The Coronavirus Thread Part 2

[North]

1 hour ago, KnackChap said:

You can buy a new one for 30k from retail Apple store and you  might get some additional discount + card offers. You can also try olx or cex

 

You can get as low as 25k for a new one if you buy with the HDFC offer from any apple authorized retailer.

Its most definitely worth it. I'm myself considering getting one later this year to replace my aging iPad.

 

[North]

2 hours ago, GunnerY2J said:

They would known something has been done if YouTube is not working on it for example.

 

A couple more years and they would want to play games in tab seeing other kids.

Also, not used.

 

Youtube also works on laptop.

Also when kids see other kids with iPads and playing games, they'll want one too. That is kind of why I bought my iPad, and my gaming consoles.

Get the iPad, its a good purchase for sure. 

 

Sorry, I know this is offtopic.

[KnackChap]

3 hours ago, Right said:

Doesn't look well for Pranab Da.

 

 

 

 

According to reports, He underwent brain surgery. Did they operate him after testing covid positive?

[Right]

56 minutes ago, KnackChap said:

 

According to reports, He underwent brain surgery. Did they operate him after testing covid positive?

Yeah. seems like he had a brain surgery 

 

 

[rushab oswal]

14 hours ago, KnackChap said:

Russia set to register world's first coronavirus vaccine on August 12; all you need to know

 

 

https://www.businesstoday.in/sectors/pharma/russia-set-to-register-world-first-coronavirus-vaccine-on-august-12-all-you-need-to-know/story/412455.html

 

Wasn't the sample size in phase 1 just 38 people? 

This vaccine looks like a Ponzi scheme to be honest. I heard they did not even properly conducted phase 3 trials. India will and should stay away from this sham of a vaccine.

[rushab oswal]

28 minutes ago, adity said:

They didn't even do phase 2 let alone phase 3.

Yes just saw that. It's funny how nobody isnt even talking about it and are ok with it. 

[rushab oswal]

Also can someone explain this?

Yesterday in my local newspaper an article stated that around 50lakhs people already have Covid antibodies (Which is they may have contracted the virus?) According to a serological test or something. How is that possible when total cases 5 lakhs?

[Big Boss]

7 minutes ago, rushaboswal said:

Also can someone explain this?

Yesterday in my local newspaper an article stated that around 50lakhs people already have Covid antibodies (Which is they may have contracted the virus?) According to a serological test or something. How is that possible when total cases 5 lakhs?

Because they are asymptomatic and never got tested or the test results of antibody tests are unreliable.

[Maximus]

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Edited August 11, 2020 by Maximus

[Right]

1 hour ago, rushaboswal said:

Also can someone explain this?

Yesterday in my local newspaper an article stated that around 50lakhs people already have Covid antibodies (Which is they may have contracted the virus?) According to a serological test or something. How is that possible when total cases 5 lakhs?

A lot of people were infected with Covid, they got cured with or w/o showing any symptoms and developed anti-bodies.

 

Dharavi Sero survey showed 25% ppl have anti-bodies. And this is why numbers there have dropped.

[rushab oswal]

1 hour ago, Big Boss said:

Because they are asymptomatic and never got tested or the test results of antibody tests are unreliable.

Probably first . The way people are acting the cases should have easily been 1 lakhs each day. they can be unreliable but then again if they were so unreliable they would have spent money on it. 

 

Just now, Right said:

A lot of people were infected with Covid, they got cured with or w/o showing any symptoms and developed anti-bodies.

 

Dharavi Sero survey showed 25% ppl have anti-bodies. And this is why numbers there have dropped.

Yes also delhi is now doing really really good. 

Now only thing is to c how many days this antibodies remain.

[Banz]

2 hours ago, rushaboswal said:

Also can someone explain this?

Yesterday in my local newspaper an article stated that around 50lakhs people already have Covid antibodies (Which is they may have contracted the virus?) According to a serological test or something. How is that possible when total cases 5 lakhs?

 

Case count is just a lower limit on how many people were actually infected. Only those that get tested (and the PCR tests work within a specific time period) get counted. In addition to the 80-85% asymptomatic cases, there are many people with mild/moderate symptoms who do not get tested because of misdiagnosis/fear/stigma. The estimates for the actual number of covid infected ends up being several times higher than the official case count.

At the end of March, it was estimated that there were between 16-28 lakh infected people in England. The total case count of the whole world at that time was a little over 7 lakh.

And the 2009 swine flu pandemic infected between 11-21% of the world population (so between 70-140 crores). The actual case counts never even came close to this number. It would have been impossible to even count in real time, and the same is true today.

After the Covid panemic ends, we will have better estimates of how many were truly infected.

[rushab oswal]

4 minutes ago, Banz said:

there are many people with mild/moderate symptoms who do not get tested because of misdiagnosis/fear/stigma.

This also happens because of conspiracy theories on social meda.

 

5 minutes ago, Banz said:

In addition to the 80-85% asymptomatic cases

Yes this is also the case. lot of people who had cough and fever in my know about just had regular medicines and were ok in a day. they can or cannot be covid +ve no sure way to say.

 

6 minutes ago, Banz said:

After the Covid panemic ends, we will have better estimates of how many were truly infected.

So does this mean those who got infected but cured without medicines have long term damage caused because of the virus ? Because good amount of study says even after recovering they are not at there 100% health.

[Right]

 

This looks very promising.

We are now adding ~8000 active cases per day compared to 12-15k a few weeks back.

And testing has touched 7L per day.

[Bhpian Bali]

32 minutes ago, rushaboswal said:

So does this mean those who got infected but cured without medicines have long term damage caused because of the virus ? Because good amount of study says even after recovering they are not at there 100% health.

 

Bro thats true for other types of flu as well. I had a bad flu last year. took me 20 to 25 days to recover. i couldnt walk the same distance i used to. it took me some time to regain that level as i used to start huffing and had weakness for a long time. this long term damage thing is getting highlighted only as covid 19 is the focus. 

 

1 minute ago, Right said:

 

 

This looks very promising.

We are now adding ~8000 active cases per day compared to 12-15k a few weeks back.

And testing has touched 7L per day.

 

 

i see this trend at all covid hotspots. first there is a massive outbreak and just when things start looking grim it starts to subside. 

 

People in italy, france and uk arent even trying to control if social media posts are to be believed. a lot of people are not even wearing a mask. 

Edited August 11, 2020 by Bhpian Bali

[Big Boss]

18 minutes ago, Right said:

 

This looks very promising.

We are now adding ~8000 active cases per day compared to 12-15k a few weeks back.

And testing has touched 7L per day.

How is it that when we have 65k cases, we have 50-55k recoveries, and we had 55k cases yesterday, and we had 42k odd recoveries. So how are these numbers so proportional? I was expecting recoveries to be more yesterday as new cases have decreased, but no, even the number of recoveries went down. Seems weird.

[Right]

20 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

How is it that when we have 65k cases, we have 50-55k recoveries, and we had 55k cases yesterday, and we had 42k odd recoveries. So how are these numbers so proportional? I was expecting recoveries to be more yesterday as new cases have decreased, but no, even the number of recoveries went down. Seems weird.

Recovery on given two days may or may not be in proportion to active case reported on those days, both are different phenomenons, hence a moving average on longer period is taken to compare. WoW or MoM basis.

 

Our Case/Positive rate is stagnating, but that is largely because testing has been increased drastically, so we may see 50-60lk cases for more days, but thanks to high case recovery, net new active cases per day will go down what previous graph showed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[dylanjosh]

30 minutes ago, Big Boss said:

How is it that when we have 65k cases, we have 50-55k recoveries, and we had 55k cases yesterday, and we had 42k odd recoveries. So how are these numbers so proportional? I was expecting recoveries to be more yesterday as new cases have decreased, but no, even the number of recoveries went down. Seems weird.

 

My friend who used to work at mantralaya (this was pre covid)  as in intern used to tell me how it was common to hear "sahab ko numbers pasand nahi hai" the implication being not to better policies but to "rearrange" numbers so it looks better. 

 

Won't be surprised if similar things are happening here. 

Edited August 11, 2020 by dylanjosh

[Big Boss]

1 minute ago, Right said:

Recovery on given two days may or may not be in proportion to active case reported on those days, both are different phenomenons, hence a moving average on longer period is taken to compare. WoW or MoM basis.

 

Our Case/Positive rate is stagnating, but that is largely because testing has been increased drastically, so we may see 50-60lk cases for more days, but thanks to high case recovery, net new active cases per day will go down what previous graph showed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes but recovery numbers should remain consistent right? How did the recovery number suddenly fall off from previous 2 days when new cases number also fell down? Recovery number should either keep on increasing or remain the same and should be independent of new cases, as recovery cases are from 10-14 days back. 

Maybe it's because of this:

 

1 minute ago, dylanjosh said:

 

My friend who used to work at mantralaya (this was pre covid)  as in intern used to tell me how it was common to hear "sahab ko numbers pasand nahi hai" the implication being not to better policies but to "rearrange" numbers so it looks better. 

 

Won't be surprised if similar things are happening here. 

 

[KnackChap]

So now that they're including the rapid tests in daily testing tally what do they do with people who were asymptomatic and have developed antibodies? Show them as recovered cases, count as positive with home quarantine or just ignore it?