Big Boss Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, kunjanp said: In approval doesn't mean orders. Also these nations didn't order BB. And most of the preorders are SII, Cadilla and DRL/Sputnik aka vaccines with data. Yes. People celebrating the export of these non Indian vaccines are like Chinese who celebrate sales of iphones manufactured in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 12 minutes ago, Big Boss said: Yes. People celebrating the export of these non Indian vaccines are like Chinese who celebrate sales of iphones manufactured in China. Cadilla does look promising to me, even the DRL data. By the time we chance to get the vaccine, we should have many options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Boss said: Brazil is getting covishield and UAE is getting AstraZeneca. UAE is already distributing Chinese vaccines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhpian Bali Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Big Boss said: Brazil is getting covishield and UAE is getting AstraZeneca. they are the same arent they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Hawk Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bhpian Bali said: they are the same arent they? Yes, both UAE and Brazil getting AstraZeneca's Covishield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted February 22, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 On 2/20/2021 at 8:00 PM, hope said: First Evidence based Medicine India doing amazing https://wap.business-standard.com/article-amp/current-affairs/ramdev-releases-paper-on-patanjali-s-1st-proof-based-covid-drug-coronil-coronavirus-treatment-121021900404_1.html https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ima-shocked-over-patanjalis-claim-on-coronil-demands-explanation-from-harsh-vardhan/article33902720.ece The Indian Medical Association on Monday expressed shock and dismay at what it called is a “blatant lie of WHO certification” for Patanjali’s Coronil tablet, which the company said can be used to fight the COVID-19. It has also demanded an explanation from Health Minister Harsh Vardhan about his presence at the event where Coronil was launched last week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 10 hours ago, Bhpian Bali said: there are over 10 to 15 cr doses ready just with serum institute and there is no rollout for general population. They are doing this painfully slowly. I saw a vaccine van here a month ago. However they were using only 4 vaccination centres (all govt. hospitals) for the whole of KDMC. That's a stupid idea from the start. Use schools. They are empty and they can handle large numbers of people at a time. With just 500 health workers (vnot that hard to find in a city this big) administering vaccines full time they could complete giving every resident 2 doses within 2 months (only constraint being supply of vaccines). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Big Boss said: https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ima-shocked-over-patanjalis-claim-on-coronil-demands-explanation-from-harsh-vardhan/article33902720.ece The Indian Medical Association on Monday expressed shock and dismay at what it called is a “blatant lie of WHO certification” for Patanjali’s Coronil tablet, which the company said can be used to fight the COVID-19. It has also demanded an explanation from Health Minister Harsh Vardhan about his presence at the event where Coronil was launched last week. HV is a quack with a degree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Banz said: They are doing this painfully slowly. I saw a vaccine van here a month ago. However they were using only 4 vaccination centres (all govt. hospitals) for the whole of KDMC. That's a stupid idea from the start. Use schools. They are empty and they can handle large numbers of people at a time. With just 500 health workers (vnot that hard to find in a city this big) administering vaccines full time they could complete giving every resident 2 doses within 2 months (only constraint being supply of vaccines). I think we need to hand over the vaccination job to the private sector. Just look at the rate by which covid testing increased post privatisation, this can certainly result in price gouging etc etc but if govt. wants to get this done asap, it needs to get private sector in. Atleast by doing that it can keep a check on them or even set a price limit for the people getting it individually because once these are available on the open market, there is no chance that price gouging won't happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banz Posted February 22, 2021 Report Share Posted February 22, 2021 1 hour ago, kunjanp said: I think we need to hand over the vaccination job to the private sector. Just look at the rate by which covid testing increased post privatisation, this can certainly result in price gouging etc etc but if govt. wants to get this done asap, it needs to get private sector in. Atleast by doing that it can keep a check on them or even set a price limit for the people getting it individually because once these are available on the open market, there is no chance that price gouging won't happen. I am not a fan of just giving everything to the private sector. That's just a way for the government to absolve itself from its own responsibility. Considering how much time they had to prepare for a vaccination drive while the vaccines were being researched on and tested, this is a massive failure. In the time the vaccine makers did all that, the govt. couldn't recruit and train enough staff to get this done quickly. If it takes too long to vaccinate everyone, the vaccine would be useless. A lot more effort goes into organising an election and we do those all the time. At this point, releasing the vaccine into the open market might be the better option. Fix a price for it, something that is affordable. But only those people who are aware of, can afford, and want the vaccine will get it by themselves. For full coverage, the govt. still has to do most of thr work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 Govt plans to do 30cr vaccination by August, that comes around 14L per day. Its pretty much possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhpian Bali Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Right said: Govt plans to do 30cr vaccination by August, that comes around 14L per day. Its pretty much possible. thats a very unfortunate number if that is the target set by the govt. the speed with which they are exporting vaccines is missing here. People are getting restless and a lot of top people are openly asking the govt to release it to the public via pvt sector. They should also approve moderna and pfizer now that pfizer too can be stored at normal freezer temp for 2 weeks. All my old relatives abroad have already got the vaccine and one of my younger cousins is also in line already in UK. Maharashtra govt has requested early phase 3 vaccination. In Pune at least they have collected age, health etc data twice already. I am hopeful that vaccination in Pune at least will be fast.https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/pune/state-told-to-boost-coverage-after-it-sought-early-phase-3/articleshow/81160598.cms Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KunjanPSD Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 8 hours ago, Banz said: I am not a fan of just giving everything to the private sector. That's just a way for the government to absolve itself from its own responsibility. Considering how much time they had to prepare for a vaccination drive while the vaccines were being researched on and tested, this is a massive failure. In the time the vaccine makers did all that, the govt. couldn't recruit and train enough staff to get this done quickly. If it takes too long to vaccinate everyone, the vaccine would be useless. A lot more effort goes into organising an election and we do those all the time. At this point, releasing the vaccine into the open market might be the better option. Fix a price for it, something that is affordable. But only those people who are aware of, can afford, and want the vaccine will get it by themselves. For full coverage, the govt. still has to do most of thr work. I am not pro-privatisation either but the reality is that's what we need. We can blame the govt. and call it a failure but problems can't be solved in hindsight. Only way to pick up the pace right now is private sector. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bird Bird Bird Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 9 hours ago, Banz said: am not a fan of just giving everything to the private sector. That's just a way for the government to absolve itself from its own responsibility. Unfortunately the current govt is heavily into privatisation. My personal belief is that a democracy can thrive with a mix of capitalism and socialism. Pure capitalism will lead to US like market, where the gap between an average earner and HNIs increases every passing minute, and most laws are passed for the benefit of corporations and not the citizens. I kinda like UK/EU's structure. FWIW, they do have issues but basic mandates like education, healthcare is owned by the govt, and quite successfully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushab oswal Posted February 23, 2021 Report Share Posted February 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said: Unfortunately the current govt is heavily into privatisation. My personal belief is that a democracy can thrive with a mix of capitalism and socialism. Pure capitalism will lead to US like market, where the gap between an average earner and HNIs increases every passing minute, and most laws are passed for the benefit of corporations and not the citizens. I kinda like UK/EU's structure. FWIW, they do have issues but basic mandates like education, healthcare is owned by the govt, and quite successfully. Agree . Too much governance means Turtle's pace of work . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnackChap Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 From March 1st everyone above 60 and PPL with co-morbidities above 45 will be eligible for vaccine. Free at govt centres, paid at private. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snake Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 hours ago, KnackChap said: From March 1st everyone above 60 and PPL with co-morbidities above 45 will be eligible for vaccine. Free at govt centres, paid at private. which vaccine is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Boss Posted February 24, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 Maharashtra 8800+ today. Pune 743, pcmc 450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Boss said: Maharashtra 8800+ today. Pune 743, pcmc 450 Vaccinations or covid cases? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aloy Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 I haven't been following the news so can anyone tell me what's the deal with Coronil? It's definitely a scam, isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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