The Coronavirus Thread Part 2

[Right]

7 minutes ago, Krazyniks said:

There will be huge opposition to such a move as everyone would say only those who can afford to pay can get vaccinated . Those who don't want/cannot pay will be left behind .

 

Even those who don't want to get vaccinated right now due to doubts/ hesitancy (whether in rural areas/ cities ) will oppose this move . As not going for vaccination is their choice but if they are deprived of vaccines because others paid more than them will make them angry as hell .  

This is why socialism is hurting us. We are ok if everyone suffers and if some ppl can slid through corruption cracks.

But making something paid & transparent is not something we can accept...

 

And at the same time we allow reservation in vaccines like what is happening in CG now.

This country is getting fked because of mindless populism.

[Right]

1 hour ago, KnackChap said:

Even before the pandemic loads of indian millionaires were leaving india because of tax terrorism and govt treating wealth creators as chors. 

 

From 2019

 

https://www.businessinsider.in/why-indias-millionaires-are-leaving-india/articleshow/69321959.cms

 

 

5000 Millionaires Left India In 2018: Report

 

https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-5000-millionaires-left-india-in-2018-report/330251

 

 

So much for "ease of doing business" and "govt has no business to be in business" 

Quality of life is becoming shittier. 
And bring tax-paying rich is considered a sin.

This govt s also fkin useless that it is not able to crush these aholes.

[achilles]

1 hour ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

Which village ?

 

1 hour ago, Bhpian Bali said:

Which state and district?

 

Village Kabri, Haryana. 

Funny thing is, we've been trying every which way to find a vaccine, and then we get one like this. Glad that he got it though. He was being callous about it. 

[l33tmaniac]

1 hour ago, AnK said:

It’s not about lives 

it’s about the wastage that draws that line of thought 

 

every life saved is equally important 

but wasting vital commodity like vaccines at a time like this is foolish 

 

If they had used the vaccine to good use after taking it to villages I wouldn’t have made that comment 

 

but just playing petty politics & wasting it in that process is un fathomable at a time like this 

 

Don’t you think

 

The reason the vaccine is getting wasted is because of lack of awareness and hesitancy. A lot of folks including extremely well educated ones in T1 citites are hesitant to take the vaccine. How does holding the same standard to illiterate folks or people with limited exposure even make sense? Folks in the cities have seen Corona first hand for a fairly long time now to understand the importance of vaccines whereas this is the first time villages and smaller towns are getting hit badly.

 The issue here is lack of awareness. We should be talking about how to tackle that instead of passing judgement on lives of people who simply don't know better. By your logic, someone who is hesitant because of ignorance or fear deserves to not be saved because they are wasting vaccines. 

[l33tmaniac]

15 minutes ago, AnK said:

So work on spreading awareness & removing hesitancy along with step by step increase in supply in those areas,instead of just taking the vaccination where it will go into the garbage 

 

Give it to more knowledgeable & aware ppl at priority where it will save valuable lives 

 

Like it or not a high tax payer’s life is more valuable for the economy & even the rural India 

I know this is a blunt & unpleasant statement but in practical world it’s the truth 

 

By your logic it’s just fine to throw it away in garbage rather than giving it to someone who wants it & will feel safer going to work,earning money & paying his taxes so that the unaware in the rural parts can be educated enough one day to be more aware 

 

Dude. There are so many things wrong with the post above that I really dont want to pick it apart.

 

By your logic, the intrinsic worth of any individual is tied to money. So old folks and retired people who no longer pay taxes dont deserve to live? By extension of your logic, my opiniom should matter more and my life should matter more if I pay more taxes? You sound no better than our callous politicians.

 

How old are you, honestly? I never said its okay to throw away vaccines. All I said was don't pass judgement on other people's lives and talk about what needs to be done to not waste vaccines.

Edited May 27, 2021 by l33tmaniac

[l33tmaniac]

35 minutes ago, AnK said:

I wouldn’t have passed judgment if it was!! saving lives 

 

Something that’s going in the bin is not!! saving anyone’s life 

 

Is that so hard to get around?!?  

 

Its going in the bin and its an issue. I agree. 

 

I have an issue with the way you passed judgement on lives and tied it to money. So if I show you proof that I pay more taxes every year, does it give me the right to sh*t on you?

Edited May 27, 2021 by l33tmaniac

[l33tmaniac]

3 minutes ago, AnK said:

You are taking it into an entirely different tangent 

 

Where Rich & Poor are being treated in equals at a humane level 

which has no dispute 

 

 

But the scenario which I am talking about is a more practical one more to do with ground reality approach & how to end the toll on humanity as soon as possible 

 

Sadly your tangent will not change so no point talking practicality with you 

 

 

 

What toll on humanity? Every life matters. You can't choose to penalize people in the off chace that it gets wasted. And these people you choose to ignore would be most vulnerable cos they have been ignored/neglected repeatedly. It's like saying if a child doesn't eat food, you will throw it away cos it's getting wasted or someone else will be hungry. Even if the cost is that child dying.

 

I dont think I can make you see my point either. Lets drop it.

[l33tmaniac]

4 minutes ago, AnK said:

 

I see exactly this happening here 

it’s the “deprived” scenario that’s bringing in these comments 

 

 

So Scientific methods of ending the chain of transmissions as much as as possible & as soon as possible is probably going to take a back seat 

 

This not much different than reservations over merits 

 

Science & logic of promoting resource where it’ll flourish more goes back 

Ego takes centre stage 

 

And I see privilege talking here. 

 

Edit: And who is the scientist talking here? You?

Edited May 27, 2021 by l33tmaniac

[Jigsaw]

19 minutes ago, l33tmaniac said:

 

And I see privilege talking here. 

 

Edit: And who is the scientist talking here? You?

A little reference to Alien (79) in the immortal lines of Ash :

 

I admire it’s purity. A survivor. A perfectly disillusioned organism. It’s supreme lack of intelligence is matched only by it’s atrocious grammar and incorrect usage of “enter” ! & ?  

Unclouded by common sense, intellect and delusions of empathy. 

 

 

[silica]

1 hour ago, AnK said:

I hope these news pieces are allowed here 

if not will remove 

 

It’s very important to understand the situation at hand 

 

The actions of a few, do not represent everyone. There are ongoing efforts by government and private institutions (including our firm) at improving knowledge about vaccinations in rural and urban areas of the country.

 

Please remember that we have educated people, of which many who behave as callous and ignorant fools without a care for another human being.

 

@AnK all of us are in a privileged position, but do not take things for granted.

 

Where does the food you eat come from, who is toiling away in rural India but struggle to feed their own families?

 

If you are unsatisfied with the wastage in vaccines, as many of us hold the same view. Then go and do something to help people learn.

Edited May 27, 2021 by silica

[silica]

Since I started earning, every year I donate 20% of my pre-tax income to hospitals maintained by trusts which provide free healthcare (dialysis, surgery, etc.) and medication to people who cannot afford it. I have gotten many of my colleagues to donate what they can as well.

 

I know that the members of the trusts personally and there is no siphoning of funds from the trust.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

Edited May 27, 2021 by silica

[Right]

23 minutes ago, silica said:

Since I started earning, every year I donate 20% of my pre-tax income to hospitals maintained by trusts which provide free healthcare (dialysis, surgery, etc.) and medication to people who cannot afford it. I have gotten many of my colleagues to donate what they can as well.

 

I know that the members of the trusts personally and there is no siphoning of funds from the trust.

 

Actions speak louder than words.

Good on you, dude.

 

I myself have been trying to kickoff an Initiative from long time. That is providing footwears to Children who can not afford to. I have seen these hordes of kids walking with their teachers barefoot on school-trips, in so many places. I have a name for it and I hope I get to do that soon.

 

But pandemic has changed perspective about a lot of things. This country cannot and shouldn’t run on Khairat of people with money, who themselves are dying in hunt of hospital beds, oxygen and some drugs they are ready to pay 100x for.

 

This chutiyagiri of socialism and populist politics must end.Thoo on this culture of getting vaxxed at your residence in front of cameras, when ppl you preside over are rolling over and dying.

Edited May 27, 2021 by Right

[KunjanPSD]

I can't even comment.

 

[quixote_1989]

1 minute ago, KunjanPSD said:

I can't even comment.

 

 

Vaccine cocktail. Sound idea I must say.

[KunjanPSD]

4 minutes ago, quixote_1989 said:

 

Vaccine cocktail. Sound idea I must say.

They must be thinking ki "alag daaru milane se zyada jaldi chadti hai toh vaccine kyun nhi".

[Bhpian Bali]

Dunno where to put, over here or in joke's thread.

 

 

[Right]

 

Fking animals man.

 

[rushab oswal]

3 minutes ago, Right said:

 

Fking animals man.

 

Police education is an absoulte necessity now

[Right]

7 minutes ago, rushaboswal said:

Police education is an absoulte necessity now

Reforms, you mean.

[rushab oswal]

11 minutes ago, Right said:

Reforms, you mean.

Ah yes.  Poor English