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17 minutes ago, Right said:


Yes. I think that’s the protocol.

but w/o test how one could be sure that the person cannot infect others.

 

Isolate for 1 month. That's what my family did. No one knows when the person stops infecting others.

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3 hours ago, Bhpian Bali said:

Guys she is the same person who received a dick pic in her inbox. Called it a sanghi dick on twitter and shared it on her tl. Her followers pointed out that it is a circumcised dick. 

 

 

Sanghi dick can also be circumcised. Medical conditions. :mellow:

 

1 hour ago, achilles said:

Guys, hearing of more than a few cases where despite showing recovery, people are suddenly dropping SpO2 around the 10th day and are not making it. Young, fit people with no history of problems. 
What’s going on? 

 

Younger patients generally show asymptomatic or low symptoms till about 7 days. The pulmonary phase begins after 5/6 days. Hence 6-12 days are important to watch out for in younger chaps. In some cases the delayed immune reaction, causing dysregulation, can also kick in after 10 days or so. Such peeps will show hypoxia a bit late into the COVID journey. 

When delayed signs/symptoms appear, it is more often than not a poor prognosis (not everytime. Depends on the symptoms). 

I also developed low grade fever on D11 and D12 (never in the initial phase). Thankfully went away, else would have needed HRCT, steroids and then God knows what else. But now I get breathless while doing really simple jobs. Have to slowly start chest physio. 

No idea how much this f**king virus destroyed my lung function and capacity. :fever:

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2 hours ago, AtheK said:

No need for test again after recovery is what I know of.

 

38 minutes ago, Right said:


Yes. I think that’s the protocol.

but w/o test how one could be sure that the person cannot infect others.

 

 

20 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

Isolate for 1 month. That's what my family did. No one knows when the person stops infecting others.

 

Ideally, patients stop shedding at around D11-D14, so an RTPCR makes sense (we all are getting our PCRs done on D14). In some cases though, the viral debris might persist in mucosa, and thus they might come positive on the test. 

Sporadic reports show that critically ill patients can be positive and communicable till about 20 days, and there was one German (?) case report which had a severely immunocompromised patient positive till D140. Rare stuff. 

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30 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

Such a catch 22 situation. The govt has refused indemnity to Covishield and Covaxin. If they agree with Pfizer, they also have to indemnify other vaccine makers. 

 

I told you this before this will become the bone of contention.

 

The Pfizer cheerleaders are now saying that  indemnification can be sought to individuals if a sovereign indemnity cannot be given, which will be even bigger clusterf**k.

 

I mean, I don't see any average Indian signing a letter which says "pfizer will bear no responsibility for death or serious illness"

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^^^ Journalists and Columnists in India and almost everywhere think they know everything because they can comment on everything, and having an opinion on something is enough and knowledge of subject is secondary.
Vidya Krishnan who is "Health & Science Journalist" hasn't studied science after class 10th and has a Masters in African studies.

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30 minutes ago, Right said:

 

I told you this before this will become the bone of contention.

 

The Pfizer cheerleaders are now saying that  indemnification can be sought to individuals if a sovereign indemnity cannot be given, which will be even bigger clusterf**k.

 

I mean, I don't see any average Indian signing a letter which says "pfizer will bear no responsibility for death or serious illness"

 

You'll be surprised. 

One signs the same indemnification when going for a surgery. The current wave has made everyone tense. They want vaccines at whatever cost. Looking at the number of people vaccinated in western countries, I don't think people will have any issue in signing an official looking document before vaccination. 

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7 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

 

You'll be surprised. 

One signs the same indemnification when going for a surgery. The current wave has made everyone tense. They want vaccines at whatever cost. Looking at the number of people vaccinated in western countries, I don't think people will have any issue in signing an official looking document before vaccination. 

 

But still GoI cannot make the decision to pass it to individuals.


I think that indemnification should go. People should be able to sue doctors/hospitals if they feel that there has been mistreatment or other hanky-panky.

My late Mousa ji,  had his kidney stolen by a renowned surgeon in Jabalpur. He got to know a year later when he had another procedure.

He sued the hospital but couldn't see the case through. Last year, 8 years after his death when case was seem to be going mousaji's way, doctor made out of court settlement with my Mousi.

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3 minutes ago, Right said:

 

But still GoI cannot make the decision to pass it to individuals.


I think that indemnification should go. People should be able to sue doctors/hospitals if they feel that there has been mistreatment or other hanky-panky.

My late Mousa ji,  had his kidney stolen by a renowned surgeon in Jabalpur. He got to know a year later when he had another procedure.

He sued the hospital but couldn't see the case through. Last year, 8 years after his death when case was seem to be going mousaji's way, doctor made out of court settlement with my Mousi.

 

I'm not denying their rights, just saying that if this is a reality in all Western countries administering Pfizer, they won't change it for india. 

Right now we need them more than they need us. 

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