playstationdude Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said: Coz if u cant access their games through Live, they will not allow it. On PS, all games MUST go through PSN not any other online portal. Same on Xbox consoles So what nonsense are they spitting about no exclusivity? They clearly want to bring people to their ecosystem. How is Sony the bad guy if they want their games to be within their ecosystem? Unlike windows OS Sony has to rely on consoles to maintain its ecosystem. Edited August 14, 2020 by playstationdude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, playstationdude said: So what nonsense are they spitting about no exclusivity? They clearly want to bring people to their ecosystem. How is Sony the bad guy if they want their games to be within their ecosystem? Unlike windows OS Sony has to rely on consoles to maintain its ecosystem. Windows is a free platform, it being free while not too arcane like Loonix is what made it successfuly on the consoomer/PC market side of things. MS Ecosystem on PC is basically windowz store and Xbox GP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, WhiteWolf said: Coz if u cant access their games through Live, they will not allow it. On PS, all games MUST go through PSN not any other online portal. Same on Xbox consoles Nintendo doesn't allow Live either but you can play Ori and even login through the game and get XBL achievements. Its a bullshit excuse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, adity said: He comes with the stupidest excuses. I had to log in to IO account on ps4 to access Hitman 1 content in Hitman 2. That is actually the best solution because then you don't have to worry about matching regions or disk/digital ownership to prove that you bought the game. Ubisoft does the same and so does Bethesda. Ownership across multiple regions and platforms, nobody's blocking that sh*t. The only reason MS doesn't put their games on PS is because they see them as direct competitor. Which is fine as long as you don't drink Spencer cool-aid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: Nintendo doesn't allow Live either but you can play Ori and even login through the game and get XBL achievements. Its a bullshit excuse. Wow! Didn't know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Right said: Wow! Didn't know this. You can get achievements in Ori, Cuphead and Minecraft by logging into your Live account on Switch. Heck you can login to your Live account through PS4 version of Minecraft and get cloud saves and cross-play MP etc. Sony has their own system of trophies so obviously you unlock those instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomShade Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: That is actually the best solution because then you don't have to worry about matching regions or disk/digital ownership to prove that you bought the game. Ubisoft does the same and so does Bethesda. Ownership across multiple regions and platforms, nobody's blocking that sh*t. The only reason MS doesn't put their games on PS is because they see them as direct competitor. Which is fine as long as you don't drink Spencer cool-aid. 51 minutes ago, CarbonCore said: You can get achievements in Ori, Cuphead and Minecraft by logging into your Live account on Switch. Heck you can login to your Live account through PS4 version of Minecraft and get cloud saves and cross-play MP etc. Sony has their own system of trophies so obviously you unlock those instead. Without Philly S bullshitting about muh inclusive and zodkesh doing mental gymnastics to defend that fail brand, would we ever know these facts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, CarbonCore said: Nintendo doesn't allow Live either but you can play Ori and even login through the game and get XBL achievements. Its a bullshit excuse. Ori not 1st party. MS don't own IP. They cant mandate live for Ori. Steam page of Ori uses all Steam features no live requirement. But Sea of thieves requires Live https://store.steampowered.com/app/1172620/Sea_of_Thieves/ Minecraft uses live on Nintendo. Its required to play Minecraft . Quote Do I Need Xbox Live on Nintendo Switch? Xbox Live isn’t necessary to enjoy the majority of video games on the Nintendo Switch, but an Xbox account is needed to play Minecraft due to so much of the game requiring online connectivity. Edited August 14, 2020 by WhiteWolf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 Another reason Sony wont allow is PSNNow. I mean MS will gain alot by putting XGP on PS4 but Sony won't allow as its competitor to PSN now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted August 14, 2020 Report Share Posted August 14, 2020 1 minute ago, adity said: You know at some point you have to just cut your losses, accept that you are wrong and move on with your life. Ori was published by Microsoft. They own that specific game. what the *bleep* are you trying to say. If im wrong post any source but afaik they just publisher but ip owned by Moon studios. Its same deal like Alan wake and Sunset overdrive. Also, Steam page of Ori doesn't say Live required but other MS owned IPs like Gears n all say it's required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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CarbonCore Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 Imagine buying turds like Compulsion Games but not the studio that made 2 of the 6 Xbox games on Metacritic's top 40 of the gen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteWolf Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 1 hour ago, CarbonCore said: Imagine buying turds like Compulsion Games but not the studio that made 2 of the 6 Xbox games on Metacritic's top 40 of the gen. There were rumours that MS interested in buying Moon studios and head of studios was also asked about it in an interview but he straight away said that Moon studios want to stay independent. Even Klobrille said it https://mobile.twitter.com/klobrille/status/1208468526002065408 Nothing can be done if studio wants to stay independent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playstationdude Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 9 hours ago, WhiteWolf said: If im wrong post any source but afaik they just publisher but ip owned by Moon studios. 3 hours ago, KnackChap said: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, adity said: You said MS doesn't own the game when it does. It's just basic common sense. The source is my non xbot brain. When someone publishes a game, they own it. That's how the world works. Publishing right is not ownership of IP. But yeah in case of Ori, MS owns the IP. If you have publishing right for a game but don't own the IP, the IP owner can make sequels and put on different platform but not that original game. Or make a remaster or a remake and call it that. For eg even though Insomniac owns SO, they can't put the game on PS4 without asking MS. They can however make sequels for PS4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRMNTR Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 23 hours ago, CarbonCore said: You can get achievements in Ori, Cuphead and Minecraft by logging into your Live account on Switch. Heck you can login to your Live account through PS4 version of Minecraft and get cloud saves and cross-play MP etc. Sony has their own system of trophies so obviously you unlock those instead. That's great to know! How do I do that for Cuphead? I don't see an option to link my XBL account. Is it only possible when launching Cuphead for the first time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarbonCore Posted August 15, 2020 Report Share Posted August 15, 2020 2 hours ago, -13- said: That's great to know! How do I do that for Cuphead? I don't see an option to link my XBL account. Is it only possible when launching Cuphead for the first time? Still waiting for patch since MDHR announced it lol. The in-game achievements are same so they should be retroactively applied. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 MS teasing fable gameplay reveal? OO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assassins Creed Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 9 minutes ago, Kazarka said: MS teasing fable gameplay reveal? OO It is Fable.. can look fwd to it because its Turn 10 studios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeda Posted June 1, 2023 Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 10 hours ago, Assassins Creed said: It is Fable.. can look fwd to it because its Turn 10 studios T10? PG is making it right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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