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10 minutes ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

It's not "cured", it's the percentage of people developing antibodies to the virus (either to the cover or RNA). We don't know yet IF long term antibodies are possible against SARS-COV2. In all seriousness, they are unlikely. We get hit with flu every year even though the virus has been there for decades. Most of these viruses adapt and mutate rapidly, so long term immunity is something we can't rely on. Even the flu vaccine works on limited strains of viruses, not all. 

So herd immunity is not a good idea. 

What will eventually happen is that the virus will pass through so many bodies and mutate to such an extent that the virulence may decreases (like H1N1 and others). So you will still see sporadic outbreaks, but containment would be easy. Ultimately we need a drug against it. That's our biggest hope. I am not too wild on vaccines. 

I've read that the coronavirus is different from the flu virus in that it has memory and retains it's structure and doss not mutate a lot. 

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3 hours ago, adity said:

I've read that the coronavirus is different from the flu virus in that it has memory and retains it's structure and doss not mutate a lot. 

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1567134820301829

 

Already underwent 200 mutations. And this was months ago. 

Even indian data finds 3-4 differently mutated strains across all infections. 

It's a virus. It will undergo mutation.

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4800 cases in MH, 3400 in Delhi, 3500 in TN

TN is testing great, so they have a hope.

 

MH is sinking. It has reached NY levels.

 

Quite incredible that rest of India has just 5000 cases.

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Bird Bird Bird said:

It's not "cured", it's the percentage of people developing antibodies to the virus (either to the cover or RNA). We don't know yet IF long term antibodies are possible against SARS-COV2. In all seriousness, they are unlikely. We get hit with flu every year even though the virus has been there for decades. Most of these viruses adapt and mutate rapidly, so long term immunity is something we can't rely on. Even the flu vaccine works on limited strains of viruses, not all. 

So herd immunity is not a good idea. 

What will eventually happen is that the virus will pass through so many bodies and mutate to such an extent that the virulence may decreases (like H1N1 and others). So you will still see sporadic outbreaks, but containment would be easy. Ultimately we need a drug against it. That's our biggest hope. I am not too wild on vaccines. 

People are getting infected again after being cured back in March. Vaccine is out of question it seems.

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5 minutes ago, AnK said:

this is not an evidence 

it’s a claim 

she should show positive report of both months to make it valid 

 

If there would have been evidence of such infection relapse it would have shook the world by now
 

Not rare 

they are unheard/unproven as of date 

 

 

Only reported proven cases were testing negative one day to be counted in “cured” 

& then testing positive again in the next few days to suspected relapse 

which was then termed as not infected but floating of dead rna material in your system 

That moderns vaccine is supposed to go into third phase of human trials in July. Let's see what happens. 

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14 minutes ago, AnK said:

 

 

If there would have been evidence of such infection relapse it would have shook the world by now
 

 

 

Maybe not the same thing but this person relapsed: 

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/karnataka/recovered-patient-has-covid-19-relapse-in-belagavi/article31560900.ece

 

Here's WHO's statement on immunity.

https://www.who.int/news-room/commentaries/detail/immunity-passports-in-the-context-of-covid-19

 

Basically, "we dont know for sure yet, dont assume you're immune and become careless"

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2 minutes ago, AnK said:

Again 

as I said a claim is a claim 

 

But standing in front of the world with a test report which says positive & has date which is separated by month apart 

 

that would be evidence 

 

 

& Vaccine Developments would stop then & there if any such development comes into light 

it would change the whole dynamics of heard immunity as we know it today 

 

 

Even the oldest influenza Virus which we know as the common flu doesn’t repeat itself on the same human before say 6 months to a year 

 

this claim if proven right will roll back a lot of things 

I don't have the link to it but there have been a research or two proving that covid antibodies stay in the system for 8 weeks+. 

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One more woman got tested positive after 2 months. Doctor said she wasn't still infected and Covid test gave false positive. She is bed ridden since 9 weeks and has high BP and high heart rate.

 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/health/2020/06/24/woman-tests-positive-for-covid-19-twice-nr-baldwin-intv-vpx.cnn

 

This case is different than that WWE lady who worked after being recovered in March, let's see if she is able to back her claim.

 

And she quit twitter because internet trolls trolled her for not being cautious.

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alfredkonuwa/2020/06/25/kayla-braxton-quits-twitter-as-2nd-positive-covid-19-test-incites-cyberbullying/

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