The Coronavirus Thread Part 2

[radicaldude]

1 minute ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

How is prudence related to sitting at home ?

Prudence is masking up, washing hands. 

Prudence is testing when you get symptoms. 

Prudence is isolating yourself if you're positive, and not hiding it from neighbours, maids and the world. 

Prudence is NOT taking every sneeze and cough as common cold. 

How many people are even masking up nowadays ? I don't see a single person in my society with a mask. The delivery guy seems better educated than so called rich people - at least he wears a mask. 

Keep saying f**k this and that. Let's talk when you lose somebody close to you due to COVID. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[AtheK]

3 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

How many people are even masking up nowadays ? I don't see a single person in my society with a mask. The delivery guy seems better educated than so called rich people - at least he wears a mask. 

Keep saying f**k this and that. Let's talk when you lose somebody close to you due to COVID. 

and what would you do just because some one is not wearing mask, kill him, hang him. You can do absolutely nothing.

 

What if you lose some one close to you due to Covid when you were sitting at home all the time, and that person still got it and unfortunately passed away, the loss bearing becomes less i guess, though the last few years of his or her life person stayed holed up in a house.

 

You get symptoms

 

1. You test yes, or you just go into isolation for a week

 

That is all you can do and SOP what to do next is published everywhere now this is not 2020.

 

Other then that when you go out. you  mask up you sanitize and you avoid crowded places, that is all you can do, that is all.

 

Lot of them won't stay away from those places, few of them will, it's choice. Exercise it responsibly, that is the only option.

 

 

[Bird Bird Bird]

5 minutes ago, AtheK said:

and what would you do just because some one is not wearing mask, kill him, hang him. You can do absolutely nothing.

 

Of course the law can do things. Remember when people used to get fined for not wearing a mask ? If you can fine for not wearing seat belt, how difficult is it to fine for not wearing a mask in a PUBLIC place (not in the car) ?

There has to be will to implement it. 

 

6 minutes ago, AtheK said:

You get symptoms

 

1. You test yes, or you just go into isolation for a week

 

That is all you can do and SOP what to do next is published everywhere now this is not 2020.

 

Other then that when you go out. you  mask up you sanitize and you avoid crowded places, that is all you can do, that is all.

 

Lot of them won't stay away from those places, few of them will, it's choice. Exercise it responsibly, that is the only option.

 

Are you telling me that EVERYONE who gets symptoms is getting tested ? The vast majority treat it like it's nothing. I have lost count on the number of times people don't want to get tested as they fear they'll come positive. I mean...FFS, testing wont make you positive, and it might save someone's life if you isolate yourself after testing positive. People just don't want to get tested. 

 

Of course, it's my choice to not go to crowded place, and that's what I'm doing currently. 

But don't think we will need 10 years for long covid studies. We already have a f**kton of them - clearly showing this effects almost every function of your body. It's not flu, restrcited to your lungs. 

 

Heck, a recent study in Nature showed loss of naive T and B cells on LC patients ! LOSS of T and B cells - poor chaps can't even develop immunity to new infections ! 

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41590-021-01113-x

 

It can even lead to over proliferation, and cancer. 

 

The author did a small post on Twitter too. 

 

 

 

Again, being prudent is the need of the hour. Get tested, isolate yourself if you've covid, don't be an a**hole. It's pretty simple. 

 

And large social gatherings WILL worsen this. There's no doubt about that. Opening schools will f**k this up. Pediatric cases are already rising, much more then previous months.

 

[AtheK]

agreed brother, but what can you do, the way this sh*t is rolling, everyone is getting effected. I think only 3-4 people are left in my circle who have not get effected, i was one of them, but that will change soon now i guess.

 

Once you are infected you area already on the way for long term covid implications, what ever they are, it can't be reversed anymore, truth is this.

 

govt will never make it a rule, they themselves don't wanna wear it. Then again what do you do with countries like UK, they have already said no more mask starting this week. See other countries follow suit, it's a sh*t show now. The least this jokers can do is open booster dose for all, and get pfizer here and give it to little kids. US has been running it, and don't think any bad news have been reported. That said it is pfizer.

 

As i said i will take my safety net and take some calculated risks, that is all i can do, that is all I will do. Can't do jack shot about what people around me choose to do, can't loose my sleep thinking about it all the time.

Edited January 28, 2022 by AtheK

[Bird Bird Bird]

 

1 minute ago, AtheK said:

i said i will take my safety net and take some calculated risks, that is all i can do, that is all I will do. Can't do jack shot about what people around me choose to do, can't loose my sleep thinking about it all the time.

 

That's what we can do - be prudent and informed. 

 

Another clear study showing LC related to neurological depletion: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.07.475453v1.full

 

I just want people to know that long covid does not take 10 years to manifest. You can start seeing the effects as early as 8-12 weeks post infection. 

 

[Bird Bird Bird]

32 minutes ago, Mr. Comingle said:

Prudent in the context you said it absolutely means not leaving home for unessential things like eating out or gym or idk going on a vacation into the mountains. 

 

You just made up your own definition, dude. 

[Right]

20 hours ago, Big Boss said:

26th was holiday. Those numbers should be treated as Monday numbers. We will know the exact trajectory by mid of next week. Though many have stopped testing even after symptoms.

 

You are right about the latter part. My father in law is definitely infected, he is boosted already, but Doctor (his nephew) asked him not to get tested.

 

2.35L yesterday, steep fall.

Edited January 29, 2022 by Right

[dylanjosh]

9 minutes ago, Right said:

but Doctor (his nephew) asked him not to get tested

 

damn. what reason did he give? 

[Right]

9 minutes ago, dylanjosh said:

damn. what reason did he give? 

 

1. The DM of the town has ordered sealing of houses where cases are found. These guys have a big joint family & business is run out of the office which is within the house, and nephew's paediatric hospital in adjacent building.

 

2. There is nothing that can be done, except having Dolo twice a day and chewing zinc/vitamin supplements. 

[Bird Bird Bird]

1 hour ago, Right said:

 

You are right about the latter part. My father in law is definitely infected, he is boosted already, but Doctor (his nephew) asked him not to get tested.

 

2.35L yesterday, steep fall.

 

Not getting tested is extremely common. 

My FIL got covid (tested positive), and MIL showed symptoms after few days. They kept on isolating themselves from others (they stay independently), but my MIL did not get tested. She assumed she had COVID and took all precautions, but the national COVID tally of course couldn't count her. 

I'm sure this is happening daily at thousands or lacs of homes. 

Official numbers are severely off. 

[AtheK]

And in the hindsight numbers mean nothing now, they are just numbers now

 

they should stop with this daily crap and start reporting daily hospitalisations now.

[hsk_colossus]

 

[Right]

38 minutes ago, AtheK said:

they should stop with this daily crap and start reporting daily hospitalisations now.

true.

But we don't have nationwide hospitalization tracker in India.

 

US hospitalizations are also peaked out.

[AtheK]

1 hour ago, Right said:

true.

But we don't have nationwide hospitalization tracker in India.

 

US hospitalizations are also peaked out.

Ya but they should probably start to put that together or atleast what ever they can muster. I am sure they can work it out, we might get data which is couple of days old due to manual process, but should get some indication.

[Right]

1 hour ago, AtheK said:

Ya but they should probably start to put that together or atleast what ever they can muster. I am sure they can work it out, we might get data which is couple of days old due to manual process, but should get some indication.

 

Ya, it's not very difficult for GOI to do something like that. It took them very less time to create tech for covid registration. Every test request, every test result, wherever it is done, is getting logged in a central database.

[Bird Bird Bird]

3 hours ago, AtheK said:

And in the hindsight numbers mean nothing now, they are just numbers now

 

they should stop with this daily crap and start reporting daily hospitalisations now.

 

3 hours ago, Right said:

true.

But we don't have nationwide hospitalization tracker in India.

 

US hospitalizations are also peaked out.

 

Wrong. Daily counts still give an idea about the level of community transfer, or at least the delta/change. 

 

Very important for those who are immunocompromised to make a decision on going outside or not. My dad is one of them. We have to hold off his neuro consultations since drugs can't be modified unless the specialist examines him personally, and we can't risk taking him to the hospital right now due to high community transfer. 

 

Have to wait till numbers simmer down substantially. 

[AtheK]

8 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

 

Wrong. Daily counts still give an idea about the level of community transfer, or at least the delta/change. 

 

Very important for those who are immunocompromised to make a decision on going outside or not. My dad is one of them. We have to hold off his neuro consultations since drugs can't be modified unless the specialist examines him personally, and we can't risk taking him to the hospital right now due to high community transfer. 

 

Have to wait till numbers simmer down substantially. 

So how does it help you knowing India number is 2.5 lacs when say for example the city you are living in probably has 100 active cases. You can step out then. Regions are reporting individual city numbers, I know bangalore had around 16K cases yesterday, so it's still not safe to venture out, even if reported case in India say would have been 75K.

 

What you need to see is how badly are hospital opd flooded to the hospital you want to take your dad too, India total number makes no sense for you?

[Bird Bird Bird]

1 minute ago, AtheK said:

So how does it help you knowing India number is 2.5 lacs when say for example the city you are living in probably has 100 active cases. You can step out then. Regions are reporting individual city numbers, I know bangalore had around 16K cases yesterday, so it's still not safe to venture out, even if reported case in India say would have been 75K.

 

What you need to see is how badly are hospital opd flooded to the hospital you want to take your dad too, India total number makes no sense for you?

 

I meant city wise numbers. But it's not difficult to report India wide numbers from those city numbers. A simple excel can do that. 

The numbers are important. The deltas are equally important. 

[Right]

Wrong window.

Edited January 30, 2022 by Right

[Right]

Cases down, deaths up...200 more than yesterday.

 

Something isn't right.