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2 hours ago, Bhpian Bali said:

 



Pune and Mumbai needs a special vaccination policy at the earliest. Vaccination for anyone that has to go out of house otherwise such waves will keep on hitting us.  

 

PM meet with Cm(s) today. Maybe maha govt will ask for a vax for all policy seeing how they've not even used half the allotted vaccines so far. 

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Can someone get the second dose at a different town? My parents will move in about three weeks. I have been trying to convince them to get vaccine (this is another frustrating matter, it makes me angry all the time talking with them as they have unfortunately become almost like anti-vaxxers after all the rumors and afwaah on social media), but not sure if I can get them to take it even if I can convince them (as they won't be available to take the second dose at the same site)? 

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8 minutes ago, kunjanp said:

Is vaccination still limited to 60+ bracket or are there any private hospitals catering to people who want to get it by paying up?

I saw somewhere that it is available to people above 45 with pre-existing conditions. I believe that a good portion of people that age in India would qualify under something common such as hypertension. That is how I'd try to get my parents to do it (if I can convince them) as they are not 60 quite yet. 

 

By the way, I have hypertension at 29 years of age, and got vaccinated (in the US) last Saturday! Johnson & Johnson's one shot vaccine!

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19 minutes ago, Ph3N0M said:

I saw somewhere that it is available to people above 45 with pre-existing conditions. I believe that a good portion of people that age in India would qualify under something common such as hypertension. That is how I'd try to get my parents to do it (if I can convince them) as they are not 60 quite yet. 

 

By the way, I have hypertension at 29 years of age, and got vaccinated (in the US) last Saturday! Johnson & Johnson's one shot vaccine!

My parents actually don't meet any of the pre-existing condition criteria. I think I would need a doctor's prescription stating something like Hypertension for them to get vaccinated.

But seeing how shipments of vaccines are going unused, Govt. should open up vaccination for all. I mean, if elderlies aren't turning up then atleast get the others vaccinated.

 

How are you feeling after the shot?

J&J's vaccine seems pretty good because its trials were run more recently (when variants started coming up) and it's one shot.

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1 hour ago, kunjanp said:

My parents actually don't meet any of the pre-existing condition criteria. I think I would need a doctor's prescription stating something like Hypertension for them to get vaccinated.

But seeing how shipments of vaccines are going unused, Govt. should open up vaccination for all. I mean, if elderlies aren't turning up then atleast get the others vaccinated.

 

How are you feeling after the shot?

J&J's vaccine seems pretty good because its trials were run more recently (when variants started coming up) and it's one shot.


hypertension alone isn’t on the list of preconditions...

angina associated with htn is...

this could vary from state to state ..

 

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9 hours ago, kunjanp said:

My parents actually don't meet any of the pre-existing condition criteria. I think I would need a doctor's prescription stating something like Hypertension for them to get vaccinated.

But seeing how shipments of vaccines are going unused, Govt. should open up vaccination for all. I mean, if elderlies aren't turning up then atleast get the others vaccinated.

 

How are you feeling after the shot?

J&J's vaccine seems pretty good because its trials were run more recently (when variants started coming up) and it's one shot.

I felt a bit tired the second day and somewhat more tired the third day (with soreness in legs and slight fever then). These were minor things though and I don't feel anything in that respect since then. 

 

Yeah, I really like J&J's vaccine because of their testing on variants and also because their volunteers apparently had a bigger ratio of people with pre-existing conditions. I had a choice to get Moderna's vaccine too if I waited a couple of days, but I chose to go ahead with J&J. 

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22 hours ago, Bhpian Bali said:

 

Maharashtra 18k out of total 28 k cases in India. Out of those 18k just Pune and Mumbai dist have 7500 to 8000 Cases. The ambulance movement like the one in september is back. Everytime I go out i see minimum two to three ambulances. Each and every time I kid you not. 

Pune and Mumbai needs a special vaccination policy at the earliest. Vaccination for anyone that has to go out of house otherwise such waves will keep on hitting us. Empirical data MAY suggest that previous hotspots are not the current hotspots but here we are with mumbai and pune posting even higher numbers. 

It reached 23k yesterday with Nagpur at 2698, Pune at 2612 and Mumbai at 2330.

Our society has cases in 10 apartments now and 3 buildings are going to be converted into containment zones for next 14 days. One of my friends in Pune who were going out on every weekend and even went for that Liam Neeson movie confirmed Covid positive yesterday. He lives with his parents :doh: What an absolute moron to endanger his parents.

 

 

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7 hours ago, Big Boss said:

It reached 23k yesterday with Nagpur at 2698, Pune at 2612 and Mumbai at 2330.

Our society has cases in 10 apartments now and 3 buildings are going to be converted into containment zones for next 14 days. One of my friends in Pune who were going out on every weekend and even went for that Liam Neeson movie confirmed Covid positive yesterday. He lives with his parents :doh: What an absolute moron to endanger his parents.

 

 

 

 

Govt never expected that the 2nd wave would be even worse for MH plus the cases kept falling. Everyone was relaxing and I still see people not even having a mask wrapped around their chin. I cant forget the scene on Valentine's day. The starbucks at Westend Mall Aundh was full and it is a compact one so people were less than 1 feet from each other. I couldnt help but compare our situation with Europe. 

 

The farm stir is going to wreak havoc in interior parts of punjab. 

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24 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

 

Nasbandi 2.0?

 

But how will antigen testing help?

Quarantine every person with a +ve result?

There will be hoards of people who have already recovered from COVID and now just test +ve for antigen and not PCR.

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2 minutes ago, kunjanp said:

But how will antigen testing help?

Quarantine every person with a +ve result?

There will be hoards of people who have already recovered from COVID and now just test +ve for antigen and not PCR.

 

They'll get to know how many people have already developed antibodies. 
Based on the results they can decide what to do next.

If majority of people have already developed antibodies, we dont need to be worried much. 

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1 minute ago, silentassassin said:

 

They'll get to know how many people have already developed antibodies. 
Based on the results they can decide what to do next.

If majority of people have already developed antibodies, we dont need to be worried much. 

 

 

For that sero survey is needed. 

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7 minutes ago, silentassassin said:

 

They'll get to know how many people have already developed antibodies. 
Based on the results they can decide what to do next.

If majority of people have already developed antibodies, we dont need to be worried much. 

That is not how it works.

They already have tons of data to model the spread with great degree of accuracy.

And what if the person who tests positive in antigen actually is under influence of COVID at that point? Will they take the risk of letting such potential spreaders go away?

It is either quarantine everyone or no one.

 

This seems like a lazy and illogical effort to contain the spread currently. At max, this can only deter people from going out.

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5 hours ago, radicaldude said:

Looks like the Chinese are testing a new vaccine on Pakistanis.


Spoiler - it failed. IMG_20210320_173937_580.jpg

 

A lot of people have tested positive after the 1st dose of other vaccines too. 

None of them have 100% efficacy, and hence it's expected. 

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5 hours ago, kunjanp said:

But how will antigen testing help?

Quarantine every person with a +ve result?

There will be hoards of people who have already recovered from COVID and now just test +ve for antigen and not PCR.


they are talking about doing an antigen test... and not an antibody test..

 

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It's ready bad in Maharashtra. Cases are increasing super fast. Lockdown in Nagpur extended till 31st. Daily 3500+ cases coming in Nagpur city and rural, despite having very less population compared to Mumbai and Pune. Pune also daily 3000 average, but no one cares because most patients are asymptomatic and are at home. But what if all these patients develop severe symptoms in next 5 days and require hospitalization? There was already news that oxygen supply is not sufficient in Maharashtra to support all current patients. It's a disaster waiting to happen.

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