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7 minutes ago, AtheK said:

I hope we see some generics soon. That pricing is bullshit. 

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9 minutes ago, adity said:

I hope we see some generics soon. That pricing is bullshit. 

Even at that cost, it's still much less then getting admitted. More then the price I am looking forward to see real life results, and if it does help in mild conditions I am sure it will be subsidized. 

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Reposting this here (Direct Copy/Paste from the old Locked Thread), since it might prove useful to someone:

 

Name Of Disease: SARS-CoV-2 (Known commonly as simply Coronavirus)

 

Place of Origin: Wuhan, China

 

Symptoms

 

Common Symptoms

 

Researchers in China found that the most common symptoms among people who were hospitalized with COVID-19 include:

Fever: 99%

Fatigue:70%

A dry cough: 59%

Loss of appetite: 40%

Body aches: 35%

Shortness of breath: 31%

Mucus or phlegm: 27%

Symptoms usually begin 2 to 14 days after you come into contact with the virus.

Other symptoms may include:

Sore throat

Headache

Chills, sometimes with shaking

Loss of smell or taste

Stuffy nose

Nausea or vomiting

Diarrhea

 

Emergency Symptoms

 

Call a doctor or hospital right away if you have one or more of these COVID-19 symptoms:

Trouble breathing

Constant pain or pressure in your chest

Bluish lips or face

Sudden confusion

 

You need medical care as soon as possible. Call your doctor’s office or hospital before you go in. This will help them prepare to treat you and protect medical staff and other patients.

Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19.

 

Remember FAST:

Face. Is one side of the person’s face numb or drooping? Is their smile lopsided?

Arms. Is one arm weak or numb? If they try to raise both arms, does one arm sag?

Speech. Can they speak clearly? Ask them to repeat a sentence.

Time. Every minute counts when someone shows signs of a stroke. Call 911 right away.

Lab tests can tell if COVID-19 is what’s causing your symptoms. But the tests can be hard to find, and there’s no treatment if you do have the disease. So you don’t need to get tested if you have no symptoms or only mild ones. Call your doctor or your local health department if you have questions.

 

There are more symptoms as well. For example symptoms on children etc.For more details, including more symptoms and details on things like how to care for children etc. please check the source below

 

Copy/Pasted from Source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-19-symptoms#2

 

Recovery from CoVID 19:

 

 

Coronavirus Recovery Rates

 

Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.

 

How You Might Feel While Recovering

 

Not everyone who catches SARS-CoV-2 will notice symptoms. If you do get them, they may show up 2 to 14 days after your infection. And those symptoms can vary from one person to the next.

The most common sign is a fever, which for most adults is 100.4 F or higher. Nearly 9 in 10 people who test positive for the disease have a high temperature. It’s a sign that your body is trying to fight off an invader.

About 70% of people who become ill have a dry cough. That’s the kind that doesn’t bring up any mucus or phlegm. But about a third have a cough with mucus.

You also might feel very tired. Less commonly, your throat may be sore and your head might ache. Your muscles and joints could hurt, and you might get chills, nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea.

Some people who had COVID-19 said they had trouble taking deep breaths and felt like they had a tight band wrapped around their chest. Others have likened the illness to a bad cold. Still others said it was the sickest they’ve ever felt.

Loss of smell and taste have been reported in some cases. But researchers aren’t yet sure about the link to COVID-19.

You might feel short of breath, as if you’d just run to grab a ringing phone. If so, call your doctor to ask about what you should do.

 

What’s the Recovery Time for Coronavirus?

 

It may take 2 weeks for your body to get over the illness. That’s the average recovery time for mild cases, according to the World Health Organization. For those with severe or critical cases, recovery can take up to 6 weeks.

CDC guidelines say that if you’ve been sick, you should isolate yourself at home until all of these things are true:

You haven’t had a fever for 72 hours (3 days) without using a fever-reducing medicine

Your symptoms are better, though they might not be totally gone

It’s been at least 7 days since your symptoms started OR you’ve had two negative COVID-19 tests 24 hours apart

 

Recovery After Severe Illness With COVID-19

 

About 14% of people who have the new coronavirus need to stay in the hospital to get help breathing. This might last 2 weeks or more.

Some people who have severe COVID-19 get a complication called acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS), which can damage your lungs and make it very hard to breathe.

If you’re severely ill, you might need treatment in an intensive care unit (ICU). Many patients who spend time in the ICU lose weight and strength. You may also have memory problems afterward.

Your medical team will work with you to treat or manage these symptoms, including exercises to boost your strength.

 

Recovery Outlook

 

Scientists are still looking at how a person’s immune system responds to COVID-19 and whether you can catch the virus again after you recover. One early study on monkeys found that they didn’t get infected a second time. But you might have the virus in your body for weeks, so it’s a good idea to keep following official advice on washing your hands, keeping surfaces clean, and staying home when possible.

 

How to Feel Better

 

There’s no treatment for COVID-19. Some of the things you can do to speed your healing are similar to how you might take care of the flu or a bad cold.

Eat healthy foods. If you feel like eating, fuel your body with the vitamins and nutrients it needs to get better. Limit sugary or highly processed foods like cookies and sodas. If you don’t have an appetite, you don’t need to try to force food down.

Drinks lots of fluids. Do this even if you don’t feel like eating. Water is always a good pick.

Lower your fever. Take acetaminophen or ibuprofen if you have a temperature or body aches. Be careful not to take more than a total of 3,000 milligrams every 24 hours. That includes acetaminophen alone as well as in medications like cold and flu pills and syrups.

Rest. Know that you’ll probably feel better eventually. If your symptoms do get worse, call your doctor.

 

Copy/Pasted From Source: https://www.webmd.com/lung/covid-recovery-overview#1

 

How the Virus Spreads:

 

 

There is currently no vaccine to prevent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

The best way to prevent illness is to avoid being exposed to this virus.

The virus is thought to spread mainly from person-to-person.

Between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).

Through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs, sneezes or talks.

These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.

Some recent studies have suggested that COVID-19 may be spread by people who are not showing symptoms.

 

Copy/Pasted From Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

 

Precautions:

 

 

Wash your hands often

 

Wash your hands often with soap and water for at least 20 seconds especially after you have been in a public place, or after blowing your nose, coughing, or sneezing.

If soap and water are not readily available, use a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol. Cover all surfaces of your hands and rub them together until they feel dry.

Avoid touching your eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands.

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Avoid close contact

 

Avoid close contact with people who are sick, even inside your home. If possible, maintain 6 feet between the person who is sick and other household members.

Put distance between yourself and other people outside of your home.

Remember that some people without symptoms may be able to spread virus.

Stay at least 6 feet (about 2 arms’ length) from other people.

Keeping distance from others is especially important for people who are at higher risk of getting very sick.

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Cover your mouth and nose with a cloth face cover when around others

 

You could spread COVID-19 to others even if you do not feel sick.

Everyone should wear a cloth face cover when they have to go out in public, for example to the grocery store or to pick up other necessities.

Cloth face coverings should not be placed on young children under age 2, anyone who has trouble breathing, or is unconscious, incapacitated or otherwise unable to remove the mask without assistance.

The cloth face cover is meant to protect other people in case you are infected.

Do NOT use a facemask meant for a healthcare worker.

Continue to keep about 6 feet between yourself and others. The cloth face cover is not a substitute for social distancing.

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Cover coughs and sneezes

 

If you are around others and do not have on your cloth face covering, remember to always cover your mouth and nose with a tissue when you cough or sneeze or use the inside of your elbow and do not spit.

Throw used tissues in the trash.

Immediately wash your hands with soap and water for at least 20 seconds. If soap and water are not readily available, clean your hands with a hand sanitizer that contains at least 60% alcohol.

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Clean and Disinfect

 

Clean AND disinfect frequently touched surfaces daily. This includes tables, doorknobs, light switches, countertops, handles, desks, phones, keyboards, toilets, faucets, and sinks.

If surfaces are dirty, clean them. Use detergent or soap and water prior to disinfection.

Then, use a household disinfectant. Most common EPA-registered household disinfectantsexternal icon will work.

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Monitor Your Health

 

Be alert for symptoms. Watch for fever, cough, shortness of breath, or other symptoms of COVID-19.

Especially important if you are running essential errands, going into the office or workplace, and in settings where it may be difficult to keep a physical distance of 6 feet.

Take your temperature if symptoms develop.

Don’t take your temperature within 30 minutes of exercising or after taking medications that could lower your temperature, like acetaminophen.

 

Copy/Pasted From Source: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/prevention.html

 

CoVid19 Helpline Numbers in India (Number to Dial if you need help in India based on State and Central Helpline No.)

 

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Taken From Sourcehttps://www.ndtv.com/coronavirus/helpline-numbers

 

@Mods/Admins: I took the liberty of creating this new thread because the old topic was not updating properly anymore, and it was an important topic. I added some information that I thought might be useful in the OP. If this is not allowed, then I apologize for it and please feel free to delete the thread.

 

Also for all other members here, especially those who are residing abroad, it might help if you could find and post the helpline nos. of the countries you are situated in. Who knows, it might really help someone one day.

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22 hours ago, roun90 said:

 

There was a major medical researcher on India Today some days ago. He basically said for herd immunity to develop, around 50% of the population will have to get the virus. No mention of deaths, just the fact that they have to catch it. This was true for all diseases according to him. Realistically, this will mean lots of deaths, but then again, this is the main bright spot over there as of now at least. Seems both the Govt. and people of US and Brazil are least bothered about the virus, so what else can be done?

 

@KnackChap

 

Herd immunity needs at least 70% of the population to be infected, depending on the disease (70-90%). We don't know the exact number for COVID, but minimum is 70%, which will also carry significant mortality and permanent morbidity. 

 

9 hours ago, adity said:

I hope we see some generics soon. That pricing is bullshit. 

 

That IS a generic of Avigan. We might see other branded generics from other companies soon since DCGI has already set a precedence. 

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6 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Herd immunity needs at least 70% of the population to be infected, depending on the disease (70-90%). We don't know the exact number for COVID, but minimum is 70%, which will also carry significant mortality and permanent morbidity. 

 

 

That IS a generic of Avigan. We might see other branded generics from other companies soon since DCGI has already set a precedence. 

Bro being an actual doctor and not a gaming researcher :P, what's your take on this medicine? Do you think it's effective?

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2 hours ago, KnackChap said:

Delhi with 3.6k+ cases is almost about to go past Maharashtra's day to day nos. 

Delhi is fked tbh.
 

For last 3 months CM did paid advertisement daily in front of Indian flags. Under tested, under reported, gave false assurances that Mohalla clinic will work for them.

People thought everything is tiptop and they came out in hordes to buy booze.

 

Now the Health minister himself is critical.

 

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2 hours ago, playstationdude said:

Bro being an actual doctor and not a gaming researcher :P, what's your take on this medicine? Do you think it's effective?

The clinical trial data is not out, so nobody can say for certainty. 

If you look at the license, its for prescription use only in case of emergencies in mild/moderate cases, so the use is severely restricted. 

I'm sure the DCGI approval came after some preliminary data was shared with them, and hence the limited approval. 

Will reserve any judgement until we get the published study. It can be a game changer or junk. The atmosphere right now is to find a cure, any cure, for COVID, and the DCGI will also be under immense political pressure to approve such drugs. I've worked with them multiple times, and I know how they work. 

So, take it with a grain of salt. 

Don't buy the drugs yourself unless you've a prescription. 

Take it under medical supervision only. 

 

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3 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Herd immunity needs at least 70% of the population to be infected, depending on the disease (70-90%). We don't know the exact number for COVID, but minimum is 70%, which will also carry significant mortality and permanent morbidity. 

 

 

I don't get it, how will people suddenly become immune if 70% of the population gets it ? What prevents it from causing harm to the 70% or to the remaining 30% ?

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9 minutes ago, Ne0 said:

I don't get it, how will people suddenly become immune if 70% of the population gets it ? What prevents it from causing harm to the 70% or to the remaining 30% ?

 

The 70% people who have already recovered become immune and can no longer spread the virus. So virus cannot freely spread from person to person then. The immune people shield the vulnerable ones. That is how vaccinations for measles, polio, etc. work, but I'm not sure if people who have recovered from Covid are fully immune like this. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ne0 said:

 

I don't get it, how will people suddenly become immune if 70% of the population gets it ? What prevents it from causing harm to the 70% or to the remaining 30% ?

 

Easy explainer (we don't know if HI is possible for SARS-COV2 or not): 

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Banz said:

 

The 70% people who have already recovered become immune and can no longer spread the virus. So virus cannot freely spread from person to person then. The immune people shield the vulnerable ones. That is how vaccinations for measles, polio, etc. work, but I'm not sure if people who have recovered from Covid are fully immune like this. 

 

 

 

So the assumption here's that atleast 70% of the ppl are naturally immune to the disease ?

11 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Easy explainer (we don't know if HI is possible for SARS-COV2 or not): 

 

 

 

Thanks. Understood, so the theory works with a vaccine in place.  But, without a vaccine, like in the present scenario, herd immunity is just a chance/wild guess, am I right ?

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