Right Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 10:47 PM, Bird Bird Bird said: Pfizer hasn't sold a single vaccine in India but Pfizer should reply to IVG. We are having a general casual convo, which forums are for, I know that you don't have any personal stake in Pfizer, neither do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VelivolusDas Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, Right said: We are having a general casual convo. Of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Right said: You also show your talent. Kitne mare as per your calculation? Covid was fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, KunjanPSD said: Covid was fake. Now, we are talking. Just like moon landing, it was. :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gta_mad Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 9:39 PM, Right said: She is alive yes, thankfully. But a lot of people are dropping dead. Myocarditis or blood clots has become quite frequent in young ppl who took Pfizer. Define frequent in SAE. The 1st dosage SAE is at 4 cases per one million. Not a single research article . The % increase is so negligible at statistical sense. Also mRNA as vaccine tech is not new new. Ebola had same vaccine tech and sars as whole has been in research for last 10 years. None of the vaccine is unproven at any sense. If you need be something to be scared of , check Indian trials numbers(number of people taken the trial) of new medicines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 3 hours ago, Gta_mad said: Define frequent in SAE. The 1st dosage SAE is at 4 cases per one million. Not a single research article . The % increase is so negligible at statistical sense. Data provided for SAE in controlled tests is unreliable, thesuggestion that SAE is pretty bad is on basis of what we are seeing in the wild. This gets highlighted only by individuals who are celebs or have public presence that public will take note of. For example, DiedSuddenly has documented cases amongst athletes, which is significantly big cohot of young healthy people. What wiuld be this number? half a million to a million tops in the US. This particular cohort has seen numbers which are far bigger than 4 per million. Now there are two ways to look at it. One that athletes go through a lot rigourous cardiovascular regime than normal person and they are more susceptible to SAE like myocarditis, second that similar SAE can be seen in non-athletes just that it doesnt come to limelight. That is scary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gta_mad Posted March 27, 2023 Report Share Posted March 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Right said: Data provided for SAE in controlled tests is unreliable, thesuggestion that SAE is pretty bad is on basis of what we are seeing in the wild. This gets highlighted only by individuals who are celebs or have public presence that public will take note of. For example, DiedSuddenly has documented cases amongst athletes, which is significantly big cohot of young healthy people. What wiuld be this number? half a million to a million tops in the US. This particular cohort has seen numbers which are far bigger than 4 per million. Now there are two ways to look at it. One that athletes go through a lot rigourous cardiovascular regime than normal person and they are more susceptible to SAE like myocarditis, second that similar SAE can be seen in non-athletes just that it doesnt come to limelight. That is scary. If that's the case. The sampling strategy is wrong. The point of rct is that you even out extreme edge cases and try to find a statistical validation for the population. You can't just call a trial unreliable without a valid data And the sample for covishield,Pfizer and moderna vaccine was pretty diverse. For your example, how do we know there wasn't some pre existing complicacy (it goes both ways) Also SAE reporting/rare disease isn't something hidden atleast for fda or Ema. They have very structured way of reporting. I really doubt that it will not be recorded and patient history won't be checked. If it was a widespread issue it is bound to come to limelight. The data isn't there to identify this a direct correlation. Not a single peer reviewed paper has proven this as direct correlation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted March 28, 2023 Report Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Right said: Data provided for SAE in controlled tests is unreliable, thesuggestion that SAE is pretty bad is on basis of what we are seeing in the wild. This gets highlighted only by individuals who are celebs or have public presence that public will take note of. For example, DiedSuddenly has documented cases amongst athletes, which is significantly big cohot of young healthy people. What wiuld be this number? half a million to a million tops in the US. This particular cohort has seen numbers which are far bigger than 4 per million. Now there are two ways to look at it. One that athletes go through a lot rigourous cardiovascular regime than normal person and they are more susceptible to SAE like myocarditis, second that similar SAE can be seen in non-athletes just that it doesnt come to limelight. That is scary. Anecdotel experience is not evidence. Thats the most basic fallacy non researchers make. What's your basis of calling SAE reporting as unreliable ? The Covid India death toll is unreliable due to reporting biases in reporting modality - that's something we consistently know. On what basis are you throwing numbers like "magnitude of 3 or 4" whatever ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhpian Bali Posted April 7, 2023 Report Share Posted April 7, 2023 Daily Covid cases top 5k as Delhi, Kerala see sharp rise https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/daily-covid-cases-top-5k-as-delhi-kerala-see-sharp-rise/articleshow/99309054.cms Download the TOI app now: https://timesofindia.onelink.me/mjFd/toisupershare Yeh kya fir shuru ho gaya? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted April 8, 2023 Report Share Posted April 8, 2023 On 4/7/2023 at 7:00 AM, Bhpian Bali said: Daily Covid cases top 5k as Delhi, Kerala see sharp rise https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/daily-covid-cases-top-5k-as-delhi-kerala-see-sharp-rise/articleshow/99309054.cms Download the TOI app now: https://timesofindia.onelink.me/mjFd/toisupershare Yeh kya fir shuru ho gaya? Market gira de bus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 When you get bitchslapped by the USFDA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted April 12, 2023 Report Share Posted April 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: When you get bitchslapped by the USFDA. But that will go right above the heads of headline readers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 16, 2023 Report Share Posted April 16, 2023 Legit saviors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpearHea:D Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 monkeypox is homophobic 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted April 19, 2023 Report Share Posted April 19, 2023 Fauci will see inside of a jail cell.....Rand Paul ftw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhpian Bali Posted April 20, 2023 Report Share Posted April 20, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 6:11 PM, SpearHea:D said: monkeypox is homophobic iske baare mein toh bhool hi gaya tha. guess the world stopped paying attention when it was revealed that it is a gaystation disease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Boss Posted June 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 19 minutes ago, Right said: Isn't he the same guy who said Jews learnt evil from Nazis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Boss said: Isn't he the same guy who said Jews learnt evil from Nazis Who? But that's politics, and even the brightest and sharpest people of science can have dumb political opinions. point is that his political opinions will be used to discredit his science, and that is dangerous. Edited June 5, 2023 by Right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted June 5, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Right said: Who? But that's politics, and even the brightest and sharpest people of science can have dumb political opinions. point is that his political opinions will be used to discredit his science, and that is dangerous. Ya that's dangerous. Legit evidences are dismissed just because of political stands Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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