The Coronavirus Thread Part 2

[Walker]

12 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

Massive traffic here. Crackers etc are blowing. People are celebrating New year before 11 pm as curfew starts from 11 pm. Government must be like:

Lol need I remind you. Can't believe this sh*t happened and people are as idiotic as they were before.

 

[Jigsaw]

8 minutes ago, Walker said:

Lol need I remind you. Can't believe this sh*t happened and people are as idiotic as they were before.

 

As the saying goes “A society gets the criminal it deserves”

 

The difference between a calf and a bhakt is the calf even at infancy knows the difference between milk and urine. 

[Walker]

I got invited to few parties myself. I just made it a point to cough and sneeze a few times on the call. Conversations were incredibly short

 

[Bhpian Bali]

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/india-set-to-approve-its-first-covid-vaccine-nationwide-dry-run-tomorrow/articleshow/80062783.cms

 

 

Black marketing news coming soon.

[Jigsaw]

7 minutes ago, Bhpian Bali said:

https://m.timesofindia.com/india/india-set-to-approve-its-first-covid-vaccine-nationwide-dry-run-tomorrow/articleshow/80062783.cms

 

 

Black marketing news coming soon.

Sam ko bolte hai IVG Bulk Preorders ka? 

[Walker]

Dafuq there were some impressive parties this year in Goa. Like corona never existed. I actually thought people would not risk it (don't ask me why I thought that) BC c****** public hai. 

Edited January 1, 2021 by Walker

[Jigsaw]

2 minutes ago, Walker said:

Dafuq there were some impressive parties this year in Goa. Like corona never existed. I actually thought people would not risk it (don't ask me why I thought that) BC c****** public hai. 

Same here. Tabloids proudly covering nye bashes in Mumbai with clowns dancing ofc w/o masks. 
 

[roun90]

Saw an interview with Ardha Poonawalla (Head of Serum Institute) on India Today Yesterday. Some key points:

 

1) Oxford/Astra Zeneca Vaccine is ready. They are waiting for final licences from Indian Govt. now.

 

2) Vaccine will be given in 2 doses. After the 1st dose, 2nd dose will have to be taken after a gap of 2-3 months for maximum efficacy

 

3) After taking vaccine, you can still get Covid 19. It's not like you will never get it. However, all cases will be rendered asymptomatic for everyone who has taken it. There will be no severe symptoms or hospitalizations. In all their tests, there was 0% Hospitalizations.

 

4) Vaccine can handle all strains of Corona currently and possibly even in the future. They studied the nature of the mutations and found out the mutation patterns were minor, which the vaccine could handle.

 

5) Modi had visited their factories and had given them help when required. Initial distribution will be through Govt.

 

6) Initial Distribution will be through Govt. for priority people including medical/front-line workers and people most at risk such as the elderly. Costs through Govt. Distribution is approximated to be $3 per dose ($6 for complete 2 doses)

 

7) By April, vaccine availability will be so wide-spread that everyone (Including general Public) can get it. You would be able to get it at chemist stores also. This will be through Private Distribution and not Govt. Distribution.

 

8) Cost of Vaccine on Private Channels is set to be at Rs 700 per dose (Rs 1400 total for 2 doses)

 

9) Vaccine can be stored at 2 degree - 10 degrees (Fridge Temperature instead of Deep Freeze Temperature)

 

10) As of the date of interview, Serum Institute had enough stocks to immediately vaccinate around 25 million people. Stocks were worth around 22000 Crores. They had armed security everywhere.

 

11) Serum Institute is producing around 5500 Vaccines per minute to ensure enough stocks will be available for everyone.

 

[Jigsaw]

Point # 7

 

Office jaana padega 

[roun90]

21 minutes ago, Jigsaw said:

Point # 7

 

Office jaana padega 

 

Oh yeah, I forgot some points as well:

 

12) SERUM Institute is in talks with companies as well, so companies can distribute vaccines to all employees so they can get their b**ts back to office. So you might be going back to Office much earlier than April.

 

13) As soon as the final Licensing is done, Ardha Poonawalla is going to take the vaccine himself and post on Social Media to inspire confidence in people.

Edited January 2, 2021 by roun90

[playstationdude]

35 minutes ago, Jigsaw said:

Point # 7

 

Office jaana padega 

Seriously man, our office can easily offer permanent /rotational WFH for around 70% of employees, yet they are opposed to the idea as they believe in working as groups.

WFH is so much more convenient, saves so much time and effort travelling, i can not only take out time for my health but also spend 1-2 hour more daily on office work.

 

Not sure why the opposition to WFH, just call people when needed.

[Bird Bird Bird]

45 minutes ago, Jigsaw said:

Point # 7

 

Office jaana padega 

Not really. 

 

If you've to get vaccinated twice 3 months apart, we still have 7-10 months to go before offices open fully - but corporates are eager to get employees back, so stupidity has no bounds.

The bigger question is how long does this immunity last ? 2 months ? 6 months ? 10 months ? 

 

[dante77]

Seriously man, our office can easily offer permanent /rotational WFH for around 70% of employees, yet they are opposed to the idea as they believe in working as groups.
WFH is so much more convenient, saves so much time and effort travelling, i can not only take out time for my health but also spend 1-2 hour more daily on office work.
 
Not sure why the opposition to WFH, just call people when needed.

Exactly. I realized I am much more productive at home and usually give more time than office and get the job done earlier and at the same time feel like I am still getting more personal time and getting my sleep hours enough.

Although, ready to go to office for a few days or week per a month or two. I am at my hometown so that's a big plus.

[Bird Bird Bird]

1 hour ago, roun90 said:

3) After taking vaccine, you can still get Covid 19. It's not like you will never get it. However, all cases will be rendered asymptomatic for everyone who has taken it. There will be no severe symptoms or hospitalizations. In all their tests, there was 0% Hospitalizations.

 

4) Vaccine can handle all strains of Corona currently and possibly even in the future. They studied the nature of the mutations and found out the mutation patterns were minor, which the vaccine could handle.

How is he so sure ? The best efficacy percentage is 95, and even then a segment of the population will not develop antibodies with the vaccine. 

Regarding handling all strains of SARS COV2, let's see what the future holds. We will most likely need fresh doses every few months/year as virus keeps on mutating (like flu vaccine). 

But still ZERO clinical data out in public domain. Zero information. Not a very confidence inspiring thing. 

[playstationdude]

10 minutes ago, dante77 said:

Exactly. I realized I am much more productive at home and usually give more time than office and get the job done earlier and at the same time feel like I am still getting more personal time and getting my sleep hours enough.

Although, ready to go to office for a few days or week per a month or two. I am at my hometown so that's a big plus.

Exactly, more than fine to go to office once or twice a week if this is needed.

 

There will be some projects where it wont be possible, but for the remaining 70% they can easily offer complete WFH. 

 

Also think of the infra cost (office setup) they will save in rents. Only negative side i see is rental industry and low skill workers (office boys etc) getting f**ked

[Walker]

35 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

How is he so sure ? The best efficacy percentage is 95, and even then a segment of the population will not develop antibodies with the vaccine. 

Regarding handling all strains of SARS COV2, let's see what the future holds. We will most likely need fresh doses every few months/year as virus keeps on mutating (like flu vaccine). 

But still ZERO clinical data out in public domain. Zero information. Not a very confidence inspiring thing. 

This. 

[Jigsaw]

55 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

Not really. 

 

If you've to get vaccinated twice 3 months apart, we still have 7-10 months to go before offices open fully - but corporates are eager to get employees back, so stupidity has no bounds.

The bigger question is how long does this immunity last ? 2 months ? 6 months ? 10 months ? 

 

Bhai ppl are dying ( pun intended ) to commute daily, exchange sweat rubbing each other’s moist bodies in trains and what not to return back to work. 
 

The end is inevitable 

[roun90]

58 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

How is he so sure ? The best efficacy percentage is 95, and even then a segment of the population will not develop antibodies with the vaccine. 

Regarding handling all strains of SARS COV2, let's see what the future holds. We will most likely need fresh doses every few months/year as virus keeps on mutating (like flu vaccine). 

But still ZERO clinical data out in public domain. Zero information. Not a very confidence inspiring thing. 

 

According to him, they have conducted extensive tests on people and studied how the virus mutated over the course of the last 9 months to arrive at the conclusion. Currently there is 90% efficacy. The interview did not mention how long antibodies last. Just that 2 doses will be enough. Perhaps it might be enough permanently? I don't know - we don't take Polio Vaccines throughout life do we?

 

He was very clear though - The Vaccine will not prevent you from catching Covid at all. Just that it will reduce the severity for everyone and make it asymptomatic, so there will be no hospitalizations at all. They have also already tested and taken approvals from all labs throughout various countries (I forgot the name of the Indian govt. lab mentioned, sorry)

 

As far as public domain - it will come out later maybe?

 

He also mentioned upfront that he was very confident in the vaccine, to the point that he will take it himself once the final approval comes in and post it on the net. He's also sunk in truck loads of money (which we wil never see the likes of in our lives), so that might inspire confidence in us maybe?

 

They are also going to supply to govt. and companies - so it has to have been tested (even if it's not in public domain yet). Can't have every employee and all people who have taken vaccine from govt. falling sick, can we? It would spell the death of companies and even Govt. will have a very bad name.

 

Frankly, to me I'm just waiting for some working vaccine to come. I would like to be able to travel again and not look over my shoulder every footstep to see I accidentally don't come close to someone. Enough is enough. Please let something worthwhile come out.

Edited January 2, 2021 by roun90

[Jigsaw]

5 minutes ago, adity said:

I on the other hand much prefer going to office. WFH sucks. 

[Jigsaw]

1 hour ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

How is he so sure ? The best efficacy percentage is 95, and even then a segment of the population will not develop antibodies with the vaccine. 

Regarding handling all strains of SARS COV2, let's see what the future holds. We will most likely need fresh doses every few months/year as virus keeps on mutating (like flu vaccine). 

But still ZERO clinical data out in public domain. Zero information. Not a very confidence inspiring thing. 

Doc Bhaiyya

 

Asymptotic meaning no hospitalisation means? Would it still continue to be contagious? As in if a vaccinated person catches it, will/can they still infect others like now?