Right Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Right said: Action vs Reaction 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Meanwhile.... Wtf bizarre excuses? We did not get spanner? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Government is shameless man. We are lucky that court arguments are reported now. In Bombay High court, the pune municipal corporation told that there are sufficient icu and oxygen beds. Judge asked petitioner to call helpline and keep it on speaker, both time the helpline told them beds are not available. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 I don't know how many of these were vaccinated completely: https://punemirror.indiatimes.com/pune/civic/oxygen-beds-at-police-hq-save-15-cops-lives/articleshow/82584981.cms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 I thought all cops were vaccinated first though (frontline workers?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsarna Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 minute ago, AnK said: AstraZeneca vaccine has a very very low immune response on the new variant & like only 50-60% protection against severe disease Maybe more against death but it’s not a hidden fact right now that one can!! get critical even after fully vaccinated Everything about CoVaxin is a hidden fact so no one knows Source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Walker said: I thought all cops were vaccinated first though (frontline workers?) Yes that's what I thought. Response was decent in Maharashtra for front line workers vaccination. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/pune/64-per-cent-cops-from-three-police-jurisdictions-in-pune-district-get-first-covid-vaccine-shots-7214053/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 This is f**king stupid. Why would you wait for HC intervention in the first place? This right here is the problem in the country. Every thing is a bloody ketchup bottle. 15 died last night in GMC due to oxygen fluctuation apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigsaw Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 19 minutes ago, rdsarna said: Source? Trust me Bro 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Mumbai Mayor gonna float a global tender for vaccines. I don't think any company is gonna bid for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, AnK said: AstraZeneca vaccine has a very very low immune response on the new variant & like only 50-60% protection against severe disease Maybe more against death but it’s not a hidden fact right now that one can!! get critical even after fully vaccinated Everything about CoVaxin is a hidden fact so no one knows Can you please cite the source which states 50-60% metric? Also none of the vaccines boast a 100% efficacy rate (this metric is different than the 50-60% metric you mentioned), in a large enough population such cases will come up. Even Israel didn't have 100% effectiveness. I think you have mixed up some of the numbers being reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, AnK said: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/nejmoa2102214 Actually this study was criticized a little and now termed as outdated because the dosing interval was capped at 35 days which now has been revised to 12 weeks. Also, the motive of the study was to evaluate whether the efficacy of the vaccine was atleast 60% or not, the efficacy against the South African variant was a secondary objective, so instead of testing specifically against the variant, they compared it to the numbers of the original study to compute the variant's efficacy numbers which obviously is not the correct procedure. And they do mention the same in the article, just takes a little more effort to read through the meat of the discussion instead of the conclusion: "Of 87 spike-specific antigens identified by the sequencing, 75 remained unaffected by the B.1.351 mutations" "The lack of efficacy against the B.1.351 variant should be considered in the context of the 75% efficacy (95% CI, 8.7 to 95.5) in preventing mild-to-moderate Covid-19 with onset at least 14 days after even a single dose of ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vaccine that was observed before the B.1.351 variant emerged in South Africa" "the trial findings are inconclusive with respect to whether the ChAdOx1 nCov-19 vaccine may protect against severe Covid-19 caused by infection with the B.1.351 variant." "Can't test the increased T-cell immunity" But most importantly the study mentions: ""there were no cases of severe disease or hospitalization in either group" Also, it is now being regarded that the Indian variant is not as elusive at the SA variant and vaccines should offer considerable protection against it but obviously we need data to claim this. But people will most likely need to get yearly shot nonetheless, be it another dose or a booster or a whole another vaccine. Edited May 13, 2021 by KunjanPSD 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 (edited) https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-surgeon-who-got-second-covid-vaccine-in-march-dies-of-virus-7307387/ Covishield Edited May 13, 2021 by Big Boss 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 We need to follow masks and social distancing for 2 years more at least, and not rely entirely on vaccines. At least those of us who can WFH. f**k festivals, parties, celebrations, gatherings for 2 years. It has to be a collective effort. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, Big Boss said: https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-surgeon-who-got-second-covid-vaccine-in-march-dies-of-virus-7307387/ Covishield kya karein vaccine bhi kaam nahi kar rahi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdsarna Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 3 minutes ago, Right said: kya karein vaccine bhi kaam nahi kar rahi. https://indianexpress.com/article/cities/delhi/delhi-surgeon-who-got-second-covid-vaccine-in-march-dies-of-virus-7307387/ Quote Dr Bhardwaj said his team tried all that was possible to save him and even considered a lung transplant: “We gave him whatever was needed. We did everything possible… It’s a huge loss. So many doctors and healthcare staff are falling sick, even after being vaccinated, but they are recovering after having mild symptoms. This is the first death at present of a doctor who was fully vaccinated.” Vaccinated is still better than not vaccinated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted May 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, Right said: kya karein vaccine bhi kaam nahi kar rahi. 4-6 weeks gap between 2 doses was never sufficient. With 12 weeks we have clinical data to back it up. Hopefully now it will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted May 13, 2021 Report Share Posted May 13, 2021 Just now, Mr. Comingle said: There are going to be edge cases obviously. It's not a 100% perfect vaccine. Idk why such cases are used to give more weight to vaccine hesitancy. But I guess, news mein masala zaroori hai. People are so quick to dismiss something. I think these people should just not get the vaccine and let others have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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