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The Coronavirus Thread Part 2


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39 minutes ago, Right said:

 

Simple, GoI is not taking this call.

Just that you have an opinion about this, they have their own reasons/apprehensions about this.

You can hate them for it but this is what it is.
 

And personally I would've loved to have moderna here.

 

OK. File an RTI with DCI.

 

So you do agree that there are no sources, just plans built for chest thumping, not based on science or evidence and not for the benefit of the citizens ?

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

So you do agree that there are no sources, just plans built for chest thumping, not based on science or evidence and not for the benefit of the citizens ?

 

 Do you have any evidence to offer that it is not based on science and for chest thumping?

Works both ways.

 

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2 minutes ago, Right said:

 

 Do you have any evidence to offer that it is not based on science and for chest thumping?

Works both ways.

 

 

Not approving non home vaccinations ?

Playing petty politics over vaccine shortages ?

Ruling party, including PM organizing rallies in election states, with nary a thought for the voter who might die if he/she comes to that rally ? 

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14 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Not approving non home vaccinations ?

 

I would take BMC's word with a huge grain of salt. They state that buildings with more than 5 cases get sealed yet my own complex had more than a dozen cases spread across multiple flats (6-7) and no one came, no sanitization or anything. Even when my sister's report came positive some lady called and said local doctor will call her and suggest supportive medication since they were asymptomatic and no one called, I had to break home quarantine, visit my family physician and get the medicine. This is not due to the sudden spike too, I've posted in the same thread how they didn't give a sh*t last year too when the cases were relatively low and how they compared to Karnataka govt officials who were in touch when my father was infected. 

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2 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

I would take BMC's word with a huge grain of salt. They state that buildings with more than 5 cases get sealed yet my own complex had more than a dozen cases spread across multiple flats (6-7) and no one came, no sanitization or anything. Even when my sister's report came positive some lady called and said local doctor will call her and suggest supportive medication since they were asymptomatic and no one called, I had to break home quarantine, visit my family physician and get the medicine. This is not due to the sudden spike too, I've posted in the same thread how they didn't give a sh*t last year too when the cases were relatively low and how they compared to Karnataka govt officials who were in touch when my father was infected. 

 

I would say this is the case at most places ? 

Also, are apartments getting sealed or just placed under observation ? Here, in Noida, the DM announced that apartment with 5 cases will be places under observation (no sealing), full movement will be allowed. Only difference being a pre determined area around that apartment will be checked more frequently for COVID cases. 

Also, non home vaccinations are an issue as existing dosing isn't enough. Heck, @blitzkreiig hasn't developed any AB following vaccination with CShield. 

I know of at least 6 doctors who complained the same. One of them had his whole family vaccinated in Feb, and the whole family turned positive last week, and is admitted in Medanta. His mom's kidneys gave up (most likely AKI), and is under dialysis. The guy is a nephrologist (ironically). 

At least a heterogeneous group of vaccines will increase chances of herd immunity, while also giving an idea of what vaccines are evoking humoral AB production in Indians. 

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1 hour ago, KnackChap said:

While maha govt and centre are at loggerheads, the defacto CM says this. 

 

 

Yeh master aadmi hai. :rofl::majesty:

 

Master double-dholki. Priming for VP.

 

While he plays statesman, his ecosystem and chelas would be saying absolutely opposite.

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https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/ahmedabad/rt-pcr-negative-but-you-may-still-be-infected-by-coronavirus/articleshow/81957816.cms

 

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Doctors across the state are coming across an increasing number of cases where patients test negative in RT-PCR but their high-resolution CT (HRCT) reveals significant infection in the lungs.

The problem has become so acute that the Vadodara Municipal Corporation (VMC) has issued a notification stating that the current strain of Covid-19 does not necessarily show a positive test on RT-PCR but the insurance companies and third-party administrators (TPAs) should treat them as Covid. “In cases where RT-PCR is negative but findings in HRCT and lab investigations are suggestive of viral etiology,the claim should be treated as that of Covid unless proved otherwise,” states VMC’s order issued under the Epidemic Diseases Act
“I have come across patients who have tested negative in RT-PCR but their radiological tests revealed they require hospitalization. One patient’s score is 10 out of 25 in CT scan. This means that his lungs have already got affected,” said Dr Krutesh Shah, president of SETU, an Association of Private Hospitals of Vadodara.

 

Seeing this in Delhi too. 

 

HRCT is the only confirmatory diagnostic now. 

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44 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

So HRCT should be done in case of symptoms or not? Or is this just another way for labs to make money? 3 Rtpcr tests are negative for me. No symptoms. I don't want to go for HRCT and then catch corona from there.

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6 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

So HRCT should be done in case of symptoms or not? Or is this just another way for labs to make money? 3 Rtpcr tests are negative for me. No symptoms. I don't want to go for HRCT and then catch corona from there.

 

Don't take medical advice on the forum, bro. Check with your local physician. 

 

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/noida/vax-supplies-tight-in-ghaziabad-noida-as-many-complain-of-cancelled-slots/amp_articleshow/81960089.cms

 

@Right, supply is tight. 

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13 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Don't take medical advice on the forum, bro. Check with your local physician. 

 

https://m.timesofindia.com/city/noida/vax-supplies-tight-in-ghaziabad-noida-as-many-complain-of-cancelled-slots/amp_articleshow/81960089.cms

 

@Right, supply is tight. 

Local physician said to check oxygen level and do CT scan if needed.

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16 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:


aise Kaise..  Dr. Harsh Vardhan, Minister of Health and Family Welfare said it’s Not in shortage?

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2 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

I would say this is the case at most places ? 

Also, are apartments getting sealed or just placed under observation ? Here, in Noida, the DM announced that apartment with 5 cases will be places under observation (no sealing), full movement will be allowed. Only difference being a pre determined area around that apartment will be checked more frequently for COVID cases. 

Also, non home vaccinations are an issue as existing dosing isn't enough. Heck, @blitzkreiig hasn't developed any AB following vaccination with CShield. 

I know of at least 6 doctors who complained the same. One of them had his whole family vaccinated in Feb, and the whole family turned positive last week, and is admitted in Medanta. His mom's kidneys gave up (most likely AKI), and is under dialysis. The guy is a nephrologist (ironically). 

At least a heterogeneous group of vaccines will increase chances of herd immunity, while also giving an idea of what vaccines are evoking humoral AB production in Indians. 

So in such a case what should a person do?

Try to get Covaxin as well? Or wait for new ones?

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