base data is also helped by global AZ data which shows 62% (full dual dose) or 90% (half dual dose mode) efficacy. So they do have a base to stand on. Both Pfizer and Moderna similarly followed up with publicly published data for anyone to dissect. I know for a fact that one of my relatives (NHS, UK) who got a shot of vaccine (I don't remember if this was Pfizer or AZ) had VERY severe headache for 2-3 days, and had to hit high NSAID doses for relief. His wife was fine though. Every vaccine is a live experiment to some extent now. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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